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A good reason for "Americans" to use LINUX and to despise Microsoft.

https://www.amren.com/news/2025/07/microsoft-applied-to-fill-thousands-of-foreign-worker-positions-in-months-before-mass-layoffs/

Mia Cathell, Washington Examiner, July 9, 2025

Microsoft is laying off about 9,000 employees after applying to fill
thousands of foreign worker positions in the months leading up to the
mass layoffs, according to a Washington Examiner analysis of U.S.
Department of Labor data.

DOL quarterly statistics show that Microsoft submitted 4,776 labor
condition applications, a prerequisite for filing H-1B visa petitions,
between September and March, indicating to the U.S. government that it
intends to fill 14,181 positions with foreign workers this fiscal year.
The filings, however, include extensions to existing employment (3,680), petition amendments (285), and transfers (487), not just new H-1B hires, although the number of new foreign worker hires (9,738) was still high.

{snip}

But the volume of applications for foreign worker positions, coming in
the months before Microsoft laid off thousands of employees to cut
costs, has drawn scrutiny to the Seattle-based tech giant amid a broader national debate over the effects of immigration policy on American
workers and wages.

“It’s explicitly legal to replace Americans with H-1B workers, and that didn’t happen by accident,” Immigration Reform Law Institute legal
counsel John Miano told the Washington Examiner. “That was Congress’s deliberate action.”

{snip}

As of March 31, Microsoft ranks No. 3 nationwide with 14,181 foreign
worker positions certified for fiscal 2025, almost enough to replace
every employee laid off since May, according to the second quarter DOL
report, if that number of foreign worker positions reflected the number
of foreign workers Microsoft actually intended to bring to the U.S.,
which Microsoft disputed.

{snip}

Microsoft is now third in the nation by number of approved H-1B
petitions. According to U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services’
fiscal 2025 figures, to date, Microsoft has 2,862 H-1B beneficiaries
approved by the federal immigration agency, slightly ahead of Meta at
2,843 and Google at 2,781.

{snip}

At a Meta conference in April, Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella said up to
30% of the company’s code inside its repositories is written by
artificial intelligence. Microsoft CTO Kevin Scott, speaking generally
on the future of coding, said he expects 95% of all code to be
AI-generated by 2030. “Very little is going to be human-written code,” Scott said in a March appearance on the 20-minute Venture Capitalist
podcast.

Microsoft is expanding operations in India, including the establishment
of new data centers. In January, Nadella announced a strategic
partnership with the government of India as well as a $3 billion
investment in India cloud and AI infrastructure. As part of its “commitment” to accelerating AI innovation in India, Microsoft is
training 10 million Indians in AI skills.

“They brought in an Indian CEO, and he’s basically trying to make Microsoft into an Indian company,” Miano said of Nadella.

{snip}

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/immigration/3461971/microsoft-h1b-thousands-foreign-worker-positions-before-mass-layoffs/
--
First we will destroy your identity. Then we will teach you your past
was evil. You will conclude yourself that your inheritance, your
homeland, your ancestors and your people are underserving of it all.
Then we will complete your dispossession and dissolve you into the final
phase of the Kalergi Plan.

https://www.globalgulag.us

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A good reason for "Americans" to use LINUX and to despise Microsoft.

https://www.amren.com/news/2025/07/microsoft-applied-to-fill-thousands-of-foreign-worker-positions-in-months-before-mass-layoffs/

Using Linux in a way encourages people to learn to code and contribute things. Open source is a good thing.
Although Linux had been polluted in the last years by RatHead crap.

Microsoft has shares in hardware companies and adding ever more bloat sells more hardware, increasing their profit.
If you look at what a 'computer' like a PC can versus what it could already do 20 years back, not much new.
For nearly EVERY thing Microsoft comes up with, a better and free open source application exists.
Inspiring Americans how to learn to code would be a refreshing thing .
But it may well be too late..
Nut case leaders do not help.
I have been using Linux since 1989 or so,
when I wrote NewsFlex Usenet program because there was no 'Free Agent' for Linux...
https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/newsflex/index.html
Still using it now, on a Raspberry Pi4 8 GB RAM, and on my Samsung laptop... Learning about hardware, asm programming, C programming should be a high school requirement IMO.
Rubbing on 'smart'phone screens ? Well I have one, but not much of a challenge. When AI takes over, what objective and what sort of political system and behavior will it force people into?
Who writes the code, AI itself? more disaster guaranteed.

