• P!=NP proof (revised)

    From wij@wyniijj5@gmail.com to comp.lang.c on Wed Nov 19 15:25:28 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.c

    The following is a snipet of the revised proof https://sourceforge.net/projects/cscall/files/MisFiles/PNP-proof-en.txt/download
    I think the idea of the proof should be valid and easy to understand. The rest technical apart should be straightforward (could take pages or dozens of pages, so ignored). But, anyway, something like the C/C++ description is still needed. Can you find any defects?
    OTOH, C/C++ can be the language for for proving math. theorems, lots easier than
    TM language to handle and understand. Opinions?
    --------
    ℕℙ::= {q| q is a decision problem that a computer solves in O(2^|q|) steps using
    the following fnp algorithm template. q contains a verification dataset
    C, card(C)∈O(2^|q|), and a Ptime verification function v:C->{true,false}.
    If ∃c,v(c)=true, then the answer to problem q is true; otherwise, it is
    false.}
    // begin_certificate is a Ptime function that retrieves the first
    // Certificate element from the problem statement q. If this element does
    // not exist, it returns a unique and virtual EndC element.
    Certificate begin_certificate(Problem q);
    // end_certificate is a Ptime function that retrieves the element EndC from
    // the problem statement q.
    Certificate end_certificate(Problem q);
    // next_certificate is a Ptime function that retrieves the next element of
    // c from the problem statement q. If this element does not exist, return
    // the EndC element.
    Certificate next_certificate(Problem q, Certificate c);
    // v is a Ptime function. v(c)==true if c is the element expected by the
    // problem.
    bool v(Certificate c);
    bool fnp(Problem q) {
    Certificate c, begin, end; // Declare the verification data variable
    begin= begin_certificate(q); // begin is the first verification data
    end= end_certificate(q); // end is the false data EndC used to
    // indicate the end.
    for(c = begin; c != end;
    c = next_certificate(q, c)) { // At most O(2^|q|) steps.
    // next_certificate(c) is the Ptime
    // function to get the next
    // verification data of c
    if(v(c) == true) return true; // v: C->{true, false} is the polynomial
    // time verification function.
    }
    return false;
    }
    Since a continuous O(P) number of Ptime functions (or instructions) can be
    combined into a single Ptime function, if the complexity of each function is
    Ptime, and the smallest unit of complexity is also Ptime, then it's roughly
    the same. Any Ptime function can be added, deleted, merged, or split in the
    algorithm without affecting the algorithm's complexity. Perhaps in the end,
    only the number of decision branches needs to be considered.
    [Note] This definition of ℕℙ is equivalent to the traditional Turing machine
    definition of ℕℙ. The proof of equivalence is plain and lengthy, and
    not very important to most people, so it is omitted.
    [Note] According to the Church-Turing conjecture, no formal language can
    surpass the expressive power of a Turing machine (or algorithm) (i.e.
    the decisive operational process from part to whole). C language can
    be regarded as a high-level language for Turing machines, and as a
    formal language for knowledge or proof.
    Problem Q::= Given plaintext a, ciphertext b, decoder d, and key length klen.
    The key is a Ptime program. Problem Q determines whether there exists a
    key c such that d(b,c)=a.
    Problem Q can be computed using the following C/C++ pseudo code as fnp by
    definition; therefore, Q∈ℕℙ.
    Plaintext a, ciphertext b, decoder d, and the length of key klen are all
    obtained from q:
    bool f(Problem q) {
    int MaxKey= ... // klen=maximum value of key (O(2^klen))
    for(int c=1; c<=MaxKey; ++i) {
    if(equ(d(b,c),a)) return true; // Polynomial-time verification
    // (If c is not a valid program, then d
    // returns a value such that equ test
    // result is false)
    }
    return false;
    }
    Since the key is a freely written program, Each decription algorithm (key)
    is essentially independent, and the given problem q may contain no
    information about the algorithm's logic (knowledge of one key cannot be
    used to deduce information about another).
    Therefore, at least O(2^|klen|) possible key values must be tested one by
    one. Thus, the complexity of problem q is O(2^N).
    ---------------
    (Thanks to olcott, this proof was origianlly inspired by POO Halt, where the
    P-NP proof based on Halting Problem was found invalid)
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  • From wij@wyniijj5@gmail.com to comp.lang.c on Fri Nov 28 11:48:51 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.c

