In a Tibetan lamasery, the monks seek to
list all of the names of God. They believe
the Universe was created for this purpose,
and that once this naming is completed, God
will bring the Universe to an end. Three
centuries ago, the monks created an alphabet
in which they calculated they could encode
all the possible names of God, numbering
about 9,000,000,000 ("nine billion") and
each having no more than nine characters.
riting the names out by hand, as they had
been doing, even after eliminating various
nonsense combinations, would take another
15,000 years; the monks wish to use modern
technology to finish this task in 100 days.
They rent a computer capable of printing all
the possible permutations, and hire two
Westerners to install and program the machine.
The computer operators are skeptical but
play along. After three months, as the job
nears completion, they fear that the monks
will blame the computer (and, by extension,
its operators) when nothing happens. The
Westerners leave slightly earlier than their
scheduled departure without warning the monks,
so that it will complete its final print run
shortly after they leave. On their way to the
airfield they pause on the mountain path. Under
a clear night sky they es timate that it must be
just about the time that the monks are pasting
the final printed names into their holy books.
Then they notice that "overhead, without any
fuss, the stars were going out."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Billion_Names_of_God
Operational energy (running the data center
for 1 year at 1 GW) = 8,760 TWh Hardware
manufacturing energy = 0.75 TWh
So the energy to produce the hardware is
roughly 0.0085 (or 0.85%) of the annual
operational energy.
Hi,
Interestingly there is also now a top-ten
for AI data centers, not only super computers.
We are talking about newly built AI data centers
that for the first time go into giga watts:
The New World’s Largest AI Supercluster https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxuSvyOwVCI
Some confirmed picks:
xAI Colossus Memphis
Phase 1 100000 xAI U.S. Confirmed
Tesla Cortex Phase 1 50000 Tesla U.S. Confirmed Lawrence Livermore NL
El Capitan Phase 2 44143 U.S. Department of
Energy U.S. Confirmed
Anonymized Chinese
System 30000 N/A China Confirmed
Meta GenAI 2024a 24576 Meta AI U.S. Confirmed
Meta GenAI 2024b 24576 Meta AI U.S. Confirmed Jupiter, Jülich 23536 EuroHPC JU,
Jülich Supercomputing
Center Germany Confirmed
Anonymized Chinese
System 20000 N/A China Confirmed
Anonymized Chinese
System 20000 N/A China Confirmed
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/the-worlds-most-powerful-ai-supercomputers/
Bye
Mild Shock schrieb:
In a Tibetan lamasery, the monks seek to
list all of the names of God. They believe
the Universe was created for this purpose,
and that once this naming is completed, God
will bring the Universe to an end. Three
centuries ago, the monks created an alphabet
in which they calculated they could encode
all the possible names of God, numbering
about 9,000,000,000 ("nine billion") and
each having no more than nine characters.
riting the names out by hand, as they had
been doing, even after eliminating various
nonsense combinations, would take another
15,000 years; the monks wish to use modern
technology to finish this task in 100 days.
They rent a computer capable of printing all
the possible permutations, and hire two
Westerners to install and program the machine.
The computer operators are skeptical but
play along. After three months, as the job
nears completion, they fear that the monks
will blame the computer (and, by extension,
its operators) when nothing happens. The
Westerners leave slightly earlier than their
scheduled departure without warning the monks,
so that it will complete its final print run
shortly after they leave. On their way to the
airfield they pause on the mountain path. Under
a clear night sky they es timate that it must be
just about the time that the monks are pasting
the final printed names into their holy books.
Then they notice that "overhead, without any
fuss, the stars were going out."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Billion_Names_of_God
Hi,
So the Tibetan lamasery had it right,
the lights go out. There is a never ending
hunger for crunch? Even requiring USA
to go into domestic chip production:
America’s Most Advanced Chip Factory Yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VX3jNJmbcI
But chip production etc.. (embodied energy) is
only a fraction of the energy consumption:
Operational energy (running the data center
for 1 year at 1 GW) = 8,760 TWh Hardware
manufacturing energy = 0.75 TWh
So the energy to produce the hardware is
roughly 0.0085 (or 0.85%) of the annual
operational energy.
