• one vote margin..

    From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to All on Sun May 11 06:20:00 2025

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/terrebone-recount-liberal-
    1.7532136


    "Quebec riding of Terrebonne flips to Liberals after recount
    shows candidate won by single vote"

    "On Wednesday, Chief Electoral Officer of Canada St‚phane
    Perrault announced the judicial recount after results showed
    incumbent Bloc Qu‚b‚cois MP Nathalie Sinclair-Desgagn‚ beat
    Liberal challenger Tatiana Auguste by 44 votes.

    "Now, Elections Canada's website shows Auguste received 23,352
    votes. Sinclair-Desgagn‚ received 23,351 votes.

    Apparently.. there are two other ridings getting recounts,
    according to the above article.

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  • From Awehttam@1:153/149 to August Abolins on Mon May 12 19:21:10 2025
    Re: one vote margin..
    By: August Abolins to All on Sun May 11 2025 06:20:00

    Found one to offset it!

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/elections-canada-investigating-terrebonne-1.7533228

    Liberals won Terrebonne, Que., riding by 1 vote but this woman's Bloc ballot wasn't counted.

    Block Quebecois voter's mail-in ballot was returned to sender after the election,
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  • From Rob Mccart@1:2320/105 to AUGUST ABOLINS on Tue May 13 01:32:00 2025
    "Quebec riding of Terrebonne flips to Liberals after recount
    >shows candidate won by single vote"

    Yes, it was sort of 'quietly' suggested that the original count
    might have been influenced by the people counting the ballots
    who would most likely want the French candidate to win, so the
    tiniest 'error' on the ballot, like using a check mark instead
    of an X, would have them tossing it if it was for Carney..
    But, in a recount, there are several people keeping an eye on
    things and any ballot that makes it obvious who the person wanted
    to vote for is counted rather than discarded.

    Apparently.. there are two other ridings getting recounts,
    >according to the above article.

    Yes, and if I heard correctly, neither of those can help the
    Carney Liberals. They already have the most votes there and
    any change from a recount would just lost them that seat
    rather than give them another one. So things won't change.
    Carney has his minority government, but so close he should be
    able to find a couple of people from other parties to back up
    most of the things he wants to do..

    The USA today greatly reduced the tariffs on China, and they
    lowered theirs in response for at least 90 days, which took
    a little of tension off of the markets since China sells the
    USA something like $600 Billion a year in goods.

    Trump also was given a $400 Million Jumbo Jet to use to replace
    Airforce One as a gift from Quatar which Trump said he'd be a
    fool not to accept.. ignoring that the US Constitution makes his
    accepting gifts like that totally illegal..

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ROB MCCART on Tue May 13 10:04:00 2025
    Trump also was given a $400 Million Jumbo Jet to use to replace
    Airforce One as a gift from Quatar which Trump said he'd be a
    fool not to accept.. ignoring that the US Constitution makes his
    accepting gifts like that totally illegal..

    And all the MAGAs will tell you it isn't a bribe or illegal gift because it will go to his Presidential Library after he is done with it. <rollseyes>


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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Rob Mccart on Tue May 13 19:37:00 2025
    Hello Rob!

    ** On Tuesday 13.05.25 - 01:32, Rob Mccart wrote to AUGUST ABOLINS:

    ...so the tiniest 'error' on the ballot, like using a
    check mark instead of an X, would have them tossing it if
    it was for Carney.. But, in a recount, there are several
    people keeping an eye on things and any ballot that makes
    it obvious who the person wanted to vote for is counted
    rather than discarded.

    I didn't realize there were multiple other ways to mark a
    ballot (apart from an X or a checkmark)

    https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?section=res&dir=loi/jud&document=p5&lang=e

    ..but the part about a completely filled circle seems to
    contradict section 5.1.3 ..in other words, a completely
    filled circle seems to be grounds for rejection.


    Apparently.. there are two other ridings getting recounts,
    according to the above article.


    The USA today greatly reduced the tariffs on China, and they
    lowered theirs in response for at least 90 days, which took
    a little of tension off of the markets since China sells the
    USA something like $600 Billion a year in goods.

    Yeah.. "reduced the tariffs" that shouldn't have been there in
    the first place. And now Trump is trying to sound like there is
    progress because "countries wanna make deals".

