• Banning Social Media For Under-16s

    From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Thu May 15 07:22:18 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    Australia has put in place a law to ban access to social media for
    under-16s, and New Zealand is looking to follow suit. Here is an
    interview, by Samantha Hayes of Stuff, of the “Premier” (as the
    Aussies insist on calling the state Chief Ministers in their
    Federation -- don’t they know that “Premier” is shortened journalese
    for “Prime Minister”?) of South Australia, Peter Malinauskas, the instigator of the Aussie law <https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360690772/one-thing-architect-australias-social-media-ban-under-16s-would-do-differently>.

    One of our local pro-right-wing-wannabe parties insists the law would
    be “unworkable”. Yes, Malinauskas admits that bans on underage
    smoking, drinking and now social media are never 100% effective. But
    they greatly reduce the incidence of the activity, and that is what
    leads to harm reduction.

    Certainly, relying on the social media companies to police themselves
    is never going to work. Because if it had worked, we would have seen
    the results, after more than 20 years of their activities. The fact
    that things are, if anything, worse now than when they started, shows
    the uselessness of trusting them.
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Thu May 15 17:36:53 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote
    Australia has put in place a law to ban accessto social media for > under-16s,
    And it remains to be seen how enforceable that is.
    No chance in reality
    and New Zealand is looking to follow suit. Here is an
    interview, by Samantha Hayes of Stuff, of the “Premier” (as the
    Aussies insist on calling the state Chief Ministers in their
    Federation -- don’t they know that “Premier” is shortened journalese for “Prime Minister”?) of South Australia, Peter Malinauskas, the instigator of the Aussie law <https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360690772/one-thing-architect-australias-social-media-ban-under-16s-would-do-differently>.
    One of our local pro-right-wing-wannabe parties insists the law would
    be “unworkable”.
    Corse it is
    Yes, Malinauskas admits that bans on underage
    smoking, drinking and now social media are never 100% effective. But
    they greatly reduce the incidence of the activity, and that is what
    leads to harm reduction.
    That last remains to be seen
    Certainly, relying on the social media companies to police themselves
    is never going to work.
    Just as true of the ban
    Because if it had worked, we would have seen
    the results, after more than 20 years of their activities. The fact
    that things are, if anything, worse now than when they started, shows
    the uselessness of trusting them.
    The ban is even more useless
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Thu May 15 19:44:10 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Thu, 15 May 2025 17:36:53 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote

    Australia has put in place a law to ban accessto social media for
    under-16s,

    And it remains to be seen how enforceable that is.

    No chance in reality

    and New Zealand is looking to follow suit. Here is an
    interview, by Samantha Hayes of Stuff, of the Premier (as the
    Aussies insist on calling the state Chief Ministers in their
    Federation -- dont they know that Premier is shortened journalese
    for Prime Minister?) of South Australia, Peter Malinauskas, the
    instigator of the Aussie law
    <https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360690772/one-thing-architect-australias-social-media-ban-under-16s-would-do-differently>.

    One of our local pro-right-wing-wannabe parties insists the law would
    be unworkable.

    Corse it is

    Yes, Malinauskas admits that bans on underage
    smoking, drinking and now social media are never 100% effective. But
    they greatly reduce the incidence of the activity, and that is what
    leads to harm reduction.

    That last remains to be seen

    Certainly, relying on the social media companies to police themselves
    is never going to work.

    Just as true of the ban

    Because if it had worked, we would have seen
    the results, after more than 20 years of their activities. The fact
    that things are, if anything, worse now than when they started, shows
    the uselessness of trusting them.

    The ban is even more useless

    Years ago one had to have a card for adult sites, it failed
    These snout and trotters in trough just rehashing what failed in past
    --
    Petzl
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  • From Richmond@dnomhcir@gmx.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Thu May 15 13:15:06 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> writes:

    On Thu, 15 May 2025 17:36:53 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote

    Australia has put in place a law to ban accessto social media for
    under-16s,

    And it remains to be seen how enforceable that is.

    No chance in reality

    and New Zealand is looking to follow suit. Here is an interview, by
    Samantha Hayes of Stuff, of the “Premier” (as the Aussies insist on
    calling the state Chief Ministers in their Federation -- don’t they
    know that “Premier” is shortened journalese for “Prime Minister”?) >>> of South Australia, Peter Malinauskas, the instigator of the Aussie
    law
    <https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360690772/one-thing-architect-australias-social-media-ban-under-16s-would-do-differently>.

    One of our local pro-right-wing-wannabe parties insists the law
    would be “unworkable”.

    Corse it is

    Yes, Malinauskas admits that bans on underage smoking, drinking and
    now social media are never 100% effective. But they greatly reduce
    the incidence of the activity, and that is what leads to harm
    reduction.

    That last remains to be seen

    Certainly, relying on the social media companies to police
    themselves is never going to work.

    Just as true of the ban

    Because if it had worked, we would have seen the results, after more
    than 20 years of their activities. The fact that things are, if
    anything, worse now than when they started, shows the uselessness of
    trusting them.

    The ban is even more useless

    Years ago one had to have a card for adult sites, it failed These
    snout and trotters in trough just rehashing what failed in past

    It is more likely to be about pointing the finger of blame than
    achieving anything. Once there is a law requiring social media companies
    to ban, the government can say it is their fault for not doing it.
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Fri May 16 01:42:01 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Thu, 15 May 2025 19:44:10 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 17:36:53 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote

    Australia has put in place a law to ban accessto social media for
    under-16s,

    And it remains to be seen how enforceable that is.

    No chance in reality

    and New Zealand is looking to follow suit. Here is an
    interview, by Samantha Hayes of Stuff, of the “Premier” (as the
    Aussies insist on calling the state Chief Ministers in their
    Federation -- don’t they know that “Premier” is shortened journalese >>> for “Prime Minister”?) of South Australia, Peter Malinauskas, the
    instigator of the Aussie law
    <https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360690772/one-thing-architect-australias-social-media-ban-under-16s-would-do-differently>.

    One of our local pro-right-wing-wannabe parties insists the law would
    be “unworkable”.

    Corse it is

    Yes, Malinauskas admits that bans on underage
    smoking, drinking and now social media are never 100% effective. But>>> they greatly reduce the incidence of the activity, and that is what
    leads to harm reduction.

    That last remains to be seen

    Certainly, relying on the social media companies to police themselves
    is never going to work.

    Just as true of the ban

    Because if it had worked, we would have seen
    the results, after more than 20 years of their activities. The fact
    that things are, if anything, worse now than when they started, shows
    the uselessness of trusting them.

    The ban is even more useless
    Years ago one had to have a card for adult sites,
    Fantasy
    it failed
    These snout and trotters in trough just rehashing what failed in past
    No one is proposing a card and what they are proposing
    is the whole of social media, not just adult sites.
    And its never going to work given that any kid can just use
    someone else's account
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Fri May 16 07:17:32 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Fri, 16 May 2025 01:42:01 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thu, 15 May 2025 19:44:10 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thu, 15 May 2025 17:36:53 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote

    Australia has put in place a law to ban accessto social media for
    under-16s,

    And it remains to be seen how enforceable that is.

    No chance in reality

    and New Zealand is looking to follow suit. Here is an
    interview, by Samantha Hayes of Stuff, of the Premier (as the
    Aussies insist on calling the state Chief Ministers in their
    Federation -- dont they know that Premier is shortened journalese
    for Prime Minister?) of South Australia, Peter Malinauskas, the
    instigator of the Aussie law
    <https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360690772/one-thing-architect-australias-social-media-ban-under-16s-would-do-differently>.

    One of our local pro-right-wing-wannabe parties insists the law would
    be unworkable.

    Corse it is

    Yes, Malinauskas admits that bans on underage
    smoking, drinking and now social media are never 100% effective. But
    they greatly reduce the incidence of the activity, and that is what
    leads to harm reduction.

    That last remains to be seen

    Certainly, relying on the social media companies to police themselves
    is never going to work.

    Just as true of the ban

    Because if it had worked, we would have seen
    the results, after more than 20 years of their activities. The fact
    that things are, if anything, worse now than when they started, shows
    the uselessness of trusting them.

