• Re: Trump says he's 'not

    From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Sat Jun 7 08:04:00 2025
    BTW, I was looking at a few of Vlad's requests in the peace talks and Z was pissed that Vlad called for Elections in Ukraine.

    It is difficult to hold elections when parts of your country are under the control of another country. Also a lot easier for that other country to
    meddle in your election.

    Same principle as how the illegal immigrants might interfere in ours.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Sat Jun 7 08:08:15 2025
    On 07 Jun 2025, Mike Powell said the following...

    It is difficult to hold elections when parts of your country are under
    the control of another country. Also a lot easier for that other
    country to meddle in your election.

    Same principle as how the illegal immigrants might interfere in ours.


    It's not. And ask for ID... Paper Ballots and no machines counting them.

    Problem solved.

    Vlad asked Z to hold elections as part of the peace talks....

    Z could have said... NO PROBLEM... we'll hold an election with in X amount of days after you keep your end of the deal up.

    You and Alex would not want the people of Ukraine to have their voices heard. They might support everything Z has done to date...

    OR... They could reject it.

    Your reasoning is that once someone you like gets power they can cancel election and drag the country into WWIII and the people have no say about what their leaders do because there MAY BE a chance that someone from Poland votes.

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  • From Alex Galiyev@1:129/14.1 to IB Joe on Sun Jun 8 04:03:10 2025
    Hello IB!

    Saturday June 07 2025 08:08, you wrote to Mike Powell:

    You and Alex would not want the people of Ukraine to have their voices heard. They might support everything Z has done to date...
    I can tell you what people in Ukraine are saying: They want Putin dead and Russia wiped from planet Earth.

    Why do you always blame Zelensky? The war started in 2014, Zelensky was elected in 2019.

    Alex

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Sun Jun 8 10:16:54 2025
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Headline today Z is asking for a ceasefire... looks like he's scared
    about Vlad's response.

    Based on Z-sky's history, he wants Russia to stop pounding him so he can recover, regroup and do another ceasefire violation.

    I don't think Vlad is going to go for it anymore.

    Looks like more will die before the talks restart.

    I'm trying to remember where I saw it, but the rumor is that Ukraine is losing more soldiers to desertion than death.

    BTW, I was looking at a few of Vlad's requests in the peace talks and Z was pissed that Vlad called for Elections in Ukraine.

    The problem here is that the current situation is the only good outcome for Z-sky. The only other alternatives is that Russia offs him, or there's peace - and elections and execution for Z-sky.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Jun 8 10:16:54 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Alex Galiyev <=-

    Do you think it's funny when 2 conservatives don't agree on something?
    I think it's funny how liberals are 100% in agreement with one another
    at all times. Nobody's allowed to think differently because if they do (and it has happened before) then they get banished from the Democrat Party (outcast at least.)

    It becomes clear which side is able to think. And which side is just part of a hivemind.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Sun Jun 8 10:16:54 2025
    IB Joe wrote to Alex Galiyev <=-

    No it's not falling apart... In the past few days we see Growth in the economy, past quarter, at ~ 5%. We have seen the US trade deficit
    shrink by over 50%, closer to 60%. Almost 10 Trillion in new
    investments for the economy... Also ~ 18 Billion dollars a day added to the treasury after a few months of Trumps new plan to spark the golden
    age of America.

    Don't use facts with Alex. He simply can't handle it.

    BTW, Elon has been diagnosed win/in the Spectrum of Autism... This
    might be normal for those that are autistic... It could also explain
    other bad decisions that Elon has made, soooooooooooo many babies with soooooooooo many baby mamas... And the fact that he used Windows and
    not Linux for PayPal.

    *Sigh* It looks like I need to cancel my PayPal account. I didn't realize that their systems were that insecure.


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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to Alex Galiyev on Mon Jun 9 06:39:50 2025
    Am 08 Jun 25 04:03:10 schrob Alex Galiyev an IB Joe zum Thema
    <Trump says he's 'not>

    I can tell you what people in Ukraine are saying: They want Putin dead
    and Russia wiped from planet Earth.

    And split it into new republics, none of which is going to give up their nuclear weapsons after what happened to Ukraine?



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  • From Alex Galiyev@1:129/14.1 to Gerhard Strangar on Mon Jun 9 01:03:18 2025
    Hello Gerhard!

    Monday June 09 2025 06:39, you wrote to me:

    I can tell you what people in Ukraine are saying: They want Putin
    dead and Russia wiped from planet Earth.
    And split it into new republics, none of which is going to give up
    their nuclear weapsons after what happened to Ukraine?
    Correct. Having nuclear weapons is the only guarantee that no one will invade your country. Ukraine gave theirs up after the UK, U.S., and Russia promised never to attack - and look where that led.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Mon Jun 9 07:32:23 2025
    On 08 Jun 2025, Ron L. said the following...


    The problem here is that the current situation is the only good outcome for Z-sky. The only other alternatives is that Russia offs him, or there's peace - and elections and execution for Z-sky.


    There was a lot to unpack and I chose this section.

    Z tried to assassinate Vlad a few weeks back, drone attack on Vlad's helicopter, I don't think Vlad has a short term memory problem or do I think he's forgiving.

    I was always hoping that there could be a peaceful end to the conflict but there seem to be people in the world who like conflict. Assholes like Lindsay Graham and or leaders of countries that are profiting off things or they like the distractions from their own failures, ie France.