What are the projections? By 2030, global
power demand for data centers is projected to
reach approximately 220 GW, underscoring the
urgency and strategic importance of securing
power and hardware capacity:
$100B Bet on 10GW AI Infrastructure https://51ai.substack.com/p/openai-nvidia-100b-bet-on-10gw-ai
Bye
Mild Shock schrieb:
Hi,
Interestingly there is also now a top-ten
for AI data centers, not only super computers.
We are talking about newly built AI data centers
that for the first time go into giga watts:
The New World’s Largest AI Supercluster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxuSvyOwVCI
Some confirmed picks:
xAI Colossus Memphis
Phase 1 100000 xAI U.S. Confirmed
Tesla Cortex Phase 1 50000 Tesla U.S. Confirmed
Lawrence Livermore NL
El Capitan Phase 2 44143 U.S. Department of
Energy U.S. Confirmed
Anonymized Chinese
System 30000 N/A China Confirmed
Meta GenAI 2024a 24576 Meta AI U.S. Confirmed
Meta GenAI 2024b 24576 Meta AI U.S. Confirmed
Jupiter, Jülich 23536 EuroHPC JU,
Jülich Supercomputing
Center Germany Confirmed
Anonymized Chinese
System 20000 N/A China Confirmed
Anonymized Chinese
System 20000 N/A China Confirmed
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/the-worlds-most-powerful-ai-supercomputers/
Bye
Mild Shock schrieb:
In a Tibetan lamasery, the monks seek to
list all of the names of God. They believe
the Universe was created for this purpose,
and that once this naming is completed, God
will bring the Universe to an end. Three
centuries ago, the monks created an alphabet
in which they calculated they could encode
all the possible names of God, numbering
about 9,000,000,000 ("nine billion") and
each having no more than nine characters.
riting the names out by hand, as they had
been doing, even after eliminating various
nonsense combinations, would take another
15,000 years; the monks wish to use modern
technology to finish this task in 100 days.
They rent a computer capable of printing all
the possible permutations, and hire two
Westerners to install and program the machine.
The computer operators are skeptical but
play along. After three months, as the job
nears completion, they fear that the monks
will blame the computer (and, by extension,
its operators) when nothing happens. The
Westerners leave slightly earlier than their
scheduled departure without warning the monks,
so that it will complete its final print run
shortly after they leave. On their way to the
airfield they pause on the mountain path. Under
a clear night sky they es timate that it must be
just about the time that the monks are pasting
the final printed names into their holy books.
Then they notice that "overhead, without any
fuss, the stars were going out."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Billion_Names_of_God
"The Nine Billion Names of God" is a
1953 science fiction short story by
British writer Arthur C. Clarke. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Billion_Names_of_God
On 05.10.2025 00:52, Mild Shock wrote:
In a Tibetan lamasery, the monks seek to
list all of the names of God. They believe
the Universe was created for this purpose,
and that once this naming is completed, God
will bring the Universe to an end. Three
A very old story. I read it as a child.
Regards, WM
In a Tibetan lamasery, the monks seek to
list all of the names of God. They believe
the Universe was created for this purpose,
and that once this naming is completed, God
will bring the Universe to an end. Three
centuries ago, the monks created an alphabet
in which they calculated they could encode
all the possible names of God, numbering
about 9,000,000,000 ("nine billion") and
each having no more than nine characters.
riting the names out by hand, as they had
been doing, even after eliminating various
nonsense combinations, would take another
15,000 years; the monks wish to use modern
technology to finish this task in 100 days.
They rent a computer capable of printing all
the possible permutations, and hire two
Westerners to install and program the machine.
The computer operators are skeptical but
play along. After three months, as the job
nears completion, they fear that the monks
will blame the computer (and, by extension,
its operators) when nothing happens. The
Westerners leave slightly earlier than their
scheduled departure without warning the monks,
so that it will complete its final print run
shortly after they leave. On their way to the
airfield they pause on the mountain path. Under
a clear night sky they es timate that it must be
just about the time that the monks are pasting
the final printed names into their holy books.