Coding is interesting, I would like to see the 'Build Your Own Dino' kit on sale at Walmart.
Soon 8 year olds will be able to create deadly viruses and what not.
THAT is the real hacking!!
'Build Your Own President' kit, now not hard to beat the current one ..
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 06:49:47 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:

Although Linux had been polluted in the last years by RatHead crap.

Do tell, how any proprietary company can force any Open Source project to
do stuff it doesn’t want to do.
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 06:49:47 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:

Although Linux had been polluted in the last years by RatHead crap.

Do tell, how any proprietary company can force any Open Source project to
do stuff it doesn’t want to do.

From google:
"AI:
systemd for Linux was primarily developed by Lennart Poettering and Kay Sievers, both software engineers working for Red Hat,
with the initial development beginning in 2010.
Their goal was to replace the traditional System V init system in Linux.
Lennart Poettering, a German software engineer, is widely recognized as the original author of systemd,
as well as other notable projects like PulseAudio and Avahi.
He started working for Red Hat in 2008. While Poettering is a key figure in systemd's creation,
it's important to note that other contributors were involved in its development and evolution.
Some Reddit users say that Poettering's work on systemd has been controversial, but also that Red Hat is generally pro-Linux growth according to Reddit.
"

VERY controversial!!!
RatHead has been making changes, much earlier, in libc
it is called 'market protection', so users were forced to keep using their stuff and RatHead made it as difficult to move to an other system as possible.
systemd is crap
And now they have an other go:

From Google:
"AI:
Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) is undergoing significant changes in version 10, focusing on enhanced security, cloud support, and developer tools.
These changes include the removal of X11 and SysV init, increased integration with systemd, and updates to core components like OpenSSH, SELinux, and Podman.
RHEL 10 also introduces post-quantum cryptography, streamlined FIPS validation, and support for encrypted DNS and Hardware Security Modules (HSM).
"

Security? You must be joking, I could - and can - hack that in a flash.

Nothing is secure.

My laptop runs Ubuntu, my Raspberries run some Debian version that I modified running xfm with 9 virtual desktops.
I may or may not go Debian on the laptop, the big plus for me was that everything worked after installing Ubuntu, a big plus.

Anyways when I need some function or code I write it.
In many cases you do not need a big computer or powerful processor to do fun things
A few lines asm and a micro chip is often all that is needed.
https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/newsflex/download.html
https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/pic/index.html

With very simple computers US could do a manned moon return.
Now with AI and millions of gigabytes and computers they are still stuck on earth.
Meaning of the word 'decline' as in technology decline.

Now the mega watts invested in AI that give normal people nothing and lots of money to the rich, while much of the world is hungry.
Genocide as the normal, first Native Americans, Vietnam, Iraq, Palestine, and now trying to create a big war in Europe, all to sell weapons.
NATO a US weapon sales club.
A criminal as president.




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On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 07:56:23 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 06:49:47 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:

Although Linux had been polluted in the last years by RatHead crap.

Do tell, how any proprietary company can force any Open Source project to
do stuff it doesn’t want to do.

That's easy.

If the project is sponsored by a proprietary company and even includes programmers on the said company's payroll, then the proprietary company
can literally call all the developmental shots.

If anyone thinks that systemd, for example, is the spawn of some altruistic person or group then that anyone is a total idiot.

RedHat makes its bucks in the enterprise and GNU/Linux was not well suited
for the enterprise. Systemd makes enterprise integration much more uniform
and controllable. It is no accident that RedHat sponsored systemd and
still controls its development.

Application software is still immune from proprietary control but infrastructure
development, especially that which is relevant to the enterprise, is very
much dictated by proprietary concerns.

And the mainstream distros will obediently follow.