    On Wed, 2025-11-19 at 15:25 +0800, wij wrote:
    The following is a snipet of the revised proof https://sourceforge.net/projects/cscall/files/MisFiles/PNP-proof-en.txt/download

    I think the idea of the proof should be valid and easy to understand. The rest
    technical apart should be straightforward (could take pages or dozens of pages,
    so ignored). But, anyway, something like the C/C++ description is still needed.
    Can you find any defects?

    OTOH, C/C++ can be the language for for proving math. theorems, lots easier than
    TM language to handle and understand. Opinions?
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Algorithmic Problem::= A computer problem in which the computational steps are a
    function of the problem statement's length (size). This problem can be
    described asymptotically as the relationship between the problem size and
    the computational steps.
    Polynomial-time procedure (or Ptime procedure)::= O(P) number of consecutive,
    fixed-sized basic operations (because the procedure is a deterministic
    process, it is sometimes called a "function" or "operation"). Therefore, as
    defined by O(P), O(P) number of Ptime procedures executed consecutively can
    also be considered as a single Ptime procedure.
    Reduction::= The algorithm for computation problem A can be transformed into
    computation problem B by a Ptime procedure, denoted as A≤B (because the
    Ptime transformation itself includes the computation of problem A, any two
    Ptime problems can be reduced to each other).
    ANP::= {q| q is a statement of a decision problem that a computer can solve in
    O(2^|q|) steps using the following fnp algorithm template. q contains a
    certification dataset C, card(C)∈O(2^|q|), and a Ptime verification function
    v:C->{true,false}. If ∃c,v(c)=true, then the answer to problem q is true;
    otherwise, it is false.}
    // begin_certificate is a Ptime function that retrieves the first
    // Certificate element from the problem statement q. If this element does
    // not exist, it returns a unique and virtual EndC element.
    Certificate begin_certificate(Problem q);
    // end_certificate is a Ptime function that retrieves the element EndC from
    // the problem statement q.
    Certificate end_certificate(Problem q);
    // next_certificate is a Ptime function that retrieves the next element of
    // c from the certification dataset C. If this element does not exist,
    // return the EndC element.
    Certificate next_certificate(Problem q, Certificate c);
    // v is a Ptime function. v(c)==true if c is the element expected by the
    // problem.
    bool v(Certificate c);
    bool fnp(Problem q) {
    Certificate c, begin, end; // Declare the certification data variable
    begin= begin_certificate(q); // begin is the first certification data
    end= end_certificate(q); // end is the false data EndC used to
    // indicate the end.
    for(c = begin; c != end;
    c = next_certificate(q, c)) { // At most O(2^|q|) steps.
    // next_certificate(c) is a Ptime
    // function to get the next
    // certification data of c
    if(v(c) == true) return true; // v: C->{true, false} is a polynomial
    // time verification function.
    }
    return false;
    }
    Since a continuous O(P) number of Ptime functions (or instructions) can be
    combined into a single Ptime function, at roughly this complexity analysis,
    any Ptime function can be added, deleted, merged/split in the algorithm
    steps without affecting the algorithm's complexity. Perhaps in the end, only
    the number of decision branches needs to be considered.
    An ANP problem q can be expressed as q<v, C>, where v = Ptime verification
    function, and C = certification dataset (description).
    [Note] According to Church-Turing conjecture, no formal language can
    surpass the expressive power of a Turing machine (or algorithm, i.e.,
    the decisive operational process from parts to the whole). C
    language can be regarded as a high-level language of Turing machines,
    and as a formal language for knowledge or proof.