    I think this article explains what REALLY happened:

    https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2025/5/13/why-did-the-us-and- china-slash-tariffs-and-whats-next


    Trump also was given a $400 Million Jumbo Jet to use to
    replace Airforce One as a gift from Quatar which Trump
    said he'd be a fool not to accept.. ignoring that the US
    Constitution makes his accepting gifts like that totally
    illegal..

    Yeah.. it's blatantly opposite what the Constitution says about
    gifts from foreign countries. And even if he does get it
    approved, the Air Force still has to work on it which could
    take years not months. And.. I hope in the end, no one agrees
    to fill it up with fuel, in the name of national security, of
    course! :D
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  • From Rob Mccart@1:2320/105 to MIKE POWELL on Thu May 15 00:58:00 2025
    Trump also was given a $400 Million Jumbo Jet to use to replace
    >> Airforce One as a gift from Quatar which Trump said he'd be a
    >> fool not to accept.. ignoring that the US Constitution makes his
    >> accepting gifts like that totally illegal..

    And all the MAGAs will tell you it isn't a bribe or illegal gift because it
    >will go to his Presidential Library after he is done with it. <rollseyes>


    Right.. Somehow I think he'll find some use for it beyond the next few
    years while he is president before it gets put in mothballs..

    Of course, if he gets his way, he may be president for the next several decades.. B)

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  • From Rob Mccart@1:2320/105 to AUGUST ABOLINS on Thu May 15 01:15:00 2025
    ...so the tiniest 'error' on the ballot, like using a
    check mark instead of an X, would have them tossing it if
    it was for Carney.. But, in a recount, there are several
    people keeping an eye on things and any ballot that makes
    it obvious who the person wanted to vote for is counted
    rather than discarded.

    I didn't realize there were multiple other ways to mark a
    >ballot (apart from an X or a checkmark)

    ..but the part about a completely filled circle seems to
    >contradict section 5.1.3 ..in other words, a completely
    >filled circle seems to be grounds for rejection.

    Yes, I wasn't even sure if they accepted both a checkmark or X,
    but some might do something like circle the name or something.

    Apparently.. there are two other ridings getting recounts,
    >> according to the above article.

    Yes, but both are already Liberal so those can't help Carney
    to a Majority, possibly just lose him a seat or two.

    The USA today greatly reduced the tariffs on China, and they
    > RM> lowered theirs in response for at least 90 days, which took
    > RM> a little of tension off of the markets since China sells the
    > RM> USA something like $600 Billion a year in goods.

    Yeah.. "reduced the tariffs" that shouldn't have been there in
    >the first place. And now Trump is trying to sound like there is
    > progress because "countries wanna make deals".

    I think this article explains what REALLY happened:

    https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2025/5/13/why-did-the-us-and-
    >china-slash-tariffs-and-whats-next

    Yes, I had a quick read through that and it's not a big surprise.
    It's finally starting to dawn on Trump how much damage his
    policies are doing in his own country. Hopefully something similar
    will come about with Canada as well, although talk of a new North
    American Free Trade deal might be a work-around.

    Loblaws said today that they've had to increse the cost of over
    1000 food items so far and that number will surpass 6000 items
    in the next couple of months due to food tariffs..

    The biggest danger there is that they may take advantage to
    raise prices more than their costs go up.. It's like when Carbon
    taxes got added to fuel a lot of grocery items went up by many
    times what the increased fuel cost to move it would have justified.

    Trump also was given a $400 Million Jumbo Jet

    Yeah.. it's blatantly opposite what the Constitution says about
    >gifts from foreign countries. And even if he does get it
    >approved, the Air Force still has to work on it which could
    >take years not months.

    Yes but it will be the kewlest plane in his whole library... B)

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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Rob Mccart on Thu May 15 18:30:00 2025
    Hello Rob!

    Of course, if he gets his way, he may be president for the
    next several decades.. B)

    It the rules are clear that someone can't hold more than two
    terms, then that pretty much seals the deal. He can't get a
    3rd term if someone hands it over to him, for example.



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  • From Rob Mccart@1:2320/105 to AUGUST ABOLINS on Sat May 17 01:33:00 2025
    Hello August!

    Of course, if he gets his way, he may be president for the
    next several decades.. B)

    It the rules are clear that someone can't hold more than two
    >terms, then that pretty much seals the deal. He can't get a
    >3rd term if someone hands it over to him, for example.

