Hi Dave,

She is somewhat of a baker. Top oven is actually a microwave. Main complaint about the regular ove is that it takes a long time to preheat and baking takes longer than usual time for most things.

All ovens are different. The oven on my current stove heats to about
340º on a setting of 350º. So, I boost the dial a bit until my instant-read tells me to temp is proper.

That's why, early on, we bought the first in a number of oven
thermometers. They were quite handy as we moved from place to place, not knowing initially how accurate the dial was. In one place (pre Army),
the markings had all worn off the dial so it was quite the guessing game
until we got the thermometer in and were able to do basic marks on the
dial.

meal, with a lot of meat still on it (she didn't like dealing with leftovers). I asked if I could take the carcasse home with us (we'd brought up a cooler with pumkin pies and other goodies in it), got it
and made soup with it.

Sounds like something I'd do. My local GFS is selling rotisserie
chickens for U$3 each. I save the carcasses after stripping the meaat. Makes some very nice stock ... and inexpensive.

I do that also with the rotisserie chickens we get.


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Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

She is somewhat of a baker. Top oven is actually a microwave. Main complaint about the regular ove is that it takes a long time to preheat and baking takes longer than usual time for most things.

All ovens are different. The oven on my current stove heats to about
340§ on a setting of 350§. So, I boost the dial a bit until my instant-read tells me to temp is proper.

That's why, early on, we bought the first in a number of oven thermometers. They were quite handy as we moved from place to place,
not knowing initially how accurate the dial was. In one place (pre
Army), the markings had all worn off the dial so it was quite the
guessing game until we got the thermometer in and were able to do basic marks on the dial.

I've an assortment of oven dial thermemeters and instant read style instruments. As well as a couple of dial thermometers I keep in the
freezer(s).

One time, as a chilli cook-off we fot sa new health minspector who
was probably a bit "exercised" over having to work on a nice Sunday
afternoon. First she ragged on me about not having a dish-washing
set-up. And I told her "I don't re-use my pots and pans. I take them
home and wash up in my kitchen sink. Then she wanted to check my
thermometer. When I told her I hadn't brought onw she swelled up and
asked "How do you know your chilli is at least 180 degrees?"

So, I asked her "What temperature does water boil at?" mthen lifted
the lid on my chilli pot to show I was holding a 5 bubble simmer. Bv)=

meal, with a lot of meat still on it (she didn't like dealing with leftovers). I asked if I could take the carcasse home with us (we'd brought up a cooler with pumkin pies and other goodies in it), got it
and made soup with it.

Sounds like something I'd do. My local GFS is selling rotisserie
chickens for U$3 each. I save the carcasses after stripping the meaat. Makes some very nice stock ... and inexpensive.

I do that also with the rotisserie chickens we get.

One of the few things that smarty-pants Bobby Flay got right:

MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

Title: Rich Chicken Stock
Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Herbs
Yield: 3 Pints

4 lb Chicken bones; chopped
3 lg Yellow sweet onions; skin
- on, quartered
1/2 Stalk celery; ribs and
- leaves, coarse chopped
2 lg Carrots; unpeeled, coarse
- chopped
3 tb Olive oil
Salt & fresh ground pepper
2 Bay leaves
1/4 c Whole black peppercorns
1 sm Bunch flat-leaf parsley;
- stems only
6 Sprigs fresh thyme
+=OR-_
3/4 ts Dried thyme

Recipe courtesy of Bobby Flay

Set oven @ 450ºF/232ºC.

Combine chicken bones, onions, celery, and carrots in a
large roasting pan; toss with oil and season lightly
with salt and pepper. Roast until the bones and
vegetables are a rich golden brown, about 30 to 40
minutes.

Transfer the bones and vegetables to a large stockpot,
add 12 cups cold water, and the remaining ingredients
and bring to a boil over high heat. Reduce the heat to
medium and simmer for 4 hours, skimming the scum that
rises to the top with a ladle every 20 minutes. Remove
from the heat and strain through a mesh strainer into a
clean pot. Place back on the stove over high heat and
cook until reduced by half. Use immediately or let cool
to room temperature, cover, and refrigerate or freeze
until ready to use.