    The ban is even more useless

    Years ago one had to have a card for adult sites,

    Fantasy

    AI Overview

    In the past, some internet adult sites did require users to have a
    physical card, like a credit card or a specific "adult ID card," to
    access their content. These methods were used to verify that the user
    was of legal age. However, this practice has largely been replaced by
    other methods of age verification, such as credit card or financial verification, or the use of government-issued IDs.
    Here's a more detailed look at the historical practice and its
    evolution:
    Physical ID Cards:
    Some adult sites used to require users to have a physical card, like a
    credit card or a specifically issued "adult ID card," to verify their
    age. These cards were often used as a way to ensure that users were of
    legal age to access the site's content.
    Evolution of Age Verification:
    Over time, the need for a physical card has largely been replaced by
    other methods of age verification.
    Modern Methods:
    Current age verification methods include:
    Government-issued IDs: Users may be required to upload a photo of
    their driver's license or other government-issued ID.
    Credit Card or Financial Verification: Sites may verify age through
    credit card information, assuming that only adults are likely to
    possess a valid card.
    Facial Age Estimation: Some sites use facial age estimation technology
    to estimate a user's age based on their facial features.
    Digital Licenses: Some states now have digital driver's license apps
    that can be used to verify age online.

    it failed

    These snout and trotters in trough just rehashing what failed in past

    No one is proposing a card and what they are proposing
    is the whole of social media, not just adult sites.


    Fantasy Australia does not have any socail media sites AFAIK

    And its never going to work given that any kid can just use
    someone else's account
    --
    Petzl
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Fri May 16 07:51:05 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Thu, 15 May 2025 13:15:06 +0100, Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> writes:

    On Thu, 15 May 2025 17:36:53 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote

    Australia has put in place a law to ban accessto social media for
    under-16s,

    And it remains to be seen how enforceable that is.

    No chance in reality

    and New Zealand is looking to follow suit. Here is an interview, by
    Samantha Hayes of Stuff, of the Premier (as the Aussies insist on
    calling the state Chief Ministers in their Federation -- dont they
    know that Premier is shortened journalese for Prime Minister?)
    of South Australia, Peter Malinauskas, the instigator of the Aussie
    law
    <https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360690772/one-thing-architect-australias-social-media-ban-under-16s-would-do-differently>.

    One of our local pro-right-wing-wannabe parties insists the law
    would be unworkable.

    Corse it is

    Yes, Malinauskas admits that bans on underage smoking, drinking and
    now social media are never 100% effective. But they greatly reduce
    the incidence of the activity, and that is what leads to harm
    reduction.

    That last remains to be seen

    Certainly, relying on the social media companies to police
    themselves is never going to work.

    Just as true of the ban

    Because if it had worked, we would have seen the results, after more
    than 20 years of their activities. The fact that things are, if
    anything, worse now than when they started, shows the uselessness of
    trusting them.

    The ban is even more useless

    Years ago one had to have a card for adult sites, it failed These
    snout and trotters in trough just rehashing what failed in past

    It is more likely to be about pointing the finger of blame than
    achieving anything. Once there is a law requiring social media companies
    to ban, the government can say it is their fault for not doing it.

    Just snout and trotters in trough trying to look relevant
    I'm for removing Federal Parliament and just having the States form a
    State appointed"unity" judiciary

    Canberra is in a bubble out of touch with the states

    Telecom to Telstra should of been removed as a Federal agency, and
    have it in each state.
    The way it is now if you live in Melbourne your mobile connections
    work well in Sydney can't get a mobile connection from them and had to
    go to Optus both towers are on the same Water board. water tank yet
    unclear and dodgy, my Neighbour next door, his company gave him a
    Telstra phone, the best, yet to talk even when raining I see him in
    the back yard trying to get a clear signal!
    The CEO of Testra is always in Melbourne where the team blow smoke up
    her arse, so she believes a of Australia has no problems.
    Yes the country seems well served, but not outside of north shore
    Sydney!
    --
    Petzl
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Fri May 16 07:59:08 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote
    Australia has put in place a law to ban accessto social media for
    under-16s,
    And it remains to be seen how enforceable that is.
    No chance in reality
    and New Zealand is looking to follow suit. Here is an
    interview, by Samantha Hayes of Stuff, of the “Premier” (as the
    Aussies insist on calling the state Chief Ministers in their
    Federation -- don’t they know that “Premier” is shortened journalese
    for “Prime Minister”?) of South Australia, Peter Malinauskas, the >>>>> instigator of the Aussie law
    <https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360690772/one-thing-architect-australias-social-media-ban-under-16s-would-do-differently>.
    One of our local pro-right-wing-wannabe parties insists the law would >>>>> be “unworkable”.
    Corse it is
    Yes, Malinauskas admits that bans on underage
    smoking, drinking and now social media are never 100% effective. But >>>>> they greatly reduce the incidence of the activity, and that is what
    leads to harm reduction.
    That last remains to be seen
    Certainly, relying on the social media companies to police themselves >>>>> is never going to work.
    Just as true of the ban
    Because if it had worked, we would have seen
    the results, after more than 20 years of their activities. The fact
    that things are, if anything, worse now than when they started, shows >>>>> the uselessness of trusting them.
    The ban is even more useless
    Years ago one had to have a card for adult sites,
    Fantasy
    AI Overview
    Useless. We need an actual cite of sites requiring that and you don't have that
    In the past, some internet adult sites did require users to have a
    physical card, like a credit card or a specific "adult ID card," to
    access their content.
    Just how could that physical card be inspected by the
    adult site and verified that it did belong to the individual
    who was about to visit that adult site and that it wasnt a
    trivial to produce fake
    These methods were used to verify that the user was of legal age.
    Not even possible, see above
    However, this practice has largely been replaced by
    other methods of age verification, such as credit card
    Again, no way to prove that it was that individual's card
    or financial verification, or the use of government-issued IDs.
    Again, no way to prove that it was that individual's
    card even with a photo ID with an adult site
    <reams more useless shit flushed where it belongs>
    it failed
    These snout and trotters in trough just rehashing what failed in past
    No one is proposing a card and what they are proposing
    is the whole of social media, not just adult sites.
    Fantasy Australia does not have any socail media sites AFAIK
    We arent discussing australian social media
    sites, we are discussing social media in general.
    And its never going to work given that any kid can just use
    someone else's account
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Fri May 16 08:47:03 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote


    I'm for removing Federal Parliament and just having the States form a
    State appointed"unity" judiciary

    More fool you. Makes no sense to have lots of different
    systems for medicare, defense, t rade etc

    Makes more sense to pull the plug on the states and territorys instead

    Canberra is in a bubble out of touch with the states

    The states don't have a clue about medicare, defense, trade etc

    Telecom to Telstra should of been removed as a Federal agency, and
    have it in each state.

    Mindlessly silly to have a separate system in each state

    The way it is now if you live in Melbourne your mobile connections
    work well in Sydney can't get a mobile connection from them and had to
    go to Optus both towers are on the same Water board. water tank yet
    unclear and dodgy, my Neighbour next door, his company gave him a
    Telstra phone, the best, yet to talk even when raining I see him in
    the back yard trying to get a clear signal!

    Try that again in english when not completely blotto already

    The CEO of Testra is always in Melbourne where the team blow smoke up
    her arse, so she believes a of Australia has no problems.

    Mindless bullshit

    Yes the country seems well served, but not outside of north shore
    Sydney!

    Mindless bullshit
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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Thu May 15 23:00:03 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Thu, 15 May 2025 13:15:06 +0100, Richmond wrote:

    It is more likely to be about pointing the finger of blame than
    achieving anything. Once there is a law requiring social media companies
    to ban, the government can say it is their fault for not doing it.

    It *is* their fault. Remember, they’ve had over 20 years to clean up their act.
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  • From not@not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Fri May 16 09:20:54 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    In aus.computers Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    One of our local pro-right-wing-wannabe parties insists the law would
    be "unworkable". Yes, Malinauskas admits that bans on underage
    smoking, drinking and now social media are never 100% effective. But
    they greatly reduce the incidence of the activity, and that is what
    leads to harm reduction.

    Rubbish, it'll be easy for kids to fake the ID requirement. That
    idiotic law effectively just enforced a compulsory course on
    identity fraud for under 16s. While of coure ensuring the
    government can track every honest adult social media user who does
    verify using their real ID.

    Even if it did work it'd only push kids to using other social media
    sites that don't obey the government anyway.

    Certainly, relying on the social media companies to police themselves
    is never going to work. Because if it had worked, we would have seen
    the results, after more than 20 years of their activities. The fact
    that things are, if anything, worse now than when they started, shows
    the uselessness of trusting them.

    The government will only be more inept at it. but really this is
    about them tracking people rather than solving a problem anyway.
    --
    __ __
    #_ < |\| |< _#
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Fri May 16 09:26:35 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote

    One of our local pro-right-wing-wannabe parties insists the law would
    be "unworkable". Yes, Malinauskas admits that bans on underage
    smoking, drinking and now social media are never 100% effective. But
    they greatly reduce the incidence of the activity, and that is what
    leads to harm reduction.

