• newsreader where you can see the message source (Was: What if of thecosmos does a BB dance?)

    From Mild Shock@janburse@fastmail.fm to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,comp.lang.prolog on Tue Dec 2 00:00:12 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.prolog

    Hi,

    Don't you have a newsreader where you can
    see the message source. You don't need more
    information than Mild Shock in the message

    body, you see everything in the message
    headers. For example I see in your message:

    From: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
    Injection-Info: gwaiyur.mb-net.net; logging-data="2349822"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@open-news-network.org"

    So you posted from INWX GmbH? Still you
    give advice how to format a USENET post, even
    you are not able to see the message source,

    of my posts? You can easily read off who I am.
    Maybe get a decend news reader before you give
    advice how to post.

    Fucking 5 year old imbecil, get lost in your kindergarden.

    Bye

    Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn schrieb:
    Mild Shock wrote:
    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Please repair this.

    Subject: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance? (Was: Its a subconscious
    hypothesis)

    The correct way to change the Subject is "... (was: ...)". Then some newsreaders can automatically remove the " (was: ...)" part on composing a follow-up.

    What if the planets in certain galaxies
    form a turning machine.

    They do not.

    You appear to be very confused about the applicability of computer science
    to natural science.

    Also, you should learn how to post. This was a completely new question, so you should not have posted it as a follow-up. Also, you should not have top-posted, i.e. you should not have appended the full quotation of the previous postings; such is maybe appropriate in business communication, but not in Usenet. It is also not appropriate to crosspost without Followup-To to *one* newsgroup set.

    I strongly suggest that you subscribe to news:news.announce.newusers, or consult Usenet posting guidelines on the Web to educate yourself about
    the communication medium that you are using here. Lest you be killfiled rather quickly by people.

    Could Keppler

    Johannes _Kepler_

    have modelled a 3 planet system.

    Yes, he did, but not exactly.

    Can we model a 3 planet system now ?

    Obviously; there are simulations of the Sol System e.g. in Universe Sandbox.
    But the 3-body-problem is not about 3 planets, but more general.

    There is no *general* *exact* solution to this problem; just a solution for the *restricted* 3-body-problem in which one of the objects has a very large mass; the second object, e.g. a gas giant like Jupiter, has a smaller mass and is very far away from the first object; and the third object. e.g. an asteroid, has a small that is small enough to be negligible, and is comparably far away from the first and second object, respectively.

    And this is neglecting general-relativistic corrections that lead to an additional contribution in the precession of the perihelia (orbits are not actually ellipses, closed curves).

    F'up2 sci.physics


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  • From Python@python@cccp.invalid to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,comp.lang.prolog on Tue Dec 2 03:10:29 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.prolog

    Le 02/12/2025 à 00:00, Mild Shock a écrit :
    Hi,

    Don't you have a newsreader where you can
    see the message source. You don't need more
    information than Mild Shock in the message

    body, you see everything in the message
    headers. For example I see in your message:

    From: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
    Injection-Info: gwaiyur.mb-net.net; logging-data="2349822"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@open-news-network.org"

    So you posted from INWX GmbH? Still you
    give advice how to format a USENET post, even
    you are not able to see the message source,

    of my posts? You can easily read off who I am.
    Maybe get a decend news reader before you give
    advice how to post.

    Fucking 5 year old imbecil, get lost in your kindergarden.

    Bye

    Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn schrieb:
    Mild Shock wrote:
    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Please repair this.

    Subject: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance? (Was: Its a subconscious
    hypothesis)

    The correct way to change the Subject is "... (was: ...)". Then some
    newsreaders can automatically remove the " (was: ...)" part on composing a >> follow-up.

    What if the planets in certain galaxies
    form a turning machine.

    They do not.

    You appear to be very confused about the applicability of computer science >> to natural science.