Mark my words:

Whenever Torvalds steps down from Linux stewardship, by either retirement, disability, or death, the proprietary sharks will infest and destroy
Linux in a heartbeat. FOSS principles be damned.
--
Systemd: solving all the problems that you never knew you had.
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 11:10:56 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 06:49:47 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:

Although Linux had been polluted in the last years by RatHead crap.

Do tell, how any proprietary company can force any Open Source project
to do stuff it doesn’t want to do.

"AI: ..."

Citing AI as evidence for anything is an immediate fail. Try again.

RatHead has been making changes, much earlier, in libc it is called
'market protection', so users were forced to keep using their stuff and RatHead made it as difficult to move to an other system as possible.

Evidence?

From Google:
"AI: ..."

Fail again.

With very simple computers US could do a manned moon return.

An an army of engineers and scientists armed with slide rules. Remember,
every single maneouvre they made had to be checked and rechecked with
ground control.

Now with AI and millions of gigabytes and computers they are still stuck
on earth.

We have sent robot probes to just about every corner of the (planetary
part of the) Solar System. We have rovers on Mars, and the ESA even put a lander on Titan. We have done rendezvous with comets and asteroids, using low-energy multiple-slingshot orbits requiring only modest launch
velocities, that could not have been computed in any reasonable time with
the computers of the Apollo era.

The technology has improved vastly since that time. What has not improved
is the tolerance of the human body to microgravity and radiation.

Now the mega watts invested in AI that give normal people nothing ...

Yeah, you certainly didn’t get anything useful out of it ...
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 11:10:56 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 06:49:47 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:

Although Linux had been polluted in the last years by RatHead crap.

Do tell, how any proprietary company can force any Open Source project
to do stuff it doesn’t want to do.

"AI: ..."

Citing AI as evidence for anything is an immediate fail. Try again.

RatHead has been making changes, much earlier, in libc it is called
'market protection', so users were forced to keep using their stuff and
RatHead made it as difficult to move to an other system as possible.

Evidence?

I remember getting a rathead distro and encountering all that, never used rathead again,
threw it away.

My Unix goes back to the late seventies, when at work I was encountering it. When Linux came, my first distro was SLS linux, it took me an afternoon and my Unix book to really get going.
Nice free C compiler.
Before that my system ran on a CP/M emulator I wrote myself:
https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/z80/index.html
And I had win 3.1 and trumpet winsock for internet, when Billy The Gates said 'internet is really not much'.

Many distros I have, grml, debian, slackware, Suse, Puppee Linux for eeePC, more...
Slackware was my main system for years.
Oh, and Ubuntu now on old laptop.
Old PC in the attic still runs early version of grml.. dual boot.
Slackware on the PC next to me,
Debian on the Pi4 8 GB I am posting this from now (has a 4 TB Toshiba harddisk connected to it too:
raspberrypi: ~ # df
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/root 124334328 30257500 88978000 26% /
devtmpfs 3879380 0 3879380 0% /dev
tmpfs 4044244 22412 4021832 1% /dev/shm
tmpfs 1617700 1328 1616372 1% /run
tmpfs 5120 4 5116 1% /run/lock
/dev/mmcblk0p1 258095 50413 207682 20% /boot
tmpfs 808848 24 808824 1% /run/user/1000
/dev/sda2 3844420600 3135015084 514044852 86% /mnt/sda2

Used an eeePC to run a web server at home, had a fixed IP address.
Now I am mobile only, using a Huawei 4G USB stick..

Don't need gigabytes, internet everywhere on the laptop all over Europe.

Website now handled by some company, saves checking logs for hackers etc every day when running the server yourself.
I do not need gigabytes ultra high speed connections..
Have more than 1000 DVDs BluRay, M-DISC data stored here, 13 TB harddisk space plus some.
Amazing! 20 years or older CDs and DVDs I burned still read fine (all stored in big light proof alu box).