    Rubbish, it'll be easy for kids to fake the ID requirement. That
    idiotic law effectively just enforced a compulsory course on
    identity fraud for under 16s. While of coure ensuring the
    government can track every honest adult social media user who does
    verify using their real ID.

    Even if it did work it'd only push kids to using other social media
    sites that don't obey the government anyway.

    Certainly, relying on the social media companies to police themselves
    is never going to work. Because if it had worked, we would have seen
    the results, after more than 20 years of their activities. The fact
    that things are, if anything, worse now than when they started, shows
    the uselessness of trusting them.

    The government will only be more inept at it. but really this is
    about them tracking people rather than solving a problem anyway.

    Bullshit
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  • From kludge@kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Thu May 15 20:40:50 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
    Rubbish, it'll be easy for kids to fake the ID requirement. That
    idiotic law effectively just enforced a compulsory course on
    identity fraud for under 16s. While of coure ensuring the
    government can track every honest adult social media user who does
    verify using their real ID.

    My friend in 7th grade got his father's Playboy Club key and we
    even figured out how to get there on the city bus, but we didn't
    actually have the guts to try it.

    Technology changes but kids never do.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Fri May 16 01:13:45 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On 16 May 2025 09:20:54 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

    That idiotic law effectively just enforced a compulsory course on
    identity fraud for under 16s.

    You mean, more than they do so already?

    The government will only be more inept at it.

    Who would do a better job? Certainly not the companies themselves. So who?
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  • From Computer Nerd Kev@not@telling.you.invalid to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Fri May 16 12:21:20 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    In aus.computers Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    On 16 May 2025 09:20:54 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
    That idiotic law effectively just enforced a compulsory course on
    identity fraud for under 16s.

    You mean, more than they do so already?

    Yep. They can nick booze and smokes off their parents without
    needing to commit fraud, and this fraud can all be done from their
    bedroom.

    The government will only be more inept at it.

    Who would do a better job? Certainly not the companies themselves. So who?

    The Chinese Communist Party would probably do fairly well at it if
    they took power here. Not worth the trade-offs IMHO.
    --
    __ __
    #_ < |\| |< _#
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  • From squeak!@"squeak!"@cheesefactory.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Fri May 16 14:14:24 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 13:15:06 +0100, Richmond wrote:

    It is more likely to be about pointing the finger of blame than
    achieving anything. Once there is a law requiring social media companies
    to ban, the government can say it is their fault for not doing it.
    It *is* their fault. Remember, they’ve had over 20 years to clean up their act.

    yes, but they don't care. all they car about is making money and mining data
    --
    “A computer is like air conditioning –
    it becomes useless when you open Windows”
    — Linus Torvalds

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Fri May 16 04:55:32 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Fri, 16 May 2025 14:14:24 +1000, MightyMouse wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    It *is* their fault. Remember, they’ve had over 20 years to clean up
    their act.

    yes, but they don't care. all they car about is making money and mining
    data

    Precisely. How do we make them care? The only force they understand is
    legal force.
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Fri May 16 15:31:03 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote
    MightyMouse wrote
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote
    It *is* their fault. Remember, they’ve had over 20 years to clean up
    their act.
    yes, but they don't care. all they car about is making money and mining
    data
    Precisely. How do we make them care?
    Not possible
    The only force they understand is legal force.
    Just not possible for that to work in this situation
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  • From vallor@vallor@cultnix.org to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Fri May 16 15:37:30 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Fri, 16 May 2025 15:31:03 +1000, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
    wrote in <op.26mj91vvbyq249@pvr2.lan>:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote
    MightyMouse wrote
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote

    It *is* their fault. Remember, they’ve had over 20 years to clean up >>>> their act.

    yes, but they don't care. all they car about is making money and
    mining data

    Precisely. How do we make them care?

    Not possible

    The only force they understand is legal force.

    Just not possible for that to work in this situation

    Also need a definition of what constitutes "social media".

    Does email count? How about Usenet?
    --
    -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti
    OS: Linux 6.14.6 Release: Mint 22.1 Mem: 258G
    "Programming is an unnatural act."
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Frank Slootweg@this@ddress.is.invalid to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Fri May 16 15:43:02 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    On Fri, 16 May 2025 14:14:24 +1000, MightyMouse wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    It *is* their fault. Remember, they?ve had over 20 years to clean up
    their act.

    yes, but they don't care. all they car about is making money and mining data

    Precisely. How do we make them care? The only force they understand is
    legal force.

    Legal force or/and very large sums of money. That's what we try in the EU/Europe. But then they engage their current mob of schoolyard bulleys,
    who threaten us with all kinds of extreme and evil actions.
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  • From BR@blah@blah.blah to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Sat May 17 08:29:43 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Thu, 15 May 2025 07:22:18 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Australia has put in place a law to ban access to social media for
    under-16s, and New Zealand is looking to follow suit. Here is an
    interview, by Samantha Hayes of Stuff, of the Premier (as the
    Aussies insist on calling the state Chief Ministers in their
    Federation -- dont they know that Premier is shortened journalese
    for Prime Minister?) of South Australia, Peter Malinauskas, the
    instigator of the Aussie law ><https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360690772/one-thing-architect-australias-social-media-ban-under-16s-would-do-differently>.

    One of our local pro-right-wing-wannabe parties insists the law would
    be unworkable. Yes, Malinauskas admits that bans on underage
    smoking, drinking and now social media are never 100% effective. But
    they greatly reduce the incidence of the activity, and that is what
    leads to harm reduction.

    Certainly, relying on the social media companies to police themselves
    is never going to work. Because if it had worked, we would have seen
    the results, after more than 20 years of their activities. The fact
    that things are, if anything, worse now than when they started, shows
    the uselessness of trusting them.

    Banning under 16s from social media will be impossible unless some
    sort of digital ID is issued to everyone and which would be required
    for internet access. This legislation is insidious and must be opposed
    at every opportunity.

    It is up to parents to supervise their children's online activity, not politicians.

    Bill.
    --
    This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
    https://www.avg.com

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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Sat May 17 07:07:54 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote
    MightyMouse wrote
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote
    It *is* their fault. Remember, they’ve had over 20 years to clean up >>>>> their act.
    yes, but they don't care. all they car about is making money and
    mining data
    Precisely. How do we make them care?
    Not possible
    The only force they understand is legal force.
    Just not possible for that to work in this situation
    Also need a definition of what constitutes "social media".
    Nope
    Does email count?
    Nope, and neither does SMS
    How about Usenet?
    No point in even considering that given that kids don't use it
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  • From Tony@lizandtony@orcon.net.nz to aus.computers,comp.misc,nz.general on Fri May 16 21:25:48 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 07:22:18 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro ><ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Australia has put in place a law to ban access to social media for >>under-16s, and New Zealand is looking to follow suit. Here is an
    interview, by Samantha Hayes of Stuff, of the Premier (as the
    Aussies insist on calling the state Chief Ministers in their
    Federation -- dont they know that Premier is shortened journalese
    for Prime Minister?) of South Australia, Peter Malinauskas, the >>instigator of the Aussie law >><https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360690772/one-thing-architect-australias-social-media-ban-under-16s-would-do-differently>.

    One of our local pro-right-wing-wannabe parties insists the law would
    be unworkable. Yes, Malinauskas admits that bans on underage
    smoking, drinking and now social media are never 100% effective. But
    they greatly reduce the incidence of the activity, and that is what
    leads to harm reduction.

    Certainly, relying on the social media companies to police themselves
    is never going to work. Because if it had worked, we would have seen
    the results, after more than 20 years of their activities. The fact
    that things are, if anything, worse now than when they started, shows
    the uselessness of trusting them.

    Banning under 16s from social media will be impossible unless some
    sort of digital ID is issued to everyone and which would be required
    for internet access. This legislation is insidious and must be opposed
    at every opportunity.

    It is up to parents to supervise their children's online activity, not >politicians.

    Bill.
    Indeed so.

    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From squeak!@"squeak!"@cheesefactory.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Sat May 17 12:39:36 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    BR wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 07:22:18 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Australia has put in place a law to ban access to social media for
    under-16s, and New Zealand is looking to follow suit. Here is an
    interview, by Samantha Hayes of Stuff, of the “Premier” (as the
    Aussies insist on calling the state Chief Ministers in their
    Federation -- don’t they know that “Premier” is shortened journalese >> for “Prime Minister”?) of South Australia, Peter Malinauskas, the
    instigator of the Aussie law
    <https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360690772/one-thing-architect-australias-social-media-ban-under-16s-would-do-differently>.