    Also, you should learn how to post. This was a completely new question, so >> you should not have posted it as a follow-up. Also, you should not have
    top-posted, i.e. you should not have appended the full quotation of the
    previous postings; such is maybe appropriate in business communication, but >> not in Usenet. It is also not appropriate to crosspost without Followup-To >> to *one* newsgroup set.

    I strongly suggest that you subscribe to news:news.announce.newusers, or
    consult Usenet posting guidelines on the Web to educate yourself about
    the communication medium that you are using here. Lest you be killfiled
    rather quickly by people.

    Could Keppler

    Johannes _Kepler_

    have modelled a 3 planet system.

    Yes, he did, but not exactly.

    Can we model a 3 planet system now ?

    Obviously; there are simulations of the Sol System e.g. in Universe Sandbox. >> But the 3-body-problem is not about 3 planets, but more general.

    There is no *general* *exact* solution to this problem; just a solution for >> the *restricted* 3-body-problem in which one of the objects has a very large >> mass; the second object, e.g. a gas giant like Jupiter, has a smaller mass >> and is very far away from the first object; and the third object. e.g. an
    asteroid, has a small that is small enough to be negligible, and is
    comparably far away from the first and second object, respectively.

    And this is neglecting general-relativistic corrections that lead to an
    additional contribution in the precession of the perihelia (orbits are not >> actually ellipses, closed curves).

    F'up2 sci.physics


    you're not going well, right?


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  • From Mild Shock@janburse@fastmail.fm to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,comp.lang.prolog on Tue Dec 2 11:51:16 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.prolog


    And here comes the next oneliner imbecil.
    I wish the USENET was like 10 years ago,
    where there were veritable cranks and trolls,

    that wrote 2-3 page essays, that were interesting
    and challenge to respond. Now its all autism,
    and inquisitory questions. Everybody has his

    brain amputated and fears making expositions.

    So get lost, fuck yourself annonying moron.

    Python schrieb:
    you're not going well, right?

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  • From Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn@PointedEars@web.de to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,comp.lang.prolog on Tue Dec 2 20:35:33 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.prolog

    Mild Shock wrote:
    Don't you have a newsreader where you can see the message source.

    I do. In fact, I happen to use one of the same family of newsreaders as
    you, if the User-Agent header field of your messages is not forged.

    You don't need more information than Mild Shock in the message

    Wrong. Politeness suggests that one introduces oneself to strangers by
    telling them one's real name. This is Usenet, not a chat group.

    body, you see everything in the message headers.

    You should try that next time before you complain:

    Followup-To poster *again*

    [top post]

    *facepalm*
    --
    PointedEars

    Twitter: @PointedEars2
    Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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  • From Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn@PointedEars@web.de to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,comp.lang.prolog on Tue Dec 2 20:36:37 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.prolog

    Mild Shock wrote:
    And here comes the next oneliner imbecil.
    I wish the USENET was like 10 years ago,
    where there were veritable cranks and trolls,

    that wrote 2-3 page essays, that were interesting
    and challenge to respond. Now its all autism,
    and inquisitory questions. Everybody has his

    brain amputated and fears making expositions.

    So get lost, fuck yourself annonying moron.

    *PLONK*
    --
    PointedEars

    Twitter: @PointedEars2
    Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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  • From Mild Shock@janburse@fastmail.fm to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,comp.lang.prolog on Tue Dec 2 23:22:22 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.prolog

    Hi,

    Since I am top posting, and not interleaved posting,
    and hence not responding to your gibberish. What makes
    you think I am interested in your gibberish?

    Could you explain yourself?

    Bye

    Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn schrieb:
    Mild Shock wrote:
    Don't you have a newsreader where you can see the message source.

    I do. In fact, I happen to use one of the same family of newsreaders as
    you, if the User-Agent header field of your messages is not forged.

    You don't need more information than Mild Shock in the message

    Wrong. Politeness suggests that one introduces oneself to strangers by telling them one's real name. This is Usenet, not a chat group.

    body, you see everything in the message headers.