    Yes, but he's been hard at work trying to change the Constitution so
    that he can have at least a Third term, and maybe more. It bugs the
    heck out of him I'm sure that our Prime Ministers can stay in power
    for as long as they can win elections, and I suspect he'd much rather
    be like Putin so he could just change the law to stay President forever
    and be able to assassinate anyone who wants to replace him.. B)

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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105 to Rob Mccart on Sun May 18 20:42:43 2025

    Hello August!

    >terms, then that pretty much seals the deal. He can't get a
    >3rd term if someone hands it over to him, for example.

    Yes, but he's been hard at work trying to change the Constitution so
    that he can have at least a Third term, and maybe more. It bugs the
    heck out of him I'm sure that our Prime Ministers can stay in power
    for as long as they can win elections, and I suspect he'd much rather
    be like Putin so he could just change the law to stay President forever
    and be able to assassinate anyone who wants to replace him.. B)

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    It was a shock to Trump the first presential term that he couldn't have his way with whatever he wanted
    Before then he bought and sold what he wished to do.

    As president he lesrned The House of Representatives and The Senate had their say too.
    He didn't pay anything , the majority of voters elected him(or The Electorial Board did).
    He hasn't realized that he is a servant of the people of the USA.

    It bothers me that he said we would 't have to vote anymore if he got elected the second term.
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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ED VANCE on Mon May 19 08:33:00 2025
    He hasn't realized that he is a servant of the people of the USA.

    That would be one of my biggest nits to pick with him.


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  • From Rob Mccart@1:2320/105 to ED VANCE on Tue May 20 01:15:00 2025
    >terms, then that pretty much seals the deal. He can't get a
    >> >3rd term if someone hands it over to him, for example.

    Yes, but he's been hard at work trying to change the Constitution so
    >> that he can have at least a Third term, and maybe more.

    It was a shock to Trump the first presential term that he couldn't have
    >his way with whatever he wanted
    >Before then he bought and sold what he wished to do.

    Yes, he always had that attitude that money is power, and maybe running
    for president he figured was the only way to get more power, only to
    find there were limits. He got around a lot of those when he declared
    a National State of Emergency (financial) which bypasses a lot of the
    annoying things like having to have the House and Senate vote on things.

    The advantage of a Financial State of Emergency is you can't say that
    it is suddenly over and end it. What he is saying he is doing - I'm not
    sure if he believes it or it's just the story he is spinning - would
    take decades to accomplish, and even his original declaration of
    Emergency was declared a fake emergency by at least 15 states.

    It bothers me that he said we would 't have to vote anymore if he
    >got elected the second term.

    Yes, I honestly think he looks at things that Putin did when he
    was elected President of Russia and thought he could do the same
    thing, throwing away the Constitution so he could do whatever he
    felt like doing.

    It will be interesting to see what follows after his term.
    Even if it's Republicans again, will they want to carry on with
    his ideas or would they try to do damage control?

    I'm not saying there was no room for improving America's situation
    but this is what things like Free Trade Agreements are for. It's
    damaging to financially attack the whole world at once, and whether
    his "Canada as the 51st State" thing is serious or not, he is doing
    a huge amount of potentially permanent damage to both of our
    economies by keeping on about it. We have traded like the best
    neighbours in the world for over 50 years to the point where our
    economies are dependant on each other and to end that relationship
    will cost both of our countries millions of jobs.

    There are no easy answers. Anyone who has been alive for more than
    60 years or so saw how prices dropped by often 75% or more when
    electronics started to be imported from Asia rather than making
    them in our own countries since they pay absolutely crap labour
    there and force their people to work 60 and 70 hours a week.
    I doubt many people would see the value of opening new plants in
    the USA if the things they make are too expensive to buy.

    The highest minimum wage in 31 provinces in China went up this
    year all the way to $370 a MONTH. The only way to compete with
    that in North America is if you build near fully automated plants,
    which means almost no new jobs created, so there's no big advantage
    to manufacturing them here.

    And a lot of people seem overlook that all tariffs do immediately
    is make things more expensive for Americans to buy, and that extra
    cost just goes into the pockets of the Government. You have to look
    at wide-spread Tariffs as what it is, a fairly substantial Tax you
    are paying to your government.

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  • From Rob Mccart@1:2320/105 to MIKE POWELL on Wed May 21 01:51:00 2025
    He hasn't realized that he is a servant of the people of the USA.