    Prop1: ANP = ℕℙ
    Proof: Omitted (The proof of the equivalence of ANP and the traditional
    Turing machine definition of ℕℙ is straightforward and lengthy, and
    not very important to most people. Since there are already thousands
    of real-world ℕℙℂ problems available for verification, the definition
    of ANP does not rely on NDTM theory)
    Prop2: An ANP problem q<v,C> can be arbitrarily partitioned into two subproblems
    q1<v,C1>, q2<v,C2), where C = C1∪C2.
    Proof: The certification dataset can be recursively partitioned as follows:
    bool banp(Problem q) {
    if(certificate_size(q)<Thresh) { // Thresh is a small constant
    return solve_thresh_case(q); // Solve q in constant time
    }
    Problem q1,q2;
    split_certificate(q,q1,q2); // Split the certification dataset C
    // to form q1,q2, in which the number of
    // certificates are roughly the same.
    return banp(q1) || banp(q2); // Compute the subproblems respectively
    }
    Prop3: Any two ANP problems q1 and q2 can be synthesized into another ANP
    problem q, denoted as q = q1 ⊕ q2. The certification dataset C and the
    verification function v of q are defined as follows:
    C = C1 ∪ C2 // C1 and C2 are the certification datasets of q1 and q2
    // respectively
    bool v(x) {
    return v1(x) || v2(x); // v1 and v2 are the verification functions of
    // q1 and q2 respectively
    }
    Therefore, we have the identity: q1<v1,C1>⊕ q2<v2,C2> = q<v1||v2, C1∪C2>.
    Prop4: ℙ=ℕℙ iff the algorithm fnp in the ℕℙ definition (or ℕℙℂ algorithm) can be
    replaced by a Ptime algorithm.
    Proof: Omitted
    Prop5: For subproblems q1<v,C1> and q2<v,C2> (same v), if C1 ∩ C2 = ∅, then
    there is no information in problem q1 that is sufficient in terms of
    order of complexity to speed up the computation of q2.
    Proof: An AuxInfo object, called 'auxiliary information', can be added to
    banp to store the results after computation of a certain problem q,
    as rewritten as banp2. Depending on the content of the auxiliary
    information, banp2 can represent possible algorithms for ANP/ℕℙℂ
    problems with complexity ranging from O(N) to O(2^N).
    bool banp2(Problem q, AuxInfo* ibuf) { // Calculate q and write the
    // obtained auxiliary information to *ibuf
    // Check and initialize *ibuf
    if(certificate_size(q)<Thresh) {
    return solve_thresh_case(q,ibuf);
    }
    Problem q1,q2;
    split_certificate(q,q1,q2);
    AuxInfo I; // I stores information to help solve problems.
    if(banp2(q1,&I)==true) { // banp2(q1,I) recursively computes subproblem
    // q1 and stores any auxiliary information that
    // can be derived from q1 in I.
    write_ibuf1(ibuf,q); // Write auxiliary information
    return true; // The information obtained from subproblem q1
    // is valid for any problem q.
    }
    bool rv=banp2_i(q2,I); // Solve q2 with given information I, effective
    // regardless of the source of the problem.
    write_ibuf2(ibuf,q);
    return rv;
    }
    The above `banp2_i` does not care which ANP problem (including trivial
    problems) the given information `I` originates from. The `I` generated can
    also provide auxiliary information for almost all other ANP problems.
    Since the auxiliary information I obtained from the trivial subproblems
    cannot provide sufficient information to accelerate computation to the
    extent of improving the complexity order for every subproblem, the
    proposition is proved.
    Conclusion: Since banp2 algorithm cannot be faster than O(2^N), there is no
    algorithm faster than O(2^N) for ℕℙℂ problems. Therefore, ℙ≠ℕℙ.
    [Note] In fact, from Prop4, the fnp definition of the ℕℙ problem, and the
    definition of the Ptime procedure, it can also be roughly seen that
    ℙ≠ℕℙ.
    -----------------------
    I feel the 'assertion' in Prop5 "the trivial subproblems cannot provide
    sufficient information to accelerate computation to the
    extent of improving the complexity order for every subproblem, the
    proposition is proved." is abrupt. Better way of phrasing?
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