    You should try that next time before you complain:

    Followup-To poster *again*

    [top post]

    *facepalm*


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  • From Mild Shock@janburse@fastmail.fm to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,comp.lang.prolog on Tue Dec 2 23:28:51 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.prolog

    Hi,

    de.sci.mathematik has an interesting thread
    "Wirres Mückengelaber" . Ist Spock aka
    Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn the equivalent

    of Prof. Mückeheim, only in sci.physics.relativity.

    Could be, who knows? Do you need some medication...

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Since I am top posting, and not interleaved posting,
    and hence not responding to your gibberish. What makes
    you think I am interested in your gibberish?

    Could you explain yourself?

    Bye

    Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn schrieb:
    Mild Shock wrote:
    Don't you have a newsreader where you can see the message source.

    I do.  In fact, I happen to use one of the same family of newsreaders as
    you, if the User-Agent header field of your messages is not forged.

    You don't need more information than Mild Shock in the message

    Wrong.  Politeness suggests that one introduces oneself to strangers by
    telling them one's real name.  This is Usenet, not a chat group.

    body, you see everything in the message headers.

    You should try that next time before you complain:

    Followup-To poster *again*

    [top post]

    *facepalm*



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  • From Mild Shock@janburse@fastmail.fm to sci.physics.relativity,comp.theory,comp.lang.prolog on Tue Dec 2 23:29:33 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.prolog

    Hi,

    de.sci.mathematik has an interesting thread
    "Wirres Mückengelaber" . Ist Spock aka
    Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn the equivalent

    of Prof. Mückeheim, only in sci.physics.relativity.

    Could be, who knows? Do you need some medication...

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Since I am top posting, and not interleaved posting,
    and hence not responding to your gibberish. What makes
    you think I am interested in your gibberish?

    Could you explain yourself?

    Bye

    Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn schrieb:
    Mild Shock wrote:
    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Your *real* name should be found there.

    Which part of "please do not crosspost mindlessly"

    The part that your message header contains a crossposting:

    From: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
    Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,comp.theory,sci.physics
    Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2025 23:23:24 +0100
    Organization: PointedEars Software (PES)
    Maybe get a decend news reader before you give advice how to post.

    It was a crosspost _deliberately with Followup-To set_ *in order to
    contain
    your crosspost*:

    | Followup-To: poster

    That is why your newsreader

    User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:128.0)
    Gecko/20100101 Firefox/128.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.22

    told you that I ask for replies by private e-mail.  Your ignoring that
    is a
    violation of Netiquette.

    Fucking 5 year old imbecil, get lost in your kindergarden.
    I have been using Usenet for more than 3 decades now.

    But the September never ends...  So just "Score adjusted" for now:

    <http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#not_losing>

    F'up2 poster again



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  • From Ross Finlayson@ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,comp.lang.prolog on Mon Dec 1 21:42:58 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.prolog

    On 12/01/2025 07:10 PM, Python wrote:
    Le 02/12/2025 à 00:00, Mild Shock a écrit :
    Hi,

    Don't you have a newsreader where you can
    see the message source. You don't need more
    information than Mild Shock in the message

    body, you see everything in the message
    headers. For example I see in your message:

    From: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
    Injection-Info: gwaiyur.mb-net.net; logging-data="2349822";
    mail-complaints-to="abuse@open-news-network.org"

    So you posted from INWX GmbH? Still you
    give advice how to format a USENET post, even
    you are not able to see the message source,

    of my posts? You can easily read off who I am.
    Maybe get a decend news reader before you give
    advice how to post.

    Fucking 5 year old imbecil, get lost in your kindergarden.

    Bye

    Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn schrieb:
    Mild Shock wrote:
    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Please repair this.

    Subject: What if of the cosmos does a BB dance? (Was: Its a
    subconscious
    hypothesis)

    The correct way to change the Subject is "... (was: ...)". Then some
    newsreaders can automatically remove the " (was: ...)" part on
    composing a
    follow-up.