Then they notice that "overhead, without any
fuss, the stars were going out."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Billion_Names_of_God
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people who love maths and we hope there’ll be
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following the code of conduct and the principle
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Administered by:
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On 03/12/2024 10:08 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:--- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
On 03/07/2024 08:09 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
On 02/29/2024 07:55 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
On 02/20/2024 07:47 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
About a "dedicated little OS" to run a "dedicated little service".
[... tons of gibberish ...]
Hi,
Try this server:
https://mathstodon.xyz/about?lang=en
It says:
Mathstodon.xyz is a Mastodon instance for
people who love maths. This instance is for
people who love maths and we hope there’ll be
lots of maths chat, but any topic of conversation
following the code of conduct and the principle
of getting along together is OK.
It also says:
Administered by:
Christian Lawson-Perfect
@christianp
Bye
P.S.: Sorry Julio Di Egidio, might push your Nazi
Retard buttons again. Mastodon was created and is
led by Eugen Rochko, a German software developer.
Ross Finlayson schrieb:
On 03/12/2024 10:08 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
On 03/07/2024 08:09 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
On 02/29/2024 07:55 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
On 02/20/2024 07:47 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
About a "dedicated little OS" to run a "dedicated little service".
[... tons of gibberish ...]
Hi,
So the Tibetan lamasery had it right,
the lights go out. There is a never ending
hunger for crunch? Even requiring USA
to go into domestic chip production:
America’s Most Advanced Chip Factory Yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VX3jNJmbcI
But chip production etc.. (embodied energy) is
only a fraction of the energy consumption:
Operational energy (running the data center
for 1 year at 1 GW) = 8,760 TWh Hardware
manufacturing energy = 0.75 TWh
So the energy to produce the hardware is
roughly 0.0085 (or 0.85%) of the annual
operational energy.
What are the projections? By 2030, global
power demand for data centers is projected to
reach approximately 220 GW, underscoring the
urgency and strategic importance of securing
power and hardware capacity:
$100B Bet on 10GW AI Infrastructure https://51ai.substack.com/p/openai-nvidia-100b-bet-on-10gw-ai
Bye
Mild Shock schrieb:
Hi,
Interestingly there is also now a top-ten
for AI data centers, not only super computers.
We are talking about newly built AI data centers
that for the first time go into giga watts:
The New World’s Largest AI Supercluster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxuSvyOwVCI
Some confirmed picks:
xAI Colossus Memphis
Phase 1 100000 xAI U.S. Confirmed
Tesla Cortex Phase 1 50000 Tesla U.S. Confirmed
Lawrence Livermore NL
El Capitan Phase 2 44143 U.S. Department of
Energy U.S. Confirmed
Anonymized Chinese
System 30000 N/A China Confirmed
Meta GenAI 2024a 24576 Meta AI U.S. Confirmed
Meta GenAI 2024b 24576 Meta AI U.S. Confirmed
Jupiter, Jülich 23536 EuroHPC JU,
Jülich Supercomputing
Center Germany Confirmed
Anonymized Chinese
System 20000 N/A China Confirmed
Anonymized Chinese
System 20000 N/A China Confirmed
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/the-worlds-most-powerful-ai-supercomputers/
Bye
Mild Shock schrieb:
In a Tibetan lamasery, the monks seek to
list all of the names of God. They believe
the Universe was created for this purpose,
and that once this naming is completed, God
will bring the Universe to an end. Three
centuries ago, the monks created an alphabet
in which they calculated they could encode
all the possible names of God, numbering
about 9,000,000,000 ("nine billion") and
each having no more than nine characters.
riting the names out by hand, as they had
been doing, even after eliminating various
nonsense combinations, would take another
15,000 years; the monks wish to use modern
technology to finish this task in 100 days.
They rent a computer capable of printing all
the possible permutations, and hire two
Westerners to install and program the machine.
The computer operators are skeptical but
play along. After three months, as the job
nears completion, they fear that the monks
will blame the computer (and, by extension,
its operators) when nothing happens. The
Westerners leave slightly earlier than their
scheduled departure without warning the monks,
so that it will complete its final print run
shortly after they leave. On their way to the
airfield they pause on the mountain path. Under
a clear night sky they es timate that it must be
just about the time that the monks are pasting
the final printed names into their holy books.