    That would be one of my biggest nits to pick with him.

    I think that's been a problem with a lot of Country leaders.
    They are in it for the power, not to serve the people..

    In a book many years ago, when referring to someone running for
    Prime Minister or President, etc. Arther C. Clarke stated:

    Anyone who deliberately aims at the job should be disqualified.

    He suggested that the People should choose who they think would
    be best at it and then talk them into taking the job..

    Granted that's a little tricky when you have populations in
    the millions. But Clarke was pretty clever. Long before wireless
    communication was much more than a dream he came up with the
    idea of a ring of Geostationary satellites orbiting the earth
    for communication in a paper he wrote for Wireless World in 1945.
    They actually refer to our band of satellites as the Clarke Belt
    to give him credit for the idea..

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ROB MCCART on Wed May 21 09:06:00 2025
    In a book many years ago, when referring to someone running for
    Prime Minister or President, etc. Arther C. Clarke stated:

    Anyone who deliberately aims at the job should be disqualified.

    He suggested that the People should choose who they think would
    be best at it and then talk them into taking the job..

    Yes, I do wonder about the motivation of people who deliberately aim at
    those jobs. Then again, I have suspected for a while now that those who
    might be honest/trustworthy enough really don't want to be President. ;)

    Mike


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  • From Rob Mccart@1:2320/105 to MIKE POWELL on Fri May 23 00:33:00 2025
    In a book many years ago, when referring to someone running for
    >> Prime Minister or President, etc. Arther C. Clarke stated:

    Anyone who deliberately aims at the job should be disqualified.

    Yes, I do wonder about the motivation of people who deliberately aim at
    >those jobs. Then again, I have suspected for a while now that those who
    >might be honest/trustworthy enough really don't want to be President. ;)

    Yes, in general most people with any chance to be President have to
    be wealthy to begin with - theoretically not required but almost
    impossible to accomplish otherwise - and then the job is normally
    very stressful and they make a lot less money doing it than they
    probably made in their other working options.

    About the only person the job isn't hard on would be one who enjoys
    the power and celebrity without really caring that much if they change
    anything or not..

    (IMHO) B)

    I hear that Trump Junior is kicking around the idea of running
    once the old man is out of the way... The legacy lives on.. B)

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Rob Mccart on Fri May 23 15:53:03 2025
    Yes, but he's been hard at work trying to change the Constitution so
    that he can have at least a Third term, and maybe more.

    Every male at one time in his life has experienced wet dreams ... but changing the US Constitution takes more than a decree ...

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.59 to Rob Mccart on Fri May 23 21:54:13 2025
    On 23 May 2025 00:33, you wrote to MIKE:

    - and then the job is normally
    very stressful and they make a lot less money doing it than they
    probably made in their other working options.

    Ah..but there are perks, for life: access to the gifts and resources in the presidential Library, and security guards for the rest of your life.

    I hear that Trump Junior is kicking around the idea of running
    once the old man is out of the way... The legacy lives on.. B)

    Haven't heard or read that anywhere myself, but I can see that move making sense. Jr is likely more articulate and suave than pops.

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  • From Rob Mccart@1:2320/105 to WARD DOSSCHE on Sun May 25 01:09:00 2025
    Yes, but he's been hard at work trying to change the Constitution so
    that he can have at least a Third term, and maybe more.

    Every male at one time in his life has experienced wet dreams ...
    >but changing the US Constitution takes more than a decree ...

    One hopes so.. Some people think Money rules the world.. B)

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  • From Rob Mccart@1:2320/105 to AUGUST ABOLINS on Sun May 25 01:14:00 2025
    - and then the job is normally
    very stressful and they make a lot less money doing it than they
    probably made in their other working options.

    Ah..but there are perks, for life: access to the gifts and resources
    >in the presidential Library, and security guards for the rest of your life.

    There's a chance he may Need that security... B)

    I hear that Trump Junior is kicking around the idea of running
    once the old man is out of the way... The legacy lives on.. B)

    Haven't heard or read that anywhere myself, but I can see that move
    >making sense Jr is likely more articulate and suave than pops.

    And maybe has less destructive ideas, although he got into some trouble
    for dealing with Russia a while back to try to get damaging info on
    Biden for the election for what that's worth..

    You never know how someone will work out until they are in the job.