At home I started with a Sinclair ZX80, BASIC, then got an assembler for it, then added / designed more and more
hardware for it...
At work I designed ISA cards for in the IBM PCs...
Now retired but still programming :-)
Where it will go?
Maybe WW3, drones:
https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/quadcopter/index.html

If I was to do it all again, maybe I would go into designing with cells, viruses, RNA,..
Worked with that equipment too in a big university hospital.

What drives me? _curiosity_ I suppose.
And every field you use programming for makes you learn about that field IN DEPTH.

From Google:
"AI: ..."

Fail again.

With very simple computers US could do a manned moon return.

An an army of engineers and scientists armed with slide rules. Remember, >every single maneouvre they made had to be checked and rechecked with
ground control.

Now with AI and millions of gigabytes and computers they are still stuck
on earth.

We have sent robot probes to just about every corner of the (planetary
part of the) Solar System. We have rovers on Mars, and the ESA even put a >lander on Titan. We have done rendezvous with comets and asteroids, using >low-energy multiple-slingshot orbits requiring only modest launch >velocities, that could not have been computed in any reasonable time with >the computers of the Apollo era.

The technology has improved vastly since that time. What has not improved
is the tolerance of the human body to microgravity and radiation.

Long ago big rotating space stations / carriers were proposed to create 'gravity'
Magnetic shield against high energy particles is possibility on long human trips.

What is stupid is a bunch of astronuts doing acrobatics orbiting the earth Like driving endlessly around the block in an 1968 For Mustang.
They are not going ANYWHERE and cost is so high you could feed and house many poor 'merricans for that money.
Now Na_Sa wants to fire all older experienced engineers I have read, an other trump-pet - trumpist plan.
Replace by smart phone rubbers?

Now the mega watts invested in AI that give normal people nothing ...

Yeah, you certainly didn’t get anything useful out of it ...

That is silly, you can use google and it will help you find things.
Their subscript 'AI' I dunno, it is still google but maybe talks a bit more 'normal' language.
If it conflicts with your interests ?? that does not make it untrue.
Wikipedia is a good place too get some info on stuff.

Usenet groups sometimes too.

We need to go back to a simpler Unix, I think there are distros / projects that do that.
Write it yourself? I wonder, already wrote a multitasker once..
Curiosity, I know the subject.

Genetics seems more interesting, write /design your own president?
Modify a pig brain for it? Seems to work ;-)


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On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 07:03:55 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 11:10:56 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 06:49:47 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:

Although Linux had been polluted in the last years by RatHead crap.

Do tell, how any proprietary company can force any Open Source
project to do stuff it doesn’t want to do.

"AI: ..."

Citing AI as evidence for anything is an immediate fail. Try again.

RatHead has been making changes, much earlier, in libc it is
called 'market protection', so users were forced to keep using
their stuff and RatHead made it as difficult to move to an other
system as possible.

Evidence?

I remember getting a rathead distro and encountering all that ...

What “all that”, exactly? Give us your own experience, don’t
regurgitate a bunch of AI vomit again.
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On 7/15/2025 1:03 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:

At home I started with a Sinclair ZX80, BASIC, then got an assembler for it, then added / designed more and more
hardware for it...
At work I designed ISA cards for in the IBM PCs...

I have fond memories of my Tandy Color Computer 3 that ran on OS 9,
supposedly the same multitasking operating system used by NASA in the
original space shuttle. Like you, I first programmed with BASIC and then bought MASM to do machine language programming on the Motorolla 6809
CPU. With that knowledge, I was hired at Maxtor to program servo track
writers and set up robots to dip linear motors in Freon tanks in one of
the clean rooms. I bought the Original Kernigan and Ritchie C Primer
and a C compiler for programming on an IBM AT clone I built from parts
ordered by mail from various computer magazines and locally from
electroinics stores that specialized in hobbyist electronics stuff.

The happiest day of my young adult life was getting my first Commodore
Amiga with a hard drive and 56K modem. (Not quite as happy as when my
first son was born or when I married my wife and mother of my 4 children.)
--
First we will destroy your identity. Then we will teach you your past
was evil. You will conclude yourself that your inheritance, your
homeland, your ancestors and your people are underserving of it all.
Then we will complete your dispossession and dissolve you into the final
phase of the Kalergi Plan.

https://www.globalgulag.us
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On 7/15/2025 1:03 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:

At home I started with a Sinclair ZX80, BASIC, then got an assembler for it, then added / designed more and more
hardware for it...
At work I designed ISA cards for in the IBM PCs...