    One of our local pro-right-wing-wannabe parties insists the law would
    be “unworkable”. Yes, Malinauskas admits that bans on underage
    smoking, drinking and now social media are never 100% effective. But
    they greatly reduce the incidence of the activity, and that is what
    leads to harm reduction.

    Certainly, relying on the social media companies to police themselves
    is never going to work. Because if it had worked, we would have seen
    the results, after more than 20 years of their activities. The fact
    that things are, if anything, worse now than when they started, shows
    the uselessness of trusting them.
    Banning under 16s from social media will be impossible unless some
    sort of digital ID is issued to everyone and which would be required
    for internet access.

    and so we march ever onward towards microchip implants

    This legislation is insidious and must be opposed
    at every opportunity.

    It is up to parents to supervise their children's online activity, not politicians.

    Bill.

    --
    “A computer is like air conditioning –
    it becomes useless when you open Windows”
    — Linus Torvalds

    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Sat May 17 14:29:31 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Sat, 17 May 2025 12:39:36 +1000, MightyMouse <squeak!@cheesefactory.com> wrote:
    BR wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 07:22:18 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Australia has put in place a law to ban access to social media for
    under-16s, and New Zealand is looking to follow suit. Here is an
    interview, by Samantha Hayes of Stuff, of the “Premier” (as the
    Aussies insist on calling the state Chief Ministers in their
    Federation -- don’t they know that “Premier” is shortened journalese >>> for “Prime Minister”?) of South Australia, Peter Malinauskas, the
    instigator of the Aussie law
    <https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360690772/one-thing-architect-australias-social-media-ban-under-16s-would-do-differently>.

    One of our local pro-right-wing-wannabe parties insists the law would
    be “unworkable”. Yes, Malinauskas admits that bans on underage
    smoking, drinking and now social media are never 100% effective. But>>> they greatly reduce the incidence of the activity, and that is what
    leads to harm reduction.

    Certainly, relying on the social media companies to police themselves
    is never going to work. Because if it had worked, we would have seen>>> the results, after more than 20 years of their activities. The fact
    that things are, if anything, worse now than when they started, shows
    the uselessness of trusting them.
    Banning under 16s from social media will be impossible unless some
    sort of digital ID is issued to everyone and which would be required
    for internet access.
    and so we march ever onward towards microchip implants
    Fantasy
    This legislation is insidious and must be opposed
    at every opportunity.

    It is up to parents to supervise their children's online activity, not
    politicians.

    Bill.


    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Sat May 17 14:34:31 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Sat, 17 May 2025 14:29:31 +1000, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 17 May 2025 12:39:36 +1000, MightyMouse > <squeak!@cheesefactory.com> wrote:

    BR wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 07:22:18 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Australia has put in place a law to ban access to social media for
    under-16s, and New Zealand is looking to follow suit. Here is an
    interview, by Samantha Hayes of Stuff, of the “Premier” (as the
    Aussies insist on calling the state Chief Ministers in their
    Federation -- don’t they know that “Premier” is shortened journalese >>>> for “Prime Minister”?) of South Australia, Peter Malinauskas, the
    instigator of the Aussie law
    <https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360690772/one-thing-architect-australias-social-media-ban-under-16s-would-do-differently>.

    One of our local pro-right-wing-wannabe parties insists the law would
    be “unworkable”. Yes, Malinauskas admits that bans on underage
    smoking, drinking and now social media are never 100% effective. But
    they greatly reduce the incidence of the activity, and that is what>>>> leads to harm reduction.

    Certainly, relying on the social media companies to police themselves
    is never going to work. Because if it had worked, we would have seen
    the results, after more than 20 years of their activities. The fact>>>> that things are, if anything, worse now than when they started, shows
    the uselessness of trusting them.
    Banning under 16s from social media will be impossible unless some
    sort of digital ID is issued to everyone and which would be required>>> for internet access.

    and so we march ever onward towards microchip implants

    Fantasy
    And there would soon be buyable microchips any kid can
    buy off the net that they can use to access social media
    This legislation is insidious and must be opposed
    at every opportunity.

    It is up to parents to supervise their children's online activity, not
    politicians.

    Bill.

    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Sat May 17 17:44:36 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Sat, 17 May 2025 12:39:36 +1000, MightyMouse
    <"squeak!"@cheesefactory.com> wrote:

    BR wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 07:22:18 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Australia has put in place a law to ban access to social media for
    under-16s, and New Zealand is looking to follow suit. Here is an
    interview, by Samantha Hayes of Stuff, of the Premier (as the
    Aussies insist on calling the state Chief Ministers in their
    Federation -- dont they know that Premier is shortened journalese
    for Prime Minister?) of South Australia, Peter Malinauskas, the
    instigator of the Aussie law
    <https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360690772/one-thing-architect-australias-social-media-ban-under-16s-would-do-differently>.

    One of our local pro-right-wing-wannabe parties insists the law would
    be unworkable. Yes, Malinauskas admits that bans on underage
    smoking, drinking and now social media are never 100% effective. But
    they greatly reduce the incidence of the activity, and that is what
    leads to harm reduction.

    Certainly, relying on the social media companies to police themselves
    is never going to work. Because if it had worked, we would have seen
    the results, after more than 20 years of their activities. The fact
    that things are, if anything, worse now than when they started, shows
    the uselessness of trusting them.
    Banning under 16s from social media will be impossible unless some
    sort of digital ID is issued to everyone and which would be required
    for internet access.

    and so we march ever onward towards microchip implants

    This is just political "snout and trotters in trough" try to get
    $$$travel yak fests.
    As usual accomplish nothing and these parasites know it.

    Kids under 21 should not be allowed smart phones, only be allowed dumb
    phones for text and voice.
    eg Nokia 2780 <https://www.amazon.com.au/Nokia-Unlocked-Universally-Compatible-Carriers/dp/B0D3RWZ39S>
    https://tinyurl.com/y8rfvh9t

    Also get to recognize spare the rod and spoil the child lessons to
    parents how to flog them.
    To many children have little respect nowadays, My town the local cop
    would kick you on the bum, then tell your parents who also gave you a
    hammering then you would be mowing lawns at some oldies house for 12
    months
    make parents accountable for their louts actions $$$ <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-19/police-to-target-ringleaders-in-youth-crime-crackdown/105070820>
    https://tinyurl.com/mu3fp8za
    NSW Police to target 100 ringleaders in crackdown on youth crime


    This legislation is insidious and must be opposed
    at every opportunity.

    It is up to parents to supervise their children's online activity, not
    politicians.

    Bill.

    --
    Petzl
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Sat May 17 17:49:35 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Sat, 17 May 2025 14:29:31 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 17 May 2025 12:39:36 +1000, MightyMouse
    <squeak!@cheesefactory.com> wrote:

    BR wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 07:22:18 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Australia has put in place a law to ban access to social media for
    under-16s, and New Zealand is looking to follow suit. Here is an
    interview, by Samantha Hayes of Stuff, of the Premier (as the
    Aussies insist on calling the state Chief Ministers in their
    Federation -- dont they know that Premier is shortened journalese
    for Prime Minister?) of South Australia, Peter Malinauskas, the
    instigator of the Aussie law
    <https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360690772/one-thing-architect-australias-social-media-ban-under-16s-would-do-differently>.

    One of our local pro-right-wing-wannabe parties insists the law would
    be unworkable. Yes, Malinauskas admits that bans on underage
    smoking, drinking and now social media are never 100% effective. But
    they greatly reduce the incidence of the activity, and that is what
    leads to harm reduction.

    Certainly, relying on the social media companies to police themselves
    is never going to work. Because if it had worked, we would have seen
    the results, after more than 20 years of their activities. The fact
    that things are, if anything, worse now than when they started, shows
    the uselessness of trusting them.
    Banning under 16s from social media will be impossible unless some
    sort of digital ID is issued to everyone and which would be required
    for internet access.

    and so we march ever onward towards microchip implants

    Fantasy

    Saves carrying a Opal card for public transport <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-28/sydney-bio-hacker-has-opal-travel-card-implanted-into-hand/8656174>
    https://tinyurl.com/4mvprzuj
    Sydney man has Opal card implanted into hand to make catching public
    transport easier

    This legislation is insidious and must be opposed
    at every opportunity.

    It is up to parents to supervise their children's online activity, not
    politicians.

    Bill.


    --
    Petzl
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Sat May 17 18:12:25 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

    Kids under 21 should not be allowed smart phones, only be allowed dumb
    phones for text and voice.