    So, looks like there will be more strife in the region until people are willing to entertain peace.

    BTW, a thought just came to mind... I wonder if the Ukrainians will push back some day... There was a headline a few days back where Mayor of Kyiv insinuated that Z is starting to look like a dictator.

    So, maybe the citizens of Ukraine will stand up and push for peace talks to start.

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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to Alex Galiyev on Mon Jun 9 17:42:10 2025
    Am 09 Jun 25 01:03:18 schrob Alex Galiyev an Gerhard Strangar zum Thema <Trump says he's 'not>

    Correct. Having nuclear weapons is the only guarantee that no one will invade your country.

    How do you explain Iran's missile attack on Israel?

    Ukraine gave theirs up after the UK, U.S., and
    Russia promised never to attack

    They even promised to "seek immediate action" by the Security Council an case of an attack.



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  • From Alex Galiyev@1:129/14.1 to Gerhard Strangar on Mon Jun 9 17:17:44 2025
    Hello Gerhard!

    Monday June 09 2025 17:42, you wrote to me:

    Correct. Having nuclear weapons is the only guarantee that no one
    will invade your country.
    How do you explain Iran's missile attack on Israel?
    It's like India and Pakistan - neither invades the other, but they keep sending missiles back and forth.

    Alex

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Tue Jun 10 07:17:35 2025
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Z tried to assassinate Vlad a few weeks back, drone attack on Vlad's helicopter, I don't think Vlad has a short term memory problem or do I think he's forgiving.

    You got that right.

    I was always hoping that there could be a peaceful end to the conflict
    but there seem to be people in the world who like conflict. Assholes
    like Lindsay Graham and or leaders of countries that are profiting off things or they like the distractions from their own failures, ie
    France.

    As I've said before, peace is not in Z-sky's best interest. As a matter of fact, it's horrible for him since he'll lose his money, power and, probably, is life.

    So he'll listen to anyone, even Elitists like Graham, who will tell him how to keep the war grift going.

    So, looks like there will be more strife in the region until people are willing to entertain peace.

    IHMO: The only way there will be peace is if someone offs Z-sky.

    BTW, a thought just came to mind... I wonder if the Ukrainians will
    push back some day... There was a headline a few days back where Mayor
    of Kyiv insinuated that Z is starting to look like a dictator.

    "Starting"? He's looked like a dictator since Trump's first presidency.

    So, maybe the citizens of Ukraine will stand up and push for peace
    talks to start.

    I doubt it. They seem to be mostly just leaving. At some point, they won't have anyone to fight.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Tue Jun 10 09:32:47 2025
    On 10 Jun 2025, Ron L. said the following...


    So he'll listen to anyone, even Elitists like Graham, who will tell him how to keep the war grift going.


    I think Trump should have prosecuted Lindsay Graham under the Logan Act... but he needs his vote for the Big Beautiful Bill.

    After he gets that thing passed Trump should rescind Lindsay's endorsement and back the constitutional conservative who wants to primary him.


    IHMO: The only way there will be peace is if someone offs Z-sky.


    I think Z's days are numbered after his failed attempt on Vlad's life.


    I doubt it. They seem to be mostly just leaving. At some point, they won't have anyone to fight.


    At least the war will end.

    I wonder where they'll start the next one??

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Wed Jun 11 07:16:46 2025
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    After he gets that thing passed Trump should rescind Lindsay's
    endorsement and back the constitutional conservative who wants to
    primary him.

    I think that's going to happen without Trump's help.

    The Dems are on the wrong side to every issue that's important and their lies are broadcast for all to see.

    I think Z's days are numbered after his failed attempt on Vlad's life.

    Z-sky's days have been numbered for a long time now. That's why he's doing despirate things. But there's no way out for him.

    At least the war will end.

    I wonder where they'll start the next one??

    They keep trying the Middle East. But that's proving to be hard to do.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Wed Jun 11 07:59:44 2025
    On 11 Jun 2025, Ron L. said the following...


    I think that's going to happen without Trump's help.

    The Dems are on the wrong side to every issue that's important and their lies are broadcast for all to see.


    Lindsay is a political whore. His loyalties are directly tied to what way the political winds are blowing. He's locked into never-ending wars.

    Someone needs to do a deep dive into his finances to see if its a financial motivation or if he's trying to compensate for having a small penis... or maybe he's got daddy issues.

    It needs to be looked into.


    Z-sky's days have been numbered for a long time now. That's why he's doing despirate things. But there's no way out for him.


    This may be the only chance Ukrainians have for peace and prosperity.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Thu Jun 12 07:12:46 2025
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Someone needs to do a deep dive into his finances to see if its a financial motivation or if he's trying to compensate for having a small penis... or maybe he's got daddy issues.

    All millionaires in Congress need to be audited.

    Z-sky's days have been numbered for a long time now. That's why he's doing despirate things. But there's no way out for him.

    This may be the only chance Ukrainians have for peace and prosperity.

    Yup. If Vlad is smart, he'll do a "surgical strike" against Z-sky, then just say "OK, we're done. If you guys respect us, we'll respect you."


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Thu Jun 12 11:21:12 2025
    On 12 Jun 2025, Ron L. said the following...


    Yup. If Vlad is smart, he'll do a "surgical strike" against Z-sky, then just say "OK, we're done. If you guys respect us, we'll respect you."


    It looks like this may happen.

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