• Ben's objection finally fully addressed 2.0 --- I am my own grandpa

    From olcott@NoOne@NoWhere.com to comp.theory,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++ on Tue Dec 9 22:33:21 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.c

    On 10/14/2022 7:44 PM, Ben Bacarisse wrote:

    *Original context*
    On 10/14/2022 12:06 PM, olcott wrote:
    Professor Sipser has agreed that this is the correct criteria:

    If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates
    its input D until H correctly determines that its
    simulated D would never stop running unless aborted then

    H can abort its simulation of D and correctly report
    that D specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations.


    I don't think that is the shell game. PO really
    /has/ an H (it's trivial to do for this one case)
    that correctly determines that P(P) *would* never
    stop running *unless* aborted.

    He knows and accepts that P(P) actually does stop.
    The wrong answer is justified by what would
    happen if H (and hence a different P) where not
    what they actually are.


    int DD()
    {
    int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);
    if (Halt_Status)
    HERE: goto HERE;
    return Halt_Status;
    }

    After many very extensive discussions with LLM
    systems there are two principles that prove that
    I have correctly refuted the halting problem itself.

    (1) the behavior that an input DD specifies to a
    halt decider HHH is the sequence of steps of DD
    simulated by HHH according to the semantics of
    the C programming language.

    (2) Turing Machine based Computable functions
    only transform input finite strings into some value.

    Computable functions are the basic objects of study
    in computability theory. Informally, a function is
    computable if there is an algorithm that computes
    the value of the function for every value of its argument. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computable_function

    DD() executed from main() calls HHH(DD) thus is
    not one-and-the-same-thing as an argument to HHH.

    *I will add a little humor for levity*

    DD() executed from main() that calls HHH(DD)
    as one-and-the-same-thing as an argument to HHH.

    *Would be like I am my own grandpa* https://www.streetdirectory.com/lyricadvisor/song/euwflw/im_my_own_grandpa/
    --
    Copyright 2025 Olcott

    My 28 year goal has been to make
    "true on the basis of meaning expressed in language"
    reliably computable.

    This required establishing a new foundation
    for correct reasoning.
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