UDD NOTE: I save the skin from the chicken and use it
to add to the stock after straining the vegetables out.
Put the skin fragments in your blender and add enough
of the liquid from the pot to allow it to puree. Add
the result back to the stockpot. Your taste buds will
thank you.

RECIPE FROM: https://www.foodnetwork.com

Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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Hi Dave,

All ovens are different. The oven on my current stove heats to about
340§ on a setting of 350§. So, I boost the dial a bit until my instant-read tells me to temp is proper.

That's why, early on, we bought the first in a number of oven thermometers. They were quite handy as we moved from place to place,
not knowing initially how accurate the dial was. In one place (pre
Army), the markings had all worn off the dial so it was quite the

I've an assortment of oven dial thermemeters and instant read style instruments. As well as a couple of dial thermometers I keep in the freezer(s).

I keep one each in th fridge freezer and the free standing one. Plus we
have one in the camper fridge. As with the ovens, fridges and freezers
differed widely in the various places we lived so we learned early on to
have a thermometer in them.

One time, as a chilli cook-off we fot sa new health minspector who
was probably a bit "exercised" over having to work on a nice Sunday afternoon. First she ragged on me about not having a dish-washing
set-up. And I told her "I don't re-use my pots and pans. I take them
home and wash up in my kitchen sink. Then she wanted to check my thermometer. When I told her I hadn't brought onw she swelled up and
asked "How do you know your chilli is at least 180 degrees?"

So, I asked her "What temperature does water boil at?" mthen lifted
the lid on my chilli pot to show I was holding a 5 bubble simmer.
Bv)=

Got the point across quick and easy without (too much) insult.

meal, with a lot of meat still on it (she didn't like dealing with leftovers). I asked if I could take the carcasse home with us (we'd brought up a cooler with pumkin pies and other goodies in it), got it
and made soup with it.

Sounds like something I'd do. My local GFS is selling rotisserie
chickens for U$3 each. I save the carcasses after stripping the meaat. Makes some very nice stock ... and inexpensive.

I do that also with the rotisserie chickens we get.

One of the few things that smarty-pants Bobby Flay got right:

Title: Rich Chicken Stock
Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Herbs
Yield: 3 Pints

I just use water, a bit of salt and Bragg's Seasoning for making stock.
Then after I debone the bird, I'll add some turmeric.

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Catch you later,
Ruth
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Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

One time, as a chilli cook-off we fot sa new health minspector who
was probably a bit "exercised" over having to work on a nice Sunday afternoon. First she ragged on me about not having a dish-washing
set-up. And I told her "I don't re-use my pots and pans. I take them
home and wash up in my kitchen sink. Then she wanted to check my thermometer. When I told her I hadn't brought onw she swelled up and
asked "How do you know your chilli is at least 180 degrees?"

So, I asked her "What temperature does water boil at?" mthen lifted
the lid on my chilli pot to show I was holding a 5 bubble simmer.
Bv)=

Got the point across quick and easy without (too much) insult.

Too mant bureaucraps focus more on the wording than on the intent of regulations.

meal, with a lot of meat still on it (she didn't like dealing with leftovers). I asked if I could take the carcasse home with us (we'd brought up a cooler with pumkin pies and other goodies in it), got it
and made soup with it.

Sounds like something I'd do. My local GFS is selling rotisserie
chickens for U$3 each. I save the carcasses after stripping the meaat. Makes some very nice stock ... and inexpensive.

I do that also with the rotisserie chickens we get.

One of the few things that smarty-pants Bobby Flay got right:

Title: Rich Chicken Stock
Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Herbs
Yield: 3 Pints

I just use water, a bit of salt and Bragg's Seasoning for making stock. Then after I debone the bird, I'll add some turmeric.

We all have our ways of getting it done. But, I've *always* used veggies
as a part of my stock making ... be it poultry of beef/pork/etc.