    Mindlessly silly and completely unengforceable because
    they would just get someone over 21 to get it for them.

    eg Nokia 2780 <https://www.amazon.com.au/Nokia-Unlocked-Universally-Compatible-Carriers/dp/B0D3RWZ39S>
    https://tinyurl.com/y8rfvh9t

    Also get to recognize spare the rod and spoil the child lessons to
    parents how to flog them.
    To many children have little respect nowadays, My town the local cop
    would kick you on the bum, then tell your parents who also gave you a hammering then you would be mowing lawns at some oldies house for 12
    months

    Never happened to me

    make parents accountable for their louts actions $$$

    Not even possible with the worst of the dregs of the parents

    <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-19/police-to-target-ringleaders-in-youth-crime-crackdown/105070820>
    https://tinyurl.com/mu3fp8za
    NSW Police to target 100 ringleaders in crackdown on youth crime
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Sat May 17 18:15:43 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    MightyMouse <squeak!@cheesefactory.com> wrote:

    and so we march ever onward towards microchip implants

    Fantasy

    Saves carrying a Opal card for public transport

    Makes a lot more sense to use your smartphone so you can
    track your public transport and see how close it is etc

    <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-28/sydney-bio-hacker-has-opal-travel-card-implanted-into-hand/8656174>
    https://tinyurl.com/4mvprzuj
    Sydney man has Opal card implanted into hand to make catching public transport easier

    More fool him
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Sat May 17 19:02:23 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Sat, 17 May 2025 18:15:43 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    MightyMouse <squeak!@cheesefactory.com> wrote:

    and so we march ever onward towards microchip implants

    Fantasy

    Saves carrying a Opal card for public transport

    Makes a lot more sense to use your smartphone so you can
    track your public transport and see how close it is etc

    I get a statement as old age pensioner it is cheap
    Also can login to see where I've been and cost
    For me to go to shopping mall it's $1.12 return the bus drops me
    outside of Woolworth, Cole's, Aldi
    Usually shop online Woolworth's and top up with a bus trip (10 minutes
    each way)
    The timetable for bus and train is on mobile in real time, stops
    outside 500 metres outside house

    <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-28/sydney-bio-hacker-has-opal-travel-card-implanted-into-hand/8656174>
    https://tinyurl.com/4mvprzuj
    Sydney man has Opal card implanted into hand to make catching public
    transport easier

    More fool him

    Like doing your own tattoos on your eyelids
    --
    Petzl
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Sat May 17 19:25:03 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Sat, 17 May 2025 18:12:25 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

    Kids under 21 should not be allowed smart phones, only be allowed dumb
    phones for text and voice.

    Mindlessly silly and completely unengforceable because
    they would just get someone over 21 to get it for them.

    Cost's money over 21 jail time

    eg Nokia 2780
    <https://www.amazon.com.au/Nokia-Unlocked-Universally-Compatible-Carriers/dp/B0D3RWZ39S>
    https://tinyurl.com/y8rfvh9t

    Also get to recognize spare the rod and spoil the child lessons to
    parents how to flog them.
    To many children have little respect nowadays, My town the local cop
    would kick you on the bum, then tell your parents who also gave you a
    hammering then you would be mowing lawns at some oldies house for 12
    months

    Never happened to me

    That explains what's wrong with you.

    make parents accountable for their louts actions $$$

    Not even possible with the worst of the dregs of the parents

    Labor is back to sending these arsehole "parents" back to a onnce nice
    housing commission area, which was cleaned up by last Liberal
    Government
    Seems they are now back to selling drugs. stolen property, doing home
    invasions using their kids (Oliver twist Fagan types)

    Greg Warren Camden Liberal mayor, blown parachuted into Campbelltown
    to be Labors state NSW member of parliament "snout and trotters in
    trough". Labor pay him to go to local pubs for beer and photosgoots <https://www.police.nsw.gov.au/news/news_article?sq_content_src=%2BdXJsPWh0dHBzJTNBJTJGJTJGZWJpenByZC5wb2xpY2UubnN3Lmdvdi5hdSUyRm1lZGlhJTJGMTE4NDc3Lmh0bWwmYWxsPTE%3D>
    https://tinyurl.com/22usema3
    About 3am on Tuesday 6 May 2025, officers from Campbelltown Police
    Area Command attended a home on Copperfield Drive, Rosemeadow, after
    three men allegedly threatened a 24-year-old female occupant with a
    firearm during a home invasion.

    <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-19/police-to-target-ringleaders-in-youth-crime-crackdown/105070820>
    https://tinyurl.com/mu3fp8za
    NSW Police to target 100 ringleaders in crackdown on youth crime
    --
    Petzl
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Sat May 17 19:27:21 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    MightyMouse <squeak!@cheesefactory.com> wrote:

    and so we march ever onward towards microchip implants

    Fantasy

    Saves carrying a Opal card for public transport

    Makes a lot more sense to use your smartphone so you can
    track your public transport and see how close it is etc

    I get a statement as old age pensioner it is cheap

    I wasnt talking about any statement, I was talking
    about actually using the public transport and
    checking if the vehicle or train is running late etc.

    Also can login to see where I've been and cost

    Another good reason for a smartphone instead of a chip embedded in your
    hand,

    For me to go to shopping mall it's $1.12 return the busdrops me outside
    of Woolworth, Cole's, Aldi

    Mine is $2.50 for use all day and it drops me next to
    Woolys bit its a short work to Coles but a big hike to
    Aldi but I get the stuff delivered from Coles for just
    $2 and that is a lot less hassle than using the bus

    Usually shop online Woolworth's

    I usw Coles because its only $2 per delivery but Woolys stupidly wants $16

    and top up with a bus trip

    I dont bother with top ups, not silly enough to run out

    (10 minutes each way)

    Same here, but it can be an hour wait if I miss the quick return bus

    The timetable for bus and train is on mobile in real time,

    You dont get real time with a chip in your hand

    stops outside 500 metres outside house

    Mine isnt even that

    <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-28/sydney-bio-hacker-has-opal-travel-card-implanted-into-hand/8656174>
    https://tinyurl.com/4mvprzuj
    Sydney man has Opal card implanted into hand to make catching public
    transport easier

    More fool him

    Like doing your own tattoos on your eyelids

    Not stupid enough to ever do tattoos
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From squeak!@"squeak!"@cheesefactory.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Sat May 17 22:38:44 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    Rod Speed wrote:
    On Sat, 17 May 2025 12:39:36 +1000, MightyMouse
    <squeak!@cheesefactory.com> wrote:

    BR wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 07:22:18 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Australia has put in place a law to ban access to social media for
    under-16s, and New Zealand is looking to follow suit. Here is an
    interview, by Samantha Hayes of Stuff, of the “Premier” (as the
    Aussies insist on calling the state Chief Ministers in their
    Federation -- don’t they know that “Premier” is shortened journalese >>>> for “Prime Minister”?) of South Australia, Peter Malinauskas, the
    instigator of the Aussie law
    <https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360690772/one-thing-architect-australias-social-media-ban-under-16s-would-do-differently>.


    One of our local pro-right-wing-wannabe parties insists the law would
    be “unworkable”. Yes, Malinauskas admits that bans on underage
    smoking, drinking and now social media are never 100% effective. But
    they greatly reduce the incidence of the activity, and that is what
    leads to harm reduction.

    Certainly, relying on the social media companies to police themselves
    is never going to work. Because if it had worked, we would have seen
    the results, after more than 20 years of their activities. The fact
    that things are, if anything, worse now than when they started, shows
    the uselessness of trusting them.
    Banning under 16s from social media will be impossible unless some
    sort of digital ID is issued to everyone and which would be required
    for internet access.

    and so we march ever onward towards microchip implants

    Fantasy


    people are already doing it

      This legislation is insidious and must be opposed
    at every opportunity.

    It is up to parents to supervise their children's online activity, not
    politicians.

    Bill.


    --
    You have the right not to post. If you give up the right not
    to post, anything you post can and will be used against you.

    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Sun May 18 01:43:33 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Sat, 17 May 2025 22:38:44 +1000, MightyMouse <squeak!@cheesefactory.com> wrote:
    Rod Speed wrote:
    On Sat, 17 May 2025 12:39:36 +1000, MightyMouse >> <squeak!@cheesefactory.com> wrote:

    BR wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 07:22:18 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Australia has put in place a law to ban access to social media for>>>>> under-16s, and New Zealand is looking to follow suit. Here is an
    interview, by Samantha Hayes of Stuff, of the “Premier” (as the
    Aussies insist on calling the state Chief Ministers in their
    Federation -- don’t they know that “Premier” is shortened journalese
    for “Prime Minister”?) of South Australia, Peter Malinauskas, the >>>>> instigator of the Aussie law
    <https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360690772/one-thing-architect-australias-social-media-ban-under-16s-would-do-differently>. >>>>> One of our local pro-right-wing-wannabe parties insists the law would
    be “unworkable”. Yes, Malinauskas admits that bans on underage
    smoking, drinking and now social media are never 100% effective. But >>>>> they greatly reduce the incidence of the activity, and that is what
    leads to harm reduction.