Then they notice that "overhead, without any
fuss, the stars were going out."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Billion_Names_of_God
Hi,--- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
Now that was a little unexpected that Intel beats AMD.
Could get my hands on two AI Laptops for testing.
The have both DDR5X Ram.
AI Laptop 1: Acer_Swift_SFG16-61
AMD Ryzen 7 350
Radeon Graphics
AMD Ryzen AI Boost, up to 50 TOPS
AI Laptop 2: LENOVO_83JQ
Intel Core Ultra 7 258V
Intel Arc Graphics 140V
Intel AI Boost, up to 47 TOPS
I couldn't test the AI Boost yet. Besides the nice
CPUs, the iGPU and the fast memory, in this case
32 GB, seem to give quite some bang:
Here some test with LMStudio, I picked the
model Qwen3 Coder 30B, with Q4_K_M encoding,
which is around 16 GB, and fits into my GPU memory: https://lmstudio.ai/models/qwen/qwen3-coder-30b
AI Laptop 1: 18 Tokens/s
AI Laptop 2: 6 Tokens/s
Now I am waiting for drivers and applications
that make use of the AI Boost. Will say
I only tested the iGPU, not yet the NPU.
For the donwload of the AI model it is
required to have fiber and WiFi 6, you can
then make it in less than a minute, even
if you are far away from the router.
Bye
P.S.: The 18 Tokens/s are quite fluid,
the 6 Tokens/s are a little annoying. But
on both machines I could converse with the
model, and go from primes to twin primes.
It didn't use any RAG, fully produce via
Local AI, also no remote AI access after
download of the AI Model:
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Here's a Prolog implementation to find
twin prime pairs (pairs of primes that differ by 2):
% Generate twin prime pairs up to N
twin_primes_up_to(N, TwinPairs) :-
findall((P, Q),
(between(3, N, P),
is_prime(P),
Q is P + 2,
is_prime(Q)),
TwinPairs).
% Check if a number is prime
is_prime(2) :- !.
is_prime(3) :- !.
is_prime(N) :-
N > 3,
N mod 2 =\= 0, % Even numbers > 2 are not prime
\+ has_factor(N, 3). % Check if N has any factors starting from 3
% Check if N has a factor starting from F
has_factor(N, F) :-
F * F =< N,
(N mod F =:= 0 ; has_factor(N, F + 2)).
Example usage:
?- twin_primes_up_to(20, Pairs).
Pairs = [(3, 5), (5, 7), (11, 13), (17, 19)].
?- twin_primes_up_to(50, Pairs).
Pairs = [(3, 5), (5, 7), (11, 13), (17, 19), (29, 31), (41, 43)].
This finds pairs of primes (P, Q) where Q = P + 2,
which are called twin primes. The findall/3 predicate
collects all such pairs where both P and P+2 are
prime numbers and P is less than or equal to N.
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The status of excluded middle vs. inverse--- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
The "sufficient and thorough reason" vs. traditional PSR
The "paleo-classical post-modern" character
The synthesis of traditions (Pythagorean, Cantorian, etc.)
The de-fragmentation claim
Then, since for example there's nothing funny about it,
I'm not interested in your plan of mal-journalism.
Furthermore all your sockpuppets are attached to
your identity.
Hi,
Come on old boy, why not try Local AI?
Elaborate your paleo stone throwing theory
with a Local AI (An AI Laptop and AI Models).
Actually I think they should train an AI
model on Archimedes Plutonium. And then
use it as a USENET AI Slob geberator.
An AI Slob generator that will be fed
with the newest news about Trump, Putin,
Math, etc.. in its conext window,
Instructed do give AP style reflections.
LoL
Bye
Ross Finlayson schrieb:
The status of excluded middle vs. inverse
The "sufficient and thorough reason" vs. traditional PSR
The "paleo-classical post-modern" character
The synthesis of traditions (Pythagorean, Cantorian, etc.)
