• Meta is Dust: Yann LeCun crushed by Behemoth China (Re: Did youcompare OpenAI to Anthropic)

    From Mild Shock@janburse@fastmail.fm to comp.lang.prolog on Thu Nov 13 19:05:23 2025
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    Hi,

    How it started:

    RIP Deepseek. We have a new #1 open-source AI model https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt6_zIKeX6A

    How its going:

    Meta’s AI Genius Just Quit — Even Zuckerberg Seems Surprised. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2tr1Q3D1ZI

    I guess Yann LeCun was not paying attention
    to the transition of LLM (Large Language Models)
    to LRM (Large Reasoning Models).

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Did you compare OpenAI to Anthropic.
    ChatGPT has its pros and cons, so does Claude.

    Claude vs. ChatGPT: What's the difference? https://zapier.com/blog/claude-vs-chatgpt/

    Here my prefered test:

    ChatGPT:

    Q: Make a joke about Jan Burse
    A: Sure! Here's a light-hearted joke:
    Why did Jan Burse bring a Prolog book to the comedy club?
    Because even logic needs a laugh sometimes!

    Claude:

    Q: Make a joke about Jan Burse
    A: I should note that my knowledge about Jan Burse
    is quite limited and I may be prone to hallucinating
    details, so I wouldn't want to make a joke that
    might misrepresent them. Perhaps you could teil
    me more about Jan Burse first, or we could find
    a different topic for humor that we can be more
    certain about?

    LoL

    Bye

    P.S.: How the heck did ChatGPT associate my name with Prolog?

    Mild Shock schrieb:

    Symbolic AI people are extremely pissed by ChatGPT.
    Here is another example of a talk, basically
    declaraing a Symbolic AI Winter:

    [SPLASH'24] IBR - OOPSLA Keynote (Oct 24th)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjBDtrqFde4

    Richard Gabriel is an extreme LISPer.  LISP is a
    symbolic programming language by John McCarthy, it
    is an acronym for List Processing Language.

    I think all the Symbolic AI people underestimate
    the opportunities that ChatGPT offers with natural
    language access, even for problems from symbolic AI.

    So I made this meme:

    Symbolic AI researchers
    https://www.reddit.com/r/StuffOnCats/comments/7t6bye/ramen_cats/


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  • From Mild Shock@janburse@fastmail.fm to comp.lang.prolog on Thu Nov 13 19:14:15 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.prolog

    Hi,

    Because the Prolog community has dummbed itself
    down over the last years. You don't find something
    mildly interesting published by Prologers.

    On the other hand Behemoth China has easy game:

    8x Authors China:

    Abductive Logical Rule Induction by Bridging Inductive
    Logic Programming and Multimodal Large Language Models https://arxiv.org/pdf/2509.21874

    2x Authors China:

    Domain-Contextualized Concept Graphs:
    A Computable Framework for Knowledge Representation https://arxiv.org/abs/2510.16802

    Have Fun!

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    How it started:

    RIP Deepseek. We have a new #1 open-source AI model https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt6_zIKeX6A

    How its going:

    Meta’s AI Genius Just Quit — Even Zuckerberg Seems Surprised. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2tr1Q3D1ZI

    I guess Yann LeCun was not paying attention
    to the transition of LLM (Large Language Models)
    to LRM (Large Reasoning Models).

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Did you compare OpenAI to Anthropic.
    ChatGPT has its pros and cons, so does Claude.

    Claude vs. ChatGPT: What's the difference?
    https://zapier.com/blog/claude-vs-chatgpt/

    Here my prefered test:

    ChatGPT:

    Q: Make a joke about Jan Burse
    A: Sure! Here's a light-hearted joke:
    Why did Jan Burse bring a Prolog book to the comedy club?
    Because even logic needs a laugh sometimes!

    Claude:

    Q: Make a joke about Jan Burse
    A: I should note that my knowledge about Jan Burse
    is quite limited and I may be prone to hallucinating
    details, so I wouldn't want to make a joke that
    might misrepresent them. Perhaps you could teil
    me more about Jan Burse first, or we could find
    a different topic for humor that we can be more
    certain about?

    LoL

    Bye

    P.S.: How the heck did ChatGPT associate my name with Prolog?

    Mild Shock schrieb:

    Symbolic AI people are extremely pissed by ChatGPT.
    Here is another example of a talk, basically
    declaraing a Symbolic AI Winter:

    [SPLASH'24] IBR - OOPSLA Keynote (Oct 24th)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjBDtrqFde4

    Richard Gabriel is an extreme LISPer.  LISP is a
    symbolic programming language by John McCarthy, it
    is an acronym for List Processing Language.

    I think all the Symbolic AI people underestimate
    the opportunities that ChatGPT offers with natural
    language access, even for problems from symbolic AI.

    So I made this meme:

    Symbolic AI researchers
    https://www.reddit.com/r/StuffOnCats/comments/7t6bye/ramen_cats/



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