    Certainly, relying on the social media companies to police themselves >>>>> is never going to work. Because if it had worked, we would have seen >>>>> the results, after more than 20 years of their activities. The fact
    that things are, if anything, worse now than when they started, shows >>>>> the uselessness of trusting them.
    Banning under 16s from social media will be impossible unless some
    sort of digital ID is issued to everyone and which would be required
    for internet access.

    and so we march ever onward towards microchip implants

    Fantasy


    people are already doing it
    EVERYONE isnt and isnt even doing that for their pets
    even tho that is a legal requirement and no govt would
    ever be stupid enough to require that for internet access
    and complete trivial to bypass that even if they did
    This legislation is insidious and must be opposed
    at every opportunity.

    It is up to parents to supervise their children's online activity, not >>>> politicians.

    Bill.



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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Sun May 18 01:54:44 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

    Kids under 21 should not be allowed smart phones, only be allowed dumb
    phones for text and voice.

    Mindlessly silly

    And would prevent the kids using apple pay and android pay
    to pay for the stuff they buy, and using their phone instead of
    their Opal card etc. Fuck that

    and completely unengforceable because theywould just get someone over
    21 to get it for them.

    Cost's money over 21 jail time

    Completely unenforceable

    eg Nokia 2780
    <https://www.amazon.com.au/Nokia-Unlocked-Universally-Compatible-Carriers/dp/B0D3RWZ39S>
    https://tinyurl.com/y8rfvh9t

    Also get to recognize spare the rod and spoil the child lessons to
    parents how to flog them.
    To many children have little respect nowadays, My town the local cop
    would kick you on the bum, then tell your parents who also gave you a
    hammering then you would be mowing lawns at some oldies house for 12
    months

    Never happened to me

    That explains what's wrong with you.

    It never needed to happen

    make parents accountable for their louts actions $$$

    Not even possible with the worst of the dregs of the parents

    Labor is back to sending these arsehole "parents" back to a onnce nice housing commission area,

    No such animal and that doesnt happen in Qld which
    has enough of a clue to pull the plug on Labor

    which was cleaned up by last Liberal Government

    Fantasy and hasnt happened in Qld or the NT

    Seems they are now back to selling drugs. stolen property, doing home invasions

    That never stopped

    using their kids (Oliver twist Fagan types)

    Fantasy

    Greg Warren Camden Liberal mayor, blown parachuted into Campbelltown
    to be Labors state NSW member of parliament "snout and trotters in
    trough". Labor pay him to go to local pubs for beer and photosgoots <https://www.police.nsw.gov.au/news/news_article?sq_content_src=%2BdXJsPWh0dHBzJTNBJTJGJTJGZWJpenByZC5wb2xpY2UubnN3Lmdvdi5hdSUyRm1lZGlhJTJGMTE4NDc3Lmh0bWwmYWxsPTE%3D>
    https://tinyurl.com/22usema3

    Fantasy on Labor paying him

    About 3am on Tuesday 6 May 2025, officers from Campbelltown Police
    Area Command attended a home on Copperfield Drive, Rosemeadow, after
    three men allegedly threatened a 24-year-old female occupant with a
    firearm during a home invasion.

    Corse nothing like that ever happened inder the Libs, eh ?

    <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-19/police-to-target-ringleaders-in-youth-crime-crackdown/105070820>
    https://tinyurl.com/mu3fp8za
    NSW Police to target 100 ringleaders in crackdown on youth crime
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Frank Slootweg@this@ddress.is.invalid to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Sat May 17 17:29:05 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 07:22:18 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Australia has put in place a law to ban access to social media for >under-16s, and New Zealand is looking to follow suit. Here is an
    interview, by Samantha Hayes of Stuff, of the ?Premier? (as the
    Aussies insist on calling the state Chief Ministers in their
    Federation -- don?t they know that ?Premier? is shortened journalese
    for ?Prime Minister??) of South Australia, Peter Malinauskas, the >instigator of the Aussie law ><https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360690772/one-thing-architect-australias-social-media-ban-under-16s-would-do-differently>.

    One of our local pro-right-wing-wannabe parties insists the law would
    be ?unworkable?. Yes, Malinauskas admits that bans on underage
    smoking, drinking and now social media are never 100% effective. But
    they greatly reduce the incidence of the activity, and that is what
    leads to harm reduction.

    Certainly, relying on the social media companies to police themselves
    is never going to work. Because if it had worked, we would have seen
    the results, after more than 20 years of their activities. The fact
    that things are, if anything, worse now than when they started, shows
    the uselessness of trusting them.

    Banning under 16s from social media will be impossible unless some
    sort of digital ID is issued to everyone and which would be required
    for internet access. This legislation is insidious and must be opposed
    at every opportunity.

    It is up to parents to supervise their children's online activity, not politicians.

    Indeed. And the majority of parents are doing *such* a good job of it
    and know *exactly* what their children are (not) doing.

    BTW, I have a 300-meter steel tower in Paris for sale, quite cheap,
    honest!

    BTW2, I'm sure many countries already *do* have "some sort of digital
    ID". For example in The Netherlands we have DigiD. And you don't have to require that for "internet access" and not even for web access, but only
    to access 'social media'. As to 'the government': No need to get your
    knickers in a twist with *them*, because - as Lawrence indicates -, the
    'social media' companies are the bad guys. Government should try to get
    *them* under control and require them to require digital ID from their
    users, users of any age, so the filth-spouting 'keyboard knights' are
    also accountable.

    BTW3, no, we're not using our digital ID system to control access to
    'social media'. Why not? Because also our government is afraid of being
    accused of 'censorship'. Of course accountabilty is not censorship, but
    the 'censorship'-yelling mob doesn't want to hear that, do they?
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From kludge@kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Sat May 17 14:55:17 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
    BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:

    It is up to parents to supervise their children's online activity, not
    politicians.

    Indeed. And the majority of parents are doing *such* a good job of it
    and know *exactly* what their children are (not) doing.

    Which is why online controls won't work, because they won't have support
    of many parents... and the parents who are willing to do the work to
    support them are the ones who won't need them.

    When I was 16 I snuck into movie theatres to watch x-rated movies, which
    is probably more harmful than watching them on one's phone and certainly requires far more effort. No matter what rules you put in place, kids
    will find a way around them.

    The only solution is to actually educate kids about sex rather than
    telling them lies like I got when I was younger.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Sun May 18 09:16:21 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Sun, 18 May 2025 01:54:44 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Greg Warren Camden Liberal mayor, blown parachuted into Campbelltown
    to be Labors state NSW member of parliament "snout and trotters in
    trough". Labor pay him to go to local pubs for beer and photosgoots
    <https://www.police.nsw.gov.au/news/news_article?sq_content_src=%2BdXJsPWh0dHBzJTNBJTJGJTJGZWJpenByZC5wb2xpY2UubnN3Lmdvdi5hdSUyRm1lZGlhJTJGMTE4NDc3Lmh0bWwmYWxsPTE%3D>
    https://tinyurl.com/22usema3

    Fantasy on Labor paying him

    Not according to my Labor party comity mates

    About 3am on Tuesday 6 May 2025, officers from Campbelltown Police
    Area Command attended a home on Copperfield Drive, Rosemeadow, after
    three men allegedly threatened a 24-year-old female occupant with a
    firearm during a home invasion.

    Corse nothing like that ever happened inder the Libs, eh ?

    In my electorate which was guaranteed Labor one till boundaries
    changed
    When they did no doubt the Lib's were trying to make a good impression
    Their MP was a Local cop that lived in Campbelltown, they most
    certainty listened to him and got rid of the 3M streets <https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/new-beginning-means-removing-kids-from-the-violence/news-story/d40e03b25b9103e87740e03e9f0a146b>
    https://tinyurl.com/ycmb4nje
    New beginning means removing kids from the violence
    ROSEMEADOW residents tell tales of woe about failed attempts to get
    help. They talk about the streets littered with rubbish, homes with
    smashed walls, and junkies.