I have fond memories of my Tandy Color Computer 3 that ran on OS 9, >supposedly the same multitasking operating system used by NASA in the >original space shuttle. Like you, I first programmed with BASIC and then >bought MASM to do machine language programming on the Motorolla 6809
CPU.

We had, around 1979 (I worked at that time at a large accelerator site) some guys there playing with a 6809 board.
I do remember playing moon-landing game on a Commodore Pet there too, around 1979 or so.
But their main system ran Unix, that is why I bought Kernighan and Ritchie.. What helped me a lot in those later years was the book 'Microprocessor interfacing techniques':
https://www.amazon.com/Microprocessor-Interfacing-Techniques-Rodnay-Zaks/dp/0895880296
I started hardware design as a kid back when the first transistors became available, before that with tubes.
In 1968 did exams for higher electronics.
Designed for the army, for the Navy, worked for Esa, many years in broadcasting as technician,
had my own TV repair shop (with some others) too for some years.
Got the broadcasting job because I had designed and build my own portable (vidicon) all transistor TV camera in 1968..
They then gave me a 6 month payed for training in broadcast electronics and management related stuff,
When those moon-landings happened I was in the head-control room here in my country relaying it to the people.
Lots of tube based equipment in those studios those days,
As a kid, what sort of 'opened up' electronics for me was:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Books-E-Aisberg/s?rh=n%3A266239%2Cp_27%3AE%2BAisberg
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eug%C3%A8ne_Aisberg
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eug%C3%A8ne_Aisberg
Dutch, this one I had:
https://archive.org/details/zoo-werkt-de-radio_1939
Am radio-ham too...
Not very active (could change any moment) am into satellite links etc..

With that knowledge, I was hired at Maxtor to program servo track
writers and set up robots to dip linear motors in Freon tanks in one of
the clean rooms. I bought the Original Kernigan and Ritchie C Primer
and a C compiler for programming on an IBM AT clone I built from parts >ordered by mail from various computer magazines and locally from >electroinics stores that specialized in hobbyist electronics stuff.

The happiest day of my young adult life was getting my first Commodore
Amiga with a hard drive and 56K modem. (Not quite as happy as when my
first son was born or when I married my wife and mother of my 4 children.)

I may have myself cloned and then millions of me will fill the world, like ants,
each one with a soldering iron and oscilloscope as weapon..
beep



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On 14/07/2025 00:53, Dark Brandon wrote:

A good reason for "Americans" to use LINUX and to despise Microsoft.

https://www.amren.com/news/2025/07/microsoft-applied-to-fill-thousands-of-foreign-worker-positions-in-months-before-mass-layoffs/

Mia Cathell, Washington Examiner, July 9, 2025

Microsoft is laying off about 9,000 employees after applying to fill >thousands of foreign worker positions in the months leading up to the
mass layoffs, according to a Washington Examiner analysis of U.S.
Department of Labor data.

DOL quarterly statistics show that Microsoft submitted 4,776 labor
condition applications, a prerequisite for filing H-1B visa petitions, >between September and March, indicating to the U.S. government that it >intends to fill 14,181 positions with foreign workers this fiscal year.
The filings, however, include extensions to existing employment (3,680), >petition amendments (285), and transfers (487), not just new H-1B hires, >although the number of new foreign worker hires (9,738) was still high.

{snip}

But the volume of applications for foreign worker positions, coming in
the months before Microsoft laid off thousands of employees to cut
costs, has drawn scrutiny to the Seattle-based tech giant amid a broader >national debate over the effects of immigration policy on American
workers and wages.

“It’s explicitly legal to replace Americans with H-1B workers, and that >didn’t happen by accident,” Immigration Reform Law Institute legal >counsel John Miano told the Washington Examiner. “That was Congress’s >deliberate action.”