    What if the planets in certain galaxies
    form a turning machine.

    They do not.

    You appear to be very confused about the applicability of computer
    science
    to natural science.

    Also, you should learn how to post. This was a completely new
    question, so
    you should not have posted it as a follow-up. Also, you should not have >>> top-posted, i.e. you should not have appended the full quotation of the
    previous postings; such is maybe appropriate in business
    communication, but
    not in Usenet. It is also not appropriate to crosspost without
    Followup-To
    to *one* newsgroup set.

    I strongly suggest that you subscribe to news:news.announce.newusers, or >>> consult Usenet posting guidelines on the Web to educate yourself about
    the communication medium that you are using here. Lest you be killfiled >>> rather quickly by people.

    Could Keppler

    Johannes _Kepler_

    have modelled a 3 planet system.

    Yes, he did, but not exactly.

    Can we model a 3 planet system now ?

    Obviously; there are simulations of the Sol System e.g. in Universe
    Sandbox.
    But the 3-body-problem is not about 3 planets, but more general.

    There is no *general* *exact* solution to this problem; just a
    solution for
    the *restricted* 3-body-problem in which one of the objects has a
    very large
    mass; the second object, e.g. a gas giant like Jupiter, has a smaller
    mass
    and is very far away from the first object; and the third object.
    e.g. an
    asteroid, has a small that is small enough to be negligible, and is
    comparably far away from the first and second object, respectively.

    And this is neglecting general-relativistic corrections that lead to an
    additional contribution in the precession of the perihelia (orbits
    are not
    actually ellipses, closed curves).

    F'up2 sci.physics


    you're not going well, right?



    Perhaps we might ascribe it to typical brattiness, ....

    That said I enjoy Lahn so it's of peripheral interest
    notions like Kepler's banishment of epicycles and as
    after about Bode's law then as for inverse square the
    Keplerian geometric way then that the Newtonian "System
    of the World" after the Keplerian "System of the World"
    or Harmonisches Mundi after the Muslim "System of the
    Heavens" and that, that, in the solar system today,
    the force vector of gravity always points at the
    source not the image, so, it's quite Newtonian and
    even Galilean the current state of the solar system,
    while it is yet so that space-contraction-linear and space-contraction-rotational are in effect, as with
    regards to a notion like "fall-gravity" of course.


    I.e., Einstein's later "attack on Newton" is a matter
    of mechanics itself as much as about relativity and
    mass-energy-equivalency, getting into why the gyroscopic
    effects as of the kinematic up after "pseudo"-momentum
    and the space-contraction-rotational, has that Einstein's
    second and much-less-well-known mass-energy-equivalency
    derivation, about the centrally symmetric, helps establish
    the concern overall as, "un-linear", for a potentialistic
    theory and sum-of-potentials and revisiting the Lagrangian
    the severe abstraction the mechanical reduction.

    I don't even mind Python/Messager, ....


    The pettiness, ..., the brattiness, ....

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  • From Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn@PointedEars@web.de to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,comp.lang.prolog on Thu Dec 4 03:29:08 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.prolog

    Ross Finlayson wrote:
    notions like Kepler's banishment of epicycles and as
    after about Bode's law

    The _Titius–Bode_ law (1766/1772) was proposed much later than Kepler (16th century), obviously. And to date nobody understands why it approximately
    works for the Sol System:

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titius–Bode_law>

    then as for inverse square the Keplerian geometric way

    Yes, Kepler's idea was that the "harmonics of the world" would be
    represented by inscribed Platonic solids to determine the distances between
    the orbits of the Planets. However, he was scientist enough to accept eventually that, given Tycho Brahe's detailed observations, the circular
    orbits that resulted from that would not work: ellipses were required.