    Most Certainly when John Fahey went federal, his replacement was Pat
    Farmer guaranteed Lib seat,
    his inauguration speech was concerns about the new John Howard Flight
    Paths, no uncertain terms was told to "Shut the fuck up" by the Lib's

    Same was happing with their Labor representatives, booth parties are
    not interested in looking after guaranteed seats, parachuting snout
    and trotters in, they don't like locals representing them
    --
    Petzl
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Sun May 18 09:37:58 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

    Greg Warren Camden Liberal mayor, blown parachuted into Campbelltown
    to be Labors state NSW member of parliament "snout and trotters in
    trough". Labor pay him to go to local pubs for beer and photosgoots
    <https://www.police.nsw.gov.au/news/news_article?sq_content_src=%2BdXJsPWh0dHBzJTNBJTJGJTJGZWJpenByZC5wb2xpY2UubnN3Lmdvdi5hdSUyRm1lZGlhJTJGMTE4NDc3Lmh0bWwmYWxsPTE%3D>
    https://tinyurl.com/22usema3

    Fantasy on Labor paying him

    Not according to my Labor party comity mates

    Just because some fool claims something...

    About 3am on Tuesday 6 May 2025, officers from Campbelltown Police
    Area Command attended a home on Copperfield Drive, Rosemeadow, after
    three men allegedly threatened a 24-year-old female occupant with a
    firearm during a home invasion.

    Corse nothing like that ever happened under the Libs, eh ?

    In my electorate which was guaranteed Labor one till boundaries
    changed

    Your electorate is completely irrelevant

    When they did no doubt the Lib's were trying to make a good impression
    Their MP was a Local cop that lived in Campbelltown, they most
    certainty listened to him and got rid of the 3M streets

    Bullshit

    <https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/new-beginning-means-removing-kids-from-the-violence/news-story/d40e03b25b9103e87740e03e9f0a146b>
    https://tinyurl.com/ycmb4nje

    Just because some fuckwit journo claims something...

    New beginning means removing kids from the violence
    ROSEMEADOW residents tell tales of woe about failed attempts to get
    help. They talk about the streets littered with rubbish, homes with
    smashed walls, and junkies.

    Corse nothing like that ever happened under the Libs, eh ?

    Most Certainly when John Fahey went federal, his replacement was Pat
    Farmer guaranteed Lib seat,
    his inauguration speech was concerns about the new John Howard Flight
    Paths, no uncertain terms was told to "Shut the fuck up" by the Lib's

    Bullahir

    Same was happing with their Labor representatives, booth parties are
    not interested in looking after guaranteed seats, parachuting snout
    and trotters in, they don't like locals representing them

    Corse nothing like that ever happened under the Libs, eh ?
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Sun May 18 00:04:36 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Sat, 17 May 2025 14:55:17 -0400 (EDT), Scott Dorsey wrote:

    Which is why online controls won't work, because they won't have support
    of many parents...

    It is a given, is it not, that those below a certain age are not of
    sufficient maturity to make certain decisions for themselves. That’s why
    our species has the concept of “parents” and “parenting” at all. Only nowadays, society has become so complex that the parents of a child
    cannot, on their own, supply sufficient guidance and care to ensure the
    child grows up the right way. That’s why we have schools and
    schoolteachers, for one thing.

    As the saying goes, “it takes a village to raise a child”. And as Marshall McLuhan pointed out, that “village” is nowadays well and truly global.

    When I was 16 I snuck into movie theatres to watch x-rated movies, which
    is probably more harmful than watching them on one's phone and certainly requires far more effort.

    And therefore you did it less. That’s the difference.

    The only solution is to actually educate kids about sex ...

    Some right-wingers have religious objections to that though, don’t they?
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rich80105@Rich80105@hotmail.com to comp.misc,aus.computers on Sun May 18 12:36:45 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Sun, 18 May 2025 09:37:58 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

    Greg Warren Camden Liberal mayor, blown parachuted into Campbelltown
    to be Labors state NSW member of parliament "snout and trotters in
    trough". Labor pay him to go to local pubs for beer and photosgoots
    <https://www.police.nsw.gov.au/news/news_article?sq_content_src=%2BdXJsPWh0dHBzJTNBJTJGJTJGZWJpenByZC5wb2xpY2UubnN3Lmdvdi5hdSUyRm1lZGlhJTJGMTE4NDc3Lmh0bWwmYWxsPTE%3D>
    https://tinyurl.com/22usema3

    Fantasy on Labor paying him

    Not according to my Labor party comity mates

    Just because some fool claims something...

    About 3am on Tuesday 6 May 2025, officers from Campbelltown Police
    Area Command attended a home on Copperfield Drive, Rosemeadow, after
    three men allegedly threatened a 24-year-old female occupant with a
    firearm during a home invasion.

    Corse nothing like that ever happened under the Libs, eh ?

    In my electorate which was guaranteed Labor one till boundaries
    changed

    Your electorate is completely irrelevant

    When they did no doubt the Lib's were trying to make a good impression
    Their MP was a Local cop that lived in Campbelltown, they most
    certainty listened to him and got rid of the 3M streets

    Bullshit

    <https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/new-beginning-means-removing-kids-from-the-violence/news-story/d40e03b25b9103e87740e03e9f0a146b>
    https://tinyurl.com/ycmb4nje

    Just because some fuckwit journo claims something...

    New beginning means removing kids from the violence
    ROSEMEADOW residents tell tales of woe about failed attempts to get
    help. They talk about the streets littered with rubbish, homes with
    smashed walls, and junkies.

    Corse nothing like that ever happened under the Libs, eh ?

    Most Certainly when John Fahey went federal, his replacement was Pat
    Farmer guaranteed Lib seat,
    his inauguration speech was concerns about the new John Howard Flight
    Paths, no uncertain terms was told to "Shut the fuck up" by the Lib's

    Bullahir

    Same was happing with their Labor representatives, booth parties are
    not interested in looking after guaranteed seats, parachuting snout
    and trotters in, they don't like locals representing them

    Corse nothing like that ever happened under the Libs, eh ?

    Are the Libs still around? Their copying of Boris Johnson, Trump,
    with a little bit of Luxon from New Zealand, it is no surprise
    Australians rejected them.
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rich80105@Rich80105@hotmail.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Sun May 18 12:45:56 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Sun, 18 May 2025 00:04:36 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    On Sat, 17 May 2025 14:55:17 -0400 (EDT), Scott Dorsey wrote:

    Which is why online controls won't work, because they won't have support
    of many parents...

    It is a given, is it not, that those below a certain age are not of >sufficient maturity to make certain decisions for themselves. Thats why
    our species has the concept of parents and parenting at all. Only >nowadays, society has become so complex that the parents of a child
    cannot, on their own, supply sufficient guidance and care to ensure the >child grows up the right way. Thats why we have schools and
    schoolteachers, for one thing.

    As the saying goes, it takes a village to raise a child. And as Marshall >McLuhan pointed out, that village is nowadays well and truly global.

    When I was 16 I snuck into movie theatres to watch x-rated movies, which
    is probably more harmful than watching them on one's phone and certainly
    requires far more effort.

    And therefore you did it less. Thats the difference.

    The only solution is to actually educate kids about sex ...

    Some right-wingers have religious objections to that though, dont they?

    They have an objection to reducing profit - even for overseas
    operators. One answer is to make them liable for harassment and not
    picking up predators - that sadly means we will see that behaviour
    continuing, but a fine would give a bigger incentive to stop predatory behaviour early. They also arrange their affairs to minimise taxation
    - a higher rate of GST for social media would help . . .
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From squeak!@"squeak!"@cheesefactory.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Sun May 18 11:45:44 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    Rod Speed wrote:
    On Sat, 17 May 2025 22:38:44 +1000, MightyMouse
    <squeak!@cheesefactory.com> wrote:

    Rod Speed wrote:
    On Sat, 17 May 2025 12:39:36 +1000, MightyMouse
    <squeak!@cheesefactory.com> wrote:

    BR wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 07:22:18 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Australia has put in place a law to ban access to social media for >>>>>> under-16s, and New Zealand is looking to follow suit. Here is an
    interview, by Samantha Hayes of Stuff, of the “Premier” (as the >>>>>> Aussies insist on calling the state Chief Ministers in their
    Federation -- don’t they know that “Premier” is shortened journalese
    for “Prime Minister”?) of South Australia, Peter Malinauskas, the >>>>>> instigator of the Aussie law
    <https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360690772/one-thing-architect-australias-social-media-ban-under-16s-would-do-differently>.
    One of our local pro-right-wing-wannabe parties insists the law
    would
    be “unworkable”. Yes, Malinauskas admits that bans on underage >>>>>> smoking, drinking and now social media are never 100% effective. But >>>>>> they greatly reduce the incidence of the activity, and that is what >>>>>> leads to harm reduction.