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Rob Mccart on Mon May 26 13:28:28 2025
    Every male at one time in his life has experienced wet dreams ...
    but changing the US Constitution takes more than a decree ...

    One hopes so.. Some people think Money rules the world.. B)

    Oh, but it does.

    However, after noticing Chief Justice Roberts actually takes his job at heart, just as Justice Amy Coney Barret does not seem to playing along Trump's phantasies, a third term by decree (or for that matter changing the constitution) seems to be a small lightyear away still ...

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.59 to Rob Mccart on Mon May 26 20:46:37 2025
    On 25 May 2025 01:14, you wrote to AUGUST:

    Ah..but there are perks, for life: access to the gifts and resources
    in the presidential Library, and security guards for the rest of your life.

    There's a chance he may Need that security... B)

    I would be hilarious if airports refuse to refuel his Saudi plane after he leaves Office, citing national security concerns. :D


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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to August Abolins on Tue May 27 21:00:54 2025
    There's a chance he may Need that security... B)

    I would be hilarious if airports refuse to refuel his Saudi plane after
    he leaves Office, citing national security concerns. :D

    If he really gets to fly the plane after he leaves office. Remember, the Qataris want to get rid of it because it is too expensive to fly, and the orange-one may be rich but not compared to that Qatari-league. They had 4 similar planes and alreaady gave one to Turkey.
    And just for the record, it is even uncertain if that plane will even fly in US-service. It is not fit to be converted into a cargo-aircraft or a passenger plane (which is why the Qataris can't fnd a buyer) plus it has not got enough power generating capacity to run the electroniscs that will be brought on board. I'm not talking the anti-terrorism stuff, just the basic things like communications and other electronics to run the country.

    The aircraft, before beings able to be used by the President, will need to be seriously stripped-down and then rebuilt. Chances are the 2 other 747-8s will be finished first anyway.

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  • From Rob Mccart@1:2320/105 to WARD DOSSCHE on Wed May 28 01:15:00 2025
    However, after noticing Chief Justice Roberts actually takes his job at heart
    >ust as Justice Amy Coney Barret does not seem to playing along Trump's phanta
    >s, a third term by decree (or for that matter changing the constitution) seem
    >o be a small lightyear away still ...

    Funny, I was just talking about that the other day and it struck me
    that, one of the reasons Trump can do so much without opposition is
    because he declared an National Emergency (financial) which gives
    him a lot more powers than a President usually has, and it might be
    possible for him to EXTEND his 4 year term, the way Presidents have
    in the past during a Wartime Emergency.. Scary thought since he could
    probably say there was a financial emergency for decades to come.. B(

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  • From Rob Mccart@1:2320/105 to AUGUST ABOLINS on Wed May 28 01:19:00 2025
    I would be hilarious if airports refuse to refuel his Saudi plane after
    >he leaves Office, citing national security concerns. :D

    I'm still waiting to see what happens when he wants to come to Canada
    for the G8 Meeting in Alberta this year since we don't allow convicted
    felons to enter the country.. B)

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to WARD DOSSCHE on Wed May 28 08:45:00 2025
    The aircraft, before beings able to be used by the President, will need to be >seriously stripped-down and then rebuilt. Chances are the 2 other 747-8s will >be finished first anyway.

    I suspect the reason he likes it is that it is big and full of shiney crap.
    He won't like it once all that is stripped out of it.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ROB MCCART on Wed May 28 08:46:00 2025
    possible for him to EXTEND his 4 year term, the way Presidents have
    in the past during a Wartime Emergency.. Scary thought since he could probably say there was a financial emergency for decades to come.. B(

    To my knowledge, no US President has ever done this. FDR was voted in
    four times, but that was before the 2-term limit was added.


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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Rob Mccart on Wed May 28 19:38:00 2025
    Hello Rob!

    ...one of the reasons Trump can do so much without
    opposition is because he declared an National Emergency
    (financial) which gives him a lot more powers than a
    President usually has, and it might be possible for him to
    EXTEND his 4 year term, the way Presidents have in the
    past during a Wartime Emergency.. Scary thought since he
    could probably say there was a financial emergency for
    decades to come.. B(

    Surely, that validity of the "emergency" would need to be
    tested in the courts, or by congress or senate, no?

    The current turmoil of the economies/trade has been of his own
    making.
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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Ward Dossche on Wed May 28 22:27:00 2025
    Hello Ward!