{snip}

As of March 31, Microsoft ranks No. 3 nationwide with 14,181 foreign
worker positions certified for fiscal 2025, almost enough to replace
every employee laid off since May, according to the second quarter DOL >report, if that number of foreign worker positions reflected the number
of foreign workers Microsoft actually intended to bring to the U.S.,
which Microsoft disputed.

{snip}

Microsoft is now third in the nation by number of approved H-1B
petitions. According to U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services’
fiscal 2025 figures, to date, Microsoft has 2,862 H-1B beneficiaries >approved by the federal immigration agency, slightly ahead of Meta at
2,843 and Google at 2,781.

{snip}

At a Meta conference in April, Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella said up to
30% of the company’s code inside its repositories is written by
artificial intelligence. Microsoft CTO Kevin Scott, speaking generally
on the future of coding, said he expects 95% of all code to be
AI-generated by 2030. “Very little is going to be human-written code,” >Scott said in a March appearance on the 20-minute Venture Capitalist >podcast.

Microsoft is expanding operations in India, including the establishment
of new data centers. In January, Nadella announced a strategic
partnership with the government of India as well as a $3 billion
investment in India cloud and AI infrastructure. As part of its >“commitment” to accelerating AI innovation in India, Microsoft is >training 10 million Indians in AI skills.

“They brought in an Indian CEO, and he’s basically trying to make >Microsoft into an Indian company,” Miano said of Nadella.

{snip}

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/immigration/3461971/microsoft-h1b-thousands-foreign-worker-positions-before-mass-layoffs/

Someone quiped on YouTube that by AI Microsoft means Actual Indians...
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On 2025-07-13 08:53 PM, Dark Brandon wrote:

A good reason for "Americans" to use LINUX and to despise Microsoft.

https://www.amren.com/news/2025/07/microsoft-applied-to-fill-thousands-of-foreign-worker-positions-in-months-before-mass-layoffs/

Mia Cathell, Washington Examiner, July 9, 2025

Microsoft is laying off about 9,000 employees after applying to fill thousands of foreign worker positions in the months leading up to the
mass layoffs, according to a Washington Examiner analysis of U.S.
Department of Labor data.

I'm shocked! SHOCKED, I tells ya!!! I cannot believe that MicroShaft
would actually treat people like this.

All I can say is, I'm shocked...
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On 7/15/2025 11:25 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On 7/15/2025 1:03 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:

At home I started with a Sinclair ZX80, BASIC, then got an assembler for it, then added / designed more and more
hardware for it...
At work I designed ISA cards for in the IBM PCs...

I have fond memories of my Tandy Color Computer 3 that ran on OS 9,
supposedly the same multitasking operating system used by NASA in the
original space shuttle. Like you, I first programmed with BASIC and then
bought MASM to do machine language programming on the Motorolla 6809
CPU.

We had, around 1979 (I worked at that time at a large accelerator site) some guys there playing with a 6809 board.
I do remember playing moon-landing game on a Commodore Pet there too, around 1979 or so.
But their main system ran Unix, that is why I bought Kernighan and Ritchie.. What helped me a lot in those later years was the book 'Microprocessor interfacing techniques':
https://www.amazon.com/Microprocessor-Interfacing-Techniques-Rodnay-Zaks/dp/0895880296
I started hardware design as a kid back when the first transistors became available, before that with tubes.
In 1968 did exams for higher electronics.
Designed for the army, for the Navy, worked for Esa, many years in broadcasting as technician,
had my own TV repair shop (with some others) too for some years.
Got the broadcasting job because I had designed and build my own portable (vidicon) all transistor TV camera in 1968..
They then gave me a 6 month payed for training in broadcast electronics and management related stuff,
When those moon-landings happened I was in the head-control room here in my country relaying it to the people.
Lots of tube based equipment in those studios those days,
As a kid, what sort of 'opened up' electronics for me was:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Books-E-Aisberg/s?rh=n%3A266239%2Cp_27%3AE%2BAisberg
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eug%C3%A8ne_Aisberg
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eug%C3%A8ne_Aisberg
Dutch, this one I had:
https://archive.org/details/zoo-werkt-de-radio_1939
Am radio-ham too...
Not very active (could change any moment) am into satellite links etc..