The de-fragmentation claim
Hi,
If you take identity as E-mail address, which you
should see with a suitable news reader. I don't
use randomly generated E-mail adresses, or invalid
E-mail address. Its always the same E-mail adress.
At the time of Google+ it was maybe a different E-mail
address to access Google+. So its always the same
"identity". What changes is my nickname sometimes.
But not from post to post, I am not a nickname shapeshifter,
I only change it every decade or so. So you can take
your false accusations, and shove it up your ass.
Fucking paranoid moron you are.
Bye
Ross Finlayson schrieb:
Then, since for example there's nothing funny about it,
I'm not interested in your plan of mal-journalism.
Furthermore all your sockpuppets are attached to
your identity.
Mild Shock schrieb:
Hi,
Come on old boy, why not try Local AI?
Elaborate your paleo stone throwing theory
with a Local AI (An AI Laptop and AI Models).
Actually I think they should train an AI
model on Archimedes Plutonium. And then
use it as a USENET AI Slob geberator.
An AI Slob generator that will be fed
with the newest news about Trump, Putin,
Math, etc.. in its conext window,
Instructed do give AP style reflections.
LoL
Bye
Ross Finlayson schrieb:
The status of excluded middle vs. inverse
The "sufficient and thorough reason" vs. traditional PSR
The "paleo-classical post-modern" character
The synthesis of traditions (Pythagorean, Cantorian, etc.)
The de-fragmentation claim
I dunno. Was trying to find another story,
of a scientiest who studies the mind, and
then goes slowly crazy when he discovers
how the mind works. But what I posted
is a **Plot Summmary** of a short story:
"The Nine Billion Names of God" is a
1953 science fiction short story by
British writer Arthur C. Clarke. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Billion_Names_of_God
Maybe he used some existing Asian lore,
I don't know. Who is an expert in this matter?
WM schrieb:
On 05.10.2025 00:52, Mild Shock wrote:
In a Tibetan lamasery, the monks seek to
list all of the names of God. They believe
the Universe was created for this purpose,
and that once this naming is completed, God
will bring the Universe to an end. Three
A very old story. I read it as a child.
Regards, WM
Mild Shock schrieb:
In a Tibetan lamasery, the monks seek to
list all of the names of God. They believe
the Universe was created for this purpose,
and that once this naming is completed, God
will bring the Universe to an end. Three
centuries ago, the monks created an alphabet
in which they calculated they could encode
all the possible names of God, numbering
about 9,000,000,000 ("nine billion") and
each having no more than nine characters.
riting the names out by hand, as they had
been doing, even after eliminating various
nonsense combinations, would take another
15,000 years; the monks wish to use modern
technology to finish this task in 100 days.
They rent a computer capable of printing all
the possible permutations, and hire two
Westerners to install and program the machine.
The computer operators are skeptical but
play along. After three months, as the job
nears completion, they fear that the monks
will blame the computer (and, by extension,
its operators) when nothing happens. The
Westerners leave slightly earlier than their
scheduled departure without warning the monks,
so that it will complete its final print run
shortly after they leave. On their way to the
airfield they pause on the mountain path. Under
a clear night sky they es timate that it must be
just about the time that the monks are pasting
the final printed names into their holy books.
Then they notice that "overhead, without any
fuss, the stars were going out."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Billion_Names_of_God
Hi,
With RAG it could react on news. RAG (Retrieval-
Augmented Generation) and other techniques can
make a local AI evolve dynamically — both in knowledge
and personality. Lets say I put such a AI Persona in
a News Group loop. I could feedback the posts there,
to make it also evolve. One can collect community
reactions (upvotes, replies, sentiment). Or apply automatic
evaluation — e.g., sentiment analysis or engagement
score. This becomes your fitness function.
You can even run multiple personas in the same loop
Different viewpoints (e.g., “optimist”, “skeptic”,
“data scientist”) They interact and debate posts.
This is ideal for dead open source projects, such as
SWI-Prolog, to pretend user participation, very important
in our new marketing world that is totally
engagement focus. The quality(*) of content doesn't count.