A free and easy addition to this stock is to bung in any celery leaves
youmay have hanging about. I've never canned this - just jarred it in
old mayonnaise (or similar) jars and refigerated it for up to a month
or so.

MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

Title: Homemade Beef Stock
Categories: Beef vegeta, Herbs
Yield: 6 Quarts

10 lb Meaty beef bones; shanks or
- ribs, or a combination
5 lg Shallots; halved
4 Garlic cloves; halved
4 c Rough chopped carrots
1 lg Celeriac; chopped in large
- pieces
3 tb Tomato paste
1 tb Olive oil
5 qt Cool non-chlorinated water *
12 Black peppercorns
3 Dried bay leaves
12 Parsley stems

* You can let tap water sit in an open contasiner
overnight to let the chlorine "out gas" and turn into
"non-chlorinated" water. -- UDD

Set the oven @ 425oF/218oC.

Line a baking sheet with parchment.

Put the bones, shallots, garlic, carrots, and celeriac
on the baking sheet.

Combine the tomato paste and oil in a small bowl, then
rub all over the bones and vegetables. Spread the bones
and vegetables out and roast until well browned, about
40 minutes; rotate the pan halfway through.

Transfer the roasted bones, vegetables, and any juices
to a large stockpot. Add 1/4 cup of the water to the
baking sheet to loosen any tasty bits and scrape this
fond into the stockpot.

Add the peppercorns, bay leaves, and stems to the pot,
add the remaining water, and bring to a boil.

Reduce the heat, skim any foam, cover, and simmer gently
for 6 hours.

Strain the stock through a colander into large bowls or
jars. Refrigerate overnight.

Scrape the solidified fat from the stock and discard.
Strain the stock through a fine sieve into the stockpot
and bring to a boil.

Ladle into the clean jars. Wipe the jar rims clean with
white vinegar. Place the lids and rings on the jars and
finger-tighten the rings.

Process at 10 pounds of pressure: pint jars for 20
minutes, quart jars for 25 minutes. If you have a mixed
batch, process for the full 25 minutes. Let the pressure
fall and the canner cool before removing the jars.

Let the jars cool completely, then test the seal.

The stock is shelf stable for 1 year.

By Cathy Barrow

Makes: 6 quarts

RECIPE FROM: https://www.motherearthnews.com

Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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Hi Dave,

home and wash up in my kitchen sink. Then she wanted to check my thermometer. When I told her I hadn't brought onw she swelled up and
asked "How do you know your chilli is at least 180 degrees?"

So, I asked her "What temperature does water boil at?" mthen lifted
the lid on my chilli pot to show I was holding a 5 bubble simmer.
Bv)=

Got the point across quick and easy without (too much) insult.

Too mant bureaucraps focus more on the wording than on the intent of regulations.

And those need to have a simple object lesson taught them.

meal, with a lot of meat still on it (she didn't like dealing with leftovers). I asked if I could take the carcasse home with us (we'd brought up a cooler with pumkin pies and other goodies in it), got it
and made soup with it.

Sounds like something I'd do. My local GFS is selling rotisserie
chickens for U$3 each. I save the carcasses after stripping the meaat. Makes some very nice stock ... and inexpensive.

I do that also with the rotisserie chickens we get.

One of the few things that smarty-pants Bobby Flay got right:

Title: Rich Chicken Stock
Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Herbs
Yield: 3 Pints

I just use water, a bit of salt and Bragg's Seasoning for making stock. Then after I debone the bird, I'll add some turmeric.

We all have our ways of getting it done. But, I've *always* used
veggies as a part of my stock making ... be it poultry of
beef/pork/etc.

A free and easy addition to this stock is to bung in any celery leaves youmay have hanging about. I've never canned this - just jarred it in
old mayonnaise (or similar) jars and refigerated it for up to a month
or so.

I'll use either old mayo (if they're glass) jars or some of my canning
jars. A reuseabale lid, basic information on a piece of masking tape and
into the fridge they go.

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Catch you later,
Ruth
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