    ** On Tuesday 27.05.25 - 21:00, Ward Dossche wrote to August Abolins:

    ... Remember, the Qataris want to get rid of it because it
    is too expensive to fly,

    I was not aware of that take on it.


    ..and the orange-one may be rich but not compared to that
    Qatari-league.

    ..but he's bound to profit from the new buildings and golf
    courses he's planting in Qatar, no?


    ..It is not fit to be converted into a cargo-aircraft or a
    passenger plane (which is why the Qataris can't fnd a
    buyer)

    I did not hear that that there were no actual buyers for it.


    ..plus it has not got enough power generating capacity to
    run the electroniscs that will be brought on board. I'm
    not talking the anti-terrorism stuff, just the basic
    things like communications and other electronics to run
    the country.

    If the plane is just a false appeasement of some kind (most
    have used the term "bribe" - for something) then those
    technical issues will surely be a let down for Trump.


    The aircraft, before beings able to be used by the
    President, will need to be seriously stripped-down and
    then rebuilt. Chances are the 2 other 747-8s will be
    finished first anyway.

    Right.. the other two are well ahead of the conversions and
    fittings. Dunno how Trump thinks this new one will get ahead
    of the line and finished before his term is over.



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  • From August Abolins@1:396/45.29 to Rob Mccart on Wed May 28 19:52:00 2025
    Hello Rob!

    ** On Wednesday 28.05.25 - 01:19, Rob Mccart wrote to AUGUST ABOLINS:

    I would be hilarious if airports refuse to refuel his
    Saudi plane after he leaves Office, citing national
    security concerns. :D

    I'm still waiting to see what happens when he wants to
    come to Canada for the G8 Meeting in Alberta this year
    since we don't allow convicted felons to enter the
    country.. B)

    Good point! That will surely be an awkward moment.

    --
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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to August Abolins on Thu May 29 13:16:44 2025
    August,

    ... Remember, the Qataris want to get rid of it because it
    is too expensive to fly,

    I was not aware of that take on it.

    They had 4. One has been given away to Turkey and thisone, 12yr old, they've been trying to sell it for years (just as the other remaining 2). There's just no demand for it.

    ..and the orange-one may be rich but not compared to that
    Qatari-league.

    ..but he's bound to profit from the new buildings and golf
    courses he's planting in Qatar, no?

    Abu-Dhabi, Qatar, the Emirates, Saudi-Arabia have humongous plans for diversifying into tourism by the time oil runs out. Personally I think it's a bubble, thought of by people with too much money, which at one time will collapse. I don't plan to spend a penny into any of these totalitarian regimes with a blatant disregard for human rights and the role of females in our societies.

    Plus that aircraft is fast nearing a D-check in a few hundred more flying hours ... meaning it gets taken completely apart and then gets re-assembled. Takes like 4 months and costs a fortune ...

    \%/@rd

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  • From Rob Mccart@1:2320/105 to WARD DOSSCHE on Thu May 29 01:08:00 2025
    If he really gets to fly the plane after he leaves office. Remember, the Qata
    > want to get rid of it because it is too expensive to fly, and the orange-one
    >y be rich but not compared to that Qatari-league. They had 4 similar planes a
    >alreaady gave one to Turkey.

    Isn't it supposed to end up in the Trump Library after his term?
    That should take up a bit of room.. Fewer books.. B)

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AUGUST ABOLINS on Thu May 29 08:36:00 2025
    Surely, that validity of the "emergency" would need to be
    tested in the courts, or by congress or senate, no?

    IIRC, congress either ultimately allowed it, or has not gone through the official motions to disallow it.


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  • From Rob Mccart@1:2320/105 to MIKE POWELL on Fri May 30 02:02:00 2025
    possible for him to EXTEND his 4 year term, the way Presidents have
    >> in the past during a Wartime Emergency.. Scary thought since he could
    >> probably say there was a financial emergency for decades to come.. B(

    To my knowledge, no US President has ever done this. FDR was voted in
    >four times, but that was before the 2-term limit was added.

    My mistake then.. I know other countries have had that situation,
    I'm sure it has in Britain but, as in Canada, that would be just
    postponing the next election and since you can stay in office for
    as long as you can win elections here so it's less (?) serious?..