LoL
Bye
(*) Same for research paper mills. BTW, ChatGPT suggests
me the following tech stack:
LLM: Ollama (LLaMA 3, Mistral, Gemma, etc.)
LangChain / LlamaIndex: context + memory
ChromaDB / SQLite: memory store
Feedparser / API client: ingest news or group posts
Transformers / VADER: sentiment scoring
Simple scheduler or cron job: to run the loop daily
Mild Shock schrieb:
I dunno. Was trying to find another story,
of a scientiest who studies the mind, and
then goes slowly crazy when he discovers
how the mind works. But what I posted
is a **Plot Summmary** of a short story:
"The Nine Billion Names of God" is a
1953 science fiction short story by
British writer Arthur C. Clarke.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Billion_Names_of_God
Maybe he used some existing Asian lore,
I don't know. Who is an expert in this matter?
WM schrieb:
On 05.10.2025 00:52, Mild Shock wrote:
;;
In a Tibetan lamasery, the monks seek to
list all of the names of God. They believe
the Universe was created for this purpose,
and that once this naming is completed, God
will bring the Universe to an end. Three
A very old story. I read it as a child.
;
Regards, WM
Mild Shock schrieb:
In a Tibetan lamasery, the monks seek to
list all of the names of God. They believe
the Universe was created for this purpose,
and that once this naming is completed, God
will bring the Universe to an end. Three
centuries ago, the monks created an alphabet
in which they calculated they could encode
all the possible names of God, numbering
about 9,000,000,000 ("nine billion") and
each having no more than nine characters.
riting the names out by hand, as they had
been doing, even after eliminating various
nonsense combinations, would take another
15,000 years; the monks wish to use modern
technology to finish this task in 100 days.
They rent a computer capable of printing all
the possible permutations, and hire two
Westerners to install and program the machine.
The computer operators are skeptical but
play along. After three months, as the job
nears completion, they fear that the monks
will blame the computer (and, by extension,
its operators) when nothing happens. The
Westerners leave slightly earlier than their
scheduled departure without warning the monks,
so that it will complete its final print run
shortly after they leave. On their way to the
airfield they pause on the mountain path. Under
a clear night sky they es timate that it must be
just about the time that the monks are pasting
the final printed names into their holy books.
Then they notice that "overhead, without any
fuss, the stars were going out."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Billion_Names_of_God
In a Tibetan lamasery, the monks seek to
list all of the names of God. They believe
the Universe was created for this purpose,
and that once this naming is completed, God
will bring the Universe to an end. Three
centuries ago, the monks created an alphabet
in which they calculated they could encode
all the possible names of God, numbering
about 9,000,000,000 ("nine billion") and
each having no more than nine characters.
riting the names out by hand, as they had
been doing, even after eliminating various
nonsense combinations, would take another
15,000 years; the monks wish to use modern
technology to finish this task in 100 days.
They rent a computer capable of printing all
the possible permutations, and hire two
Westerners to install and program the machine.
The computer operators are skeptical but
play along. After three months, as the job
nears completion, they fear that the monks
will blame the computer (and, by extension,
its operators) when nothing happens. The
Westerners leave slightly earlier than their
scheduled departure without warning the monks,
so that it will complete its final print run
shortly after they leave. On their way to the
airfield they pause on the mountain path. Under
a clear night sky they es timate that it must be
just about the time that the monks are pasting
the final printed names into their holy books.
Then they notice that "overhead, without any
fuss, the stars were going out."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Billion_Names_of_God
Hi,
Now I have the feeling we are minutes away
from robotic AI. Wondering why all the AI Laptops
have now GPUs with ray tracing hardware.
