• Ummm ... US Govt Planning to "Nationalize" Intel

    From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to comp.os.linux.misc on Wed Aug 20 01:42:22 2025
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    It's all part of the 're-patriation'/security
    mindset - and not necessarily wrong.

    Intel DOES have good engineers ... BUT almost
    all of its physical ops were moved to Taiwan -
    which remains in imminent danger of abrupt
    CCP take-over by nasty means.

    Real world SUCKS eh ???

    Intel is no longer the greatest company,
    others seem to have more verve, more
    creativity. However Intel product is
    still very "solid" and you'll find it
    in most PCs/Servers. NOT something you
    can abandon.

    Me, I still intentionally buy units with
    Intel processors. They are the "standard".
    Some love AMD ... they're pretty good too.

    I DO remember an old vid of someone pulling
    the heat-sink off an AMD ... and the SMOKE
    coming out ten seconds later :-)

    Maybe not true NOW, but ... prejudices
    are easy to make and hard to dispel,

    SOME ultra-capitalists have been on TV
    bitching about the govt investment.
    Said that Intel should be sold for car
    parts - crap, obsolete.

    No, Intel stuff IS still "pretty good".

    WORST world outcome - short of Global
    Thermonuclear War - the 'west'/USA
    really WILL need competent LOCAL chip
    designers/makers.

    So, pick and act NOW - before it's Too Late.

    And IF I buy another mini-box/lap anytime
    soon, I WILL still go with an Intel CPU.
    Still have TWO spares right now ... one
    dedicated to nothing and one in the box
    (with Win-11 by default). But, near future,
    ya never know. HAVE used AMDs and they're
    GOOD ... but .........
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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc on Wed Aug 20 12:13:23 2025
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    On 2025-08-20 07:42, c186282 wrote:
    It's all part of the 're-patriation'/security
    mindset - and not necessarily wrong.

    Intel DOES have good engineers ... BUT almost
    all of its physical ops were moved to Taiwan -
    which remains in imminent danger of abrupt
    CCP take-over by nasty means.

    Real world SUCKS eh ???

    Intel is no longer the greatest company,
    others seem to have more verve, more
    creativity. However Intel product is
    still very "solid" and you'll find it
    in most PCs/Servers. NOT something you
    can abandon.

    Me, I still intentionally buy units with
    Intel processors. They are the "standard".
    Some love AMD ... they're pretty good too.

    I DO remember an old vid of someone pulling
    the heat-sink off an AMD ... and the SMOKE
    coming out ten seconds laterĀ  :-)

    Maybe not true NOW, but ... prejudices
    are easy to make and hard to dispel,

    That is very ancient history. After that, it was Intel who followed AMD
    in the 64 bit processor, not the reverse. And more recently, we have the plethora of security bugs in Intel.

    Impacting me directly, I suffer bugs in Intel video, which I was told
    the Intel developers know about but refuse to correct.
    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
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  • From rbowman@bowman@montana.com to comp.os.linux.misc on Wed Aug 20 18:28:15 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc

    On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 01:42:22 -0400, c186282 wrote:

    And IF I buy another mini-box/lap anytime soon, I WILL still go with an
    Intel CPU. Still have TWO spares right now ... one dedicated to nothing
    and one in the box (with Win-11 by default). But, near future,
    ya never know. HAVE used AMDs and they're GOOD ... but .........

    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/08/ars-technica-system-guide-back-to- pc-building-for-back-to-school/

    I haven't been keeping up so I don't know what Intel's current socket selections are but he claims AM5 is more future-proof. AM4 lasted almost
    10 years and you can still get processors. LGA 1200 was quickly followed
    by LGA 1700 and now LGA 1851.

    My Intel box has a LGA 1150, which had a pretty good run. It was followed
    by LGA 1151. I'm curious what the extra pin was for.

    I keep looking at the Antec case under the bench and thinking I should do
    a build. but it's huge with those big drive bays that would need to be
    adapted down. It was designed for a ATX mobo but I never did use all the slots. A microATX would do.

    Then I'd have another box and could install the vastly superior Mint
    Linux. Only fooling -- I'd probably go for Leap.
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