    That said, we have a lot of elections Early, in under 4 years.
    Get re-elected fast while you are still popular.. B)

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  • From Rob Mccart@1:2320/105 to AUGUST ABOLINS on Fri May 30 02:11:00 2025
    ...one of the reasons Trump can do so much without
    opposition is because he declared an National Emergency
    (financial) which gives him a lot more powers than a
    President usually has

    Surely, that validity of the "emergency" would need to be
    >tested in the courts, or by congress or senate, no?

    You'd think so, at least within a short period of time.. but
    Trump has a Lot of his recent activities being judged illegal
    in court, including almost all of the tariffs and his rapid
    changes in immigration policies. He was ordered to end almost
    all of that within the next 10 days but he is taking it to the
    Supreme court to fight it instead..

    He complained about how the judges who have decided that were
    unelected hacks who should lose their jobs, but it turns out
    quite a few of them were Republican Judges, and one who found
    against him was actually appointed BY Trump..

    The current turmoil of the economies/trade has been of his own
    >making.

    They were spending money way too fast in recent years, as have
    we been in Canada, and getting further and further in debt so
    the idea to improve on that wasn't all bad. He just went on it
    the wrong way.. Everything can be fixed with a nail when the
    only tool you have is a big hammer.. B)

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  • From Rob Mccart@1:2320/105 to AUGUST ABOLINS on Fri May 30 02:14:00 2025
    I'm still waiting to see what happens when he wants to
    come to Canada for the G8 Meeting in Alberta this year
    since we don't allow convicted felons to enter the
    country.. B)

    Good point! That will surely be an awkward moment.

    Yes, although I'm suire they will ignore that. If they did try to
    enforce it, he'd probably show up anyways with half the US Army.. B)

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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105 to Mike Powell on Sat May 31 15:18:21 2025
    To my knowledge, no US President has ever done this. FDR was voted in
    four times, but that was before the 2-term limit was added.

    * SLMR 2.1a * Why yes, I -do- work for a unit of the Illuminati.


    Recently I read a Wikipedia page about Presidency of George Washington.
    After His second term He said that He would not be a candidate for a third term.
    Ed
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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ED VANCE on Sat May 31 16:15:00 2025
    To my knowledge, no US President has ever done this. FDR was voted in
    four times, but that was before the 2-term limit was added.

    Recently I read a Wikipedia page about Presidency of George Washington.
    After His second term He said that He would not be a candidate for a third term.

    Yes. Supposedly, he was concerned that people could get re-elected
    repeatedly and be "like a King," which was something they had just gotten
    rid of. ;)

    Mike


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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105 to Mike Powell on Mon Jun 2 09:59:39 2025


    Yes. Supposedly, he was concerned that people could get re-elected repeatedly and be "like a King," which was something they had just gotten
    rid of. ;)

    Mike

    * SLMR 2.1a * I was a tall person before I used PKZIP...!


    YEP!!!!!!!!
    Ed
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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Rob Mccart on Tue Jun 3 13:19:55 2025
    Isn't it supposed to end up in the Trump Library after his term?
    That should take up a bit of room.. Fewer books.. B)

    The way I understand it, the plane is donated to the US military. Not to Trump, though it could be considered a technicality.

    Once I visited the Nixon library at Yorba Linda. They have a presidential helicopter sitting there and one of the 707's which functioned as Air Force One in those days. It takes up a lot of space ... and for what?

    The thing is, even when stored outside just as a display, the maintenance costs a fortune...for what?

    \%/@rd

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  • From Rob Mccart@1:2320/105 to WARD DOSSCHE on Thu Jun 5 01:14:00 2025
    Isn't it supposed to end up in the Trump Library after his term?
    That should take up a bit of room.. Fewer books.. B)

    The way I understand it, the plane is donated to the US military. Not to Trum
    >though it could be considered a technicality.

    Yes, he suddenly started pointing that out when the irregularity of
    him accepting it as a gift was coming out.

    Once I visited the Nixon library at Yorba Linda. They have a presidential hel
    >pter sitting there and one of the 707's which functioned as Air Force One in
    >se days. It takes up a lot of space ... and for what?

    The thing is, even when stored outside just as a display, the maintenance cos
    >a fortune...for what?

    Yes, it does seem like those places hold a lot more than necessary
    to remember past presidents and, knowing Trump, he will probably want
    his to be the biggest and baddest of the bunch.. B)

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