Combining LRM (Large Reasoning Models) with a
3D-Worlds modality could do the job. One could
use genetic algorithms to produce synthetic
training data. This might challenge the
connotation behind the holy grail of AI,
called "Embodiment":
"Der Schweizer Informatiker und Robotik-Experte
Rolf Pfeifer nimmt in diesem Kontext den
Standpunkt ein, dass Intelligenz ausschließlich
verkörperten Agenten, d. h. realen physischen
Systemen, deren Verhalten in der Interaktion
mit der Umwelt beobachtbar ist, zugeschrieben
werden kann.",
- How the body shapes the way we think. A new
view of intelligence, Pfeifer & Bongard, 2007
Bye
Mild Shock schrieb:
In a Tibetan lamasery, the monks seek to
list all of the names of God. They believe
the Universe was created for this purpose,
and that once this naming is completed, God
will bring the Universe to an end. Three
centuries ago, the monks created an alphabet
in which they calculated they could encode
all the possible names of God, numbering
about 9,000,000,000 ("nine billion") and
each having no more than nine characters.
riting the names out by hand, as they had
been doing, even after eliminating various
nonsense combinations, would take another
15,000 years; the monks wish to use modern
technology to finish this task in 100 days.
They rent a computer capable of printing all
the possible permutations, and hire two
Westerners to install and program the machine.
The computer operators are skeptical but
play along. After three months, as the job
nears completion, they fear that the monks
will blame the computer (and, by extension,
its operators) when nothing happens. The
Westerners leave slightly earlier than their
scheduled departure without warning the monks,
so that it will complete its final print run
shortly after they leave. On their way to the
airfield they pause on the mountain path. Under
a clear night sky they es timate that it must be
just about the time that the monks are pasting
the final printed names into their holy books.
Then they notice that "overhead, without any
fuss, the stars were going out."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Billion_Names_of_God
Hi,
There are quite some signs of LWM (Large World
Model) AI on the horizon. Like for example:
Controllable World Models are HERE
Explore a playable world model, Marble, from World Labs,
now available for free. This multimodal AI generates 3D
environments from various inputs, including text and images.
Users can navigate, edit, and export these worlds
in multiple formats.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QbM6_BSdS0
Grok 5 by Elon Musk — AGI Is Closer Than You Think
Musk's claim that Grok 5 has a "10% and rising" chance
of achieving AGI demands scrutiny. He's gone further,
stating "Grok 5 will be AGI or something indistinguishable
from AGI"—a prediction that would make it the first
system to achieve human-level general intelligence. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afsl4qUsfdw
Bye
Mild Shock schrieb:
Hi,
Now I have the feeling we are minutes away
from robotic AI. Wondering why all the AI Laptops
have now GPUs with ray tracing hardware.
Combining LRM (Large Reasoning Models) with a
3D-Worlds modality could do the job. One could
use genetic algorithms to produce synthetic
training data. This might challenge the
connotation behind the holy grail of AI,
called "Embodiment":
"Der Schweizer Informatiker und Robotik-Experte
Rolf Pfeifer nimmt in diesem Kontext den
Standpunkt ein, dass Intelligenz ausschließlich
verkörperten Agenten, d. h. realen physischen
Systemen, deren Verhalten in der Interaktion
mit der Umwelt beobachtbar ist, zugeschrieben
werden kann.",
- How the body shapes the way we think. A new
view of intelligence, Pfeifer & Bongard, 2007
Bye
Mild Shock schrieb:
In a Tibetan lamasery, the monks seek to
list all of the names of God. They believe
the Universe was created for this purpose,
and that once this naming is completed, God
will bring the Universe to an end. Three
centuries ago, the monks created an alphabet
in which they calculated they could encode
all the possible names of God, numbering
about 9,000,000,000 ("nine billion") and
each having no more than nine characters.
riting the names out by hand, as they had
been doing, even after eliminating various
nonsense combinations, would take another
15,000 years; the monks wish to use modern
technology to finish this task in 100 days.
They rent a computer capable of printing all
the possible permutations, and hire two
Westerners to install and program the machine.
The computer operators are skeptical but
play along. After three months, as the job
nears completion, they fear that the monks
will blame the computer (and, by extension,
its operators) when nothing happens. The
Westerners leave slightly earlier than their
scheduled departure without warning the monks,
so that it will complete its final print run
shortly after they leave. On their way to the
airfield they pause on the mountain path. Under
a clear night sky they es timate that it must be
just about the time that the monks are pasting
the final printed names into their holy books.
Then they notice that "overhead, without any
fuss, the stars were going out."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Billion_Names_of_God
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