With that knowledge, I was hired at Maxtor to program servo track
writers and set up robots to dip linear motors in Freon tanks in one of
the clean rooms. I bought the Original Kernigan and Ritchie C Primer
and a C compiler for programming on an IBM AT clone I built from parts
ordered by mail from various computer magazines and locally from
electroinics stores that specialized in hobbyist electronics stuff.

The happiest day of my young adult life was getting my first Commodore
Amiga with a hard drive and 56K modem. (Not quite as happy as when my
first son was born or when I married my wife and mother of my 4 children.)

I may have myself cloned and then millions of me will fill the world, like ants,
each one with a soldering iron and oscilloscope as weapon.
beep

I wrote a column on the subject of the TRS 80 Color Computer briefly for Computer Shopper magazine. Tandy had their own proprietary magazine
called Computer Cat for the Color Computer, but it was childish and
comic book like and an embarrassment to display among mature programmers.

BYTE Magazine was my go to computer mag, with good science fiction
articles. MONDO 2000 Magazine was another good one, with articles by
Terrence Mackenna (spelling?). It was a technically oriented magazine
for people who liked hallucinogenic drugs, mostly ayahuasca or peyote.
--
First we will destroy your identity. Then we will teach you your past
was evil. You will conclude yourself that your inheritance, your
homeland, your ancestors and your people are underserving of it all.
Then we will complete your dispossession and dissolve you into the final
phase of the Kalergi Plan.

https://www.globalgulag.us
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On 7/15/2025 3:50 PM, Dr. Noah Bodie wrote:

On 2025-07-13 08:53 PM, Dark Brandon wrote:

A good reason for "Americans" to use LINUX and to despise Microsoft.

https://www.amren.com/news/2025/07/microsoft-applied-to-fill-
thousands-of-foreign-worker-positions-in-months-before-mass-layoffs/


Mia Cathell, Washington Examiner, July 9, 2025

Microsoft is laying off about 9,000 employees after applying to fill
thousands of foreign worker positions in the months leading up to the
mass layoffs, according to a Washington Examiner analysis of U.S.
Department of Labor data.

I'm shocked! SHOCKED, I tells ya!!! I cannot believe that MicroShaft
would actually treat people like this.

All I can say is, I'm shocked...

Bill Gates, in a fit of woketardedness, announced he would give away his ill-begotten fortune to various African organizations over the next two decades. Perhaps he actually woke up from binging on alcohol while
being told by his significant other that he had donated his fortune to
Africa. Maybe in the fog of a terrible hangover, he croaked out "I did
what?"
--
First we will destroy your identity. Then we will teach you your past
was evil. You will conclude yourself that your inheritance, your
homeland, your ancestors and your people are underserving of it all.
Then we will complete your dispossession and dissolve you into the final
phase of the Kalergi Plan.

https://www.globalgulag.us
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On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 16:13:02 -0600, Dark Brandon wrote:

Bill Gates, in a fit of woketardedness, announced he would give away his ill-begotten fortune to various African organizations over the next two decades.

I’m sure there are some in the US who feel deserving of such dirty
money ...
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On 7/15/2025 11:25 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On 7/15/2025 1:03 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:

At home I started with a Sinclair ZX80, BASIC, then got an assembler for it, then added / designed more and more
hardware for it...
At work I designed ISA cards for in the IBM PCs...

I have fond memories of my Tandy Color Computer 3 that ran on OS 9,
supposedly the same multitasking operating system used by NASA in the
original space shuttle. Like you, I first programmed with BASIC and then >>> bought MASM to do machine language programming on the Motorolla 6809
CPU.