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannes_Kepler#Astronomy>

    then that the Newtonian "System of the World" after
    the Keplerian "System of the World" or Harmonisches Mundi

    _/harmonices mundi/_ (Latin for "_harmonics_ of the world")

    after the Muslim "System of the Heavens"

    Doubtful. Kepler was a devout Christian who sought to discover/understand "God's design of the Universe".

    and that, that, in the solar system today,
    the force vector of gravity always points at the
    source not the image,

    What is that supposed to mean?

    so, it's quite Newtonian

    Only approximately, and that is where General Relativity fills the gap in
    our understanding. So far, only GR can explain, and predict very precisely, the additional motion of the perihelion of orbits as, 200 years after
    Newton, eventually become measurable with the orbit of Mercury.

    and even Galilean the current state of the solar system,

    No.

    while it is yet so that space-contraction-linear and space-contraction-rotational are in effect,

    Nonsense.

    as with regards to a notion like "fall-gravity" of course.

    I.e., Einstein's later "attack on Newton" is a matter
    of mechanics itself as much as about relativity and
    mass-energy-equivalency, getting into why the gyroscopic
    effects as of the kinematic up after "pseudo"-momentum
    and the space-contraction-rotational, has that Einstein's
    second and much-less-well-known mass-energy-equivalency
    derivation, about the centrally symmetric, helps establish
    the concern overall as, "un-linear", for a potentialistic
    theory and sum-of-potentials and revisiting the Lagrangian
    the severe abstraction the mechanical reduction.

    Pseudo-scientific word salad.

    Sadly, your mind is still very confused.

    F'up2 sci.physics.relativity
    --
    PointedEars

    Twitter: @PointedEars2
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  • From Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn@PointedEars@web.de to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,comp.lang.prolog on Thu Dec 4 03:30:19 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.prolog

    Ross Finlayson wrote:
    notions like Kepler's banishment of epicycles and as
    after about Bode's law

    The _Titius–Bode_ law (1766/1772) was proposed much later than Kepler (16th century), obviously. And to date nobody understands why it approximately
    works for the Sol System:

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titius–Bode_law>

    then as for inverse square the Keplerian geometric way

    Yes, Kepler's idea was that the "harmonics of the world" would be
    represented by inscribed Platonic solids to determine the distances between
    the orbits of the Planets. However, he was scientist enough to accept eventually that, given Tycho Brahe's detailed observations, the circular
    orbits that resulted from that would not work: ellipses were required.

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannes_Kepler#Astronomy>

    then that the Newtonian "System of the World" after
    the Keplerian "System of the World" or Harmonisches Mundi

    _/harmonices mundi/_ (Latin for "_harmonics_ of the world")

    after the Muslim "System of the Heavens"

    Doubtful. Kepler was a devout Christian who sought to discover/understand "God's design of the Universe".

    and that, that, in the solar system today,
    the force vector of gravity always points at the
    source not the image,

    What is that supposed to mean?

    so, it's quite Newtonian

    Only approximately, and that is where General Relativity fills the gap in
    our understanding. So far, only GR can explain, and predict very precisely, the additional motion of the perihelion of orbits as, 200 years after
    Newton, eventually became measurable with the orbit of Mercury.

    and even Galilean the current state of the solar system,

    No.

    while it is yet so that space-contraction-linear and space-contraction-rotational are in effect,

    Nonsense.

    as with regards to a notion like "fall-gravity" of course.

    I.e., Einstein's later "attack on Newton" is a matter
    of mechanics itself as much as about relativity and
    mass-energy-equivalency, getting into why the gyroscopic
    effects as of the kinematic up after "pseudo"-momentum
    and the space-contraction-rotational, has that Einstein's
    second and much-less-well-known mass-energy-equivalency
    derivation, about the centrally symmetric, helps establish
    the concern overall as, "un-linear", for a potentialistic
    theory and sum-of-potentials and revisiting the Lagrangian
    the severe abstraction the mechanical reduction.

    Pseudo-scientific word salad.

    Sadly, your mind is still very confused.

    F'up2 sci.physics.relativity
    --
    PointedEars

    Twitter: @PointedEars2
    Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
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