We had, around 1979 (I worked at that time at a large accelerator site) some guys there playing with a 6809 board.
I do remember playing moon-landing game on a Commodore Pet there too, around 1979 or so.
But their main system ran Unix, that is why I bought Kernighan and Ritchie.. >> What helped me a lot in those later years was the book 'Microprocessor interfacing techniques':
https://www.amazon.com/Microprocessor-Interfacing-Techniques-Rodnay-Zaks/dp/0895880296
I started hardware design as a kid back when the first transistors became available, before that with tubes.
In 1968 did exams for higher electronics.
Designed for the army, for the Navy, worked for Esa, many years in broadcasting as technician,
had my own TV repair shop (with some others) too for some years.
Got the broadcasting job because I had designed and build my own portable (vidicon) all transistor TV camera in 1968..
They then gave me a 6 month payed for training in broadcast electronics and management related stuff,
When those moon-landings happened I was in the head-control room here in my country relaying it to the people.
Lots of tube based equipment in those studios those days,
As a kid, what sort of 'opened up' electronics for me was:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Books-E-Aisberg/s?rh=n%3A266239%2Cp_27%3AE%2BAisberg
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eug%C3%A8ne_Aisberg
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eug%C3%A8ne_Aisberg
Dutch, this one I had:
https://archive.org/details/zoo-werkt-de-radio_1939
Am radio-ham too...
Not very active (could change any moment) am into satellite links etc..

With that knowledge, I was hired at Maxtor to program servo track
writers and set up robots to dip linear motors in Freon tanks in one of
the clean rooms. I bought the Original Kernigan and Ritchie C Primer
and a C compiler for programming on an IBM AT clone I built from parts
ordered by mail from various computer magazines and locally from
electronics stores that specialized in hobbyist electronics stuff.

The happiest day of my young adult life was getting my first Commodore
Amiga with a hard drive and 56K modem. (Not quite as happy as when my
first son was born or when I married my wife and mother of my 4 children.) >>

I may have myself cloned and then millions of me will fill the world, like ants,
each one with a soldering iron and oscilloscope as weapon.
beep

I wrote a column on the subject of the TRS 80 Color Computer briefly for >Computer Shopper magazine. Tandy had their own proprietary magazine
called Computer Cat for the Color Computer, but it was childish and
comic book like and an embarrassment to display among mature programmers.

BYTE Magazine was my go to computer mag, with good science fiction
articles. MONDO 2000 Magazine was another good one, with articles by >Terrence Mackenna (spelling?). It was a technically oriented magazine
for people who liked hallucinogenic drugs, mostly ayahuasca or peyote.

I started reading electronic related magazines as a kid:
https://verstraten-elektronica.blogspot.com/p/radio-blan-de-muiderkring.html and build some of their projects, also build some Philips kits.
And Amroh kits:
https://www.nfor.nl/index.php?mode=thread&id=99309

And was of course reading things like Radio Electronica (Dutch):
https://verstraten-elektronica.blogspot.com/p/radio-electronica-1964-1967.html and
Elektuur (in English Elector)
Some German magazines like C't and Chip
And some US ones, some also that went into C programming,
learned about using linked lists from that in C.

To this day Usenet newsgroup sci.electronics.design' is still active.
somebody there posting now is still using tubes...

I did buy - and play with some surplus stuff too, radio transceivers, 31 set:
https://pa3esy.nl/military/gb/army/ws-31-AFV/html/ws-31-afv_set.html

Never went much into that drugs stuff, we used to smoke all sort of things upstairs in my room,
play music on my very powerful HiFi :-)
but the smell got so much into your clothes you got a funny look at work... Somehow I could just drop all that, some got badly addicted (LSD etc).
Early seventies...
Studied psychology books. meditation, gurus...
Am studying music now, played trumpet back then, had a guitar too,
some years ago bought a keyboard and now playing that every day.
Still learning.
Was thinking about getting a saxophone a few days back.
In the high school days I designed an build a tube amp for the school band.. Guitarist liked it.

so much to explore :-)


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On 2025-07-16 02:36 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 16:13:02 -0600, Dark Brandon wrote:

Bill Gates, in a fit of woketardedness, announced he would give away his
ill-begotten fortune to various African organizations over the next two
decades.

I’m sure there are some in the US who feel deserving of such dirty
money ...

Anyone who bought Windows?
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