    Certainly, relying on the social media companies to police
    themselves
    is never going to work. Because if it had worked, we would have seen >>>>>> the results, after more than 20 years of their activities. The fact >>>>>> that things are, if anything, worse now than when they started,
    shows
    the uselessness of trusting them.
    Banning under 16s from social media will be impossible unless some
    sort of digital ID is issued to everyone and which would be required >>>>> for internet access.

    and so we march ever onward towards microchip implants

    Fantasy


    people are already doing it

    EVERYONE isnt

    never said it was happening now with everyone. I said it will eventually happen. we have everything on our phones now, ID, drivers licence,
    credit cards, tap and go, etc., it's the next logical step to put all
    this into us. tap and go chip payment was even happening six years go .. https://www.bbc.com/news/business-61008730

    https://www.govtech.com/blogs/lohrmann-on-cybersecurity/from-progress-to-bans-how-close-are-human-microchip-implants

    and Elon Musk has taken it even a step further already .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL6nej4am3c

    and isnt even doing that for their pets
    even tho that is a legal requirement and no govt would
    ever be stupid enough to require that for internet access
    and complete trivial to bypass that even if they did

      This legislation is insidious and must be opposed
    at every opportunity.

    It is up to parents to supervise their children's online activity,
    not
    politicians.

    Bill.



    --
    You have the right not to post. If you give up the right not
    to post, anything you post can and will be used against you.

    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Sun May 18 16:12:53 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote
    Scott Dorsey wrote
    Which is why online controls won't work, becausethey won't have >> support of many parents...
    It is a given, is it not, that those below a certain age are not of sufficient maturity to make certain decisions for themselves.
    That's not true of social media and certainly isnt true of all those under 16
    That’s why our species has the concept of “parents” and “parenting” at > all.
    They are still parents when the kids are 40
    Only nowadays, society has become so complex that the parents of a child cannot, on their own, supply sufficient guidance and care to ensure the
    child grows up the right way.
    That's bullshit
    That’s why we have schools and
    schoolteachers, for one thing.
    That's bullshit too. We have schools because most parents
    don't have the time or skills to teach most of what schools
    teach and we certainly don't expect teachers to bring up kids.
    As the saying goes, “it takes a village to raise a child”.
    That's always been mindless bullshit and clearly
    isnt true of the kids in our big rural propertys.
    And as Marshall McLuhan pointed out, that“village” is nowadays well > and truly global.
    More mindless bullshit.
    When I was 16 I snuck into movie theatres to watch x-rated movies, which
    is probably more harmful than watching them on one's phone and certainly
    requires far more effort.
    And therefore you did it less. That’s the difference.
    There is no evidence that any ban on the use of social
    media would actually see most kids except to those of the
    most stupid lawbiding parents would actually use it less.
    The only solution is to actually educate kids about sex ...
    Some right-wingers have religious objections to that though, don’t they?
    Who cares about fools like that
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Sun May 18 17:37:37 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    MightyMouse <squeak!@cheesefactory.com> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    MightyMouse <squeak!@cheesefactory.com> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    MightyMouse <squeak!@cheesefactory.com> wrote
    BR wrote
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote
    Australia has put in place a law to ban access to social media for >>>>>>> under-16s, and New Zealand is looking to follow suit. Here is an>>>>>>> interview, by Samantha Hayes of Stuff, of the “Premier” (as the
    Aussies insist on calling the state Chief Ministers in their
    Federation -- don’t they know that “Premier” is shortened >>>>>>> journalese for “Prime Minister”?)
    That is bullshit
    of South Australia, Peter Malinauskas, the instigator of the >>>>>>> Aussie law
    <https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360690772/one-thing-architect-australias-social-media-ban-under-16s-would-do-differently>.
    More bullshit
    One of our local pro-right-wing-wannabe parties insists the law >>>>>>> would be “unworkable”. Yes, Malinauskas admits that bans on >>>>>>> underage smoking,
    That isnt illegal in this country, most obviously
    in their own home with the parent's consent.
    drinking
    That isnt illegal in this country, most obviously
    in their own home with the parent's consent.
    and now social media are never 100% effective. But
    they greatly reduce the incidence of the activity, andthat is >>>>>>> what leads to harm reduction.
    There is no harm involved
    Certainly, relying on the social media companies to police >>>>>>> themselves
    is never going to work. Because if it had worked, we would have >>>>>>> seen
    the results, after more than 20 years of their activities. The fact >>>>>>> that things are, if anything, worse now than when they started, >>>>>>> shows
    the uselessness of trusting them.
    Banning under 16s from social media will be impossible unless some >>>>>> sort of digital ID is issued to everyone and which would be required >>>>>> for internet access.
    and so we march ever onward towards microchip implants
    Fantasy
    people are already doing it
    EVERYONE isnt
    never said it was happening now with everyone.
    You clearly did use the word everyone
    I said it will eventually happen.
    And you got that wrong, most obviously with pets
    we have everything on our phones now, ID, drivers licence, credit cards, > tap and go, etc.,
    Plenty dont
    it's the next logical step to put all this into us.
    But few will be stupid enough to do it like that because
    it works much better with it in your phone because you
    can use the phone for so much else as well so it makes
    no sense to have just the ID in your body and you hardly
    ever need that so you can be idenified if you are discovered
    unconscious etc
    tap and go chip payment was even happening six years go .. > https://www.bbc.com/news/business-61008730
    And some choose to not use that
    And even with an embedded ID, its completely trivial
    for kids to bypass that by getting another chip off the
    internet and using that to access social media and
    the govt will never be able to force everyone to have
    an embedded id before they can use social media
    https://www.govtech.com/blogs/lohrmann-on-cybersecurity/from-progress-to-bans-how-close-are-human-microchip-implants
    and Elon Musk has taken it even a step further already .. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL6nej4am3c
    Irrelevant to whether we will ever all be required to have embedded id
    and isnt even doing that for their pets
    even tho that is a legal requirement and no govt would
    ever be stupid enough to require that for internet access
    and complete trivial to bypass that even if they did
    This legislation is insidious and must be opposed
    at every opportunity.
    It is up to parents to supervise their children's online activity, >>>>>> not politicians.
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Peter Jason@pj@jostle.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Mon May 19 12:26:29 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc


    As usual accomplish nothing and these parasites know it.

    Kids under 21 should not be allowed smart phones, only be allowed dumb
    phones for text and voice.
    eg Nokia 2780 ><https://www.amazon.com.au/Nokia-Unlocked-Universally-Compatible-Carriers/dp/B0D3RWZ39S>
    https://tinyurl.com/y8rfvh9t

    Also get to recognize spare the rod and spoil the child lessons to
    parents how to flog them.
    To many children have little respect nowadays, My town the local cop
    would kick you on the bum, then tell your parents who also gave you a >hammering then you would be mowing lawns at some oldies house for 12
    months
    make parents accountable for their louts actions $$$
    <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-19/police-to-target-ringleaders-in-youth-crime-crackdown/105070820>
    https://tinyurl.com/mu3fp8za
    NSW Police to target 100 ringleaders in crackdown on youth crime


    Uncontrollable youth gangs have always been a problem. The early 20th
    century brought in legislation to have schooling compulsory up until
    the age of 14. And reform and trade schools sequestered the worst.

    Corporal punishment was routine, and read on...... https://www.thefreelibrary.com/%22Give+him+a+doing%22%3a+the+birching+of+young+offenders+in+Scotland+(1).-a099019935


    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Peter Jason@pj@jostle.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Mon May 19 12:36:16 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    ooopOn Mon, 19 May 2025 12:26:29 +1000, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com>
    wrote:


    As usual accomplish nothing and these parasites know it.

    Kids under 21 should not be allowed smart phones, only be allowed dumb >>phones for text and voice.
    eg Nokia 2780 >><https://www.amazon.com.au/Nokia-Unlocked-Universally-Compatible-Carriers/dp/B0D3RWZ39S>
    https://tinyurl.com/y8rfvh9t

    Also get to recognize spare the rod and spoil the child lessons to
    parents how to flog them.
    To many children have little respect nowadays, My town the local cop
    would kick you on the bum, then tell your parents who also gave you a >>hammering then you would be mowing lawns at some oldies house for 12
    months
    make parents accountable for their louts actions $$$ >><https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-19/police-to-target-ringleaders-in-youth-crime-crackdown/105070820>
    https://tinyurl.com/mu3fp8za
    NSW Police to target 100 ringleaders in crackdown on youth crime


    Uncontrollable youth gangs have always been a problem. The early 20th >century brought in legislation to have schooling compulsory up until
    the age of 14. And reform and trade schools sequestered the worst.

    Corporal punishment was routine, and read on...... >https://www.thefreelibrary.com/%22Give+him+a+doing%22%3a+the+birching+of+young+offenders+in+Scotland+(1).-a099019935

    oops..
    https://tinyurl.com/4p2ruabx

    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Mon May 19 15:42:24 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    As usual accomplish nothing and these parasites know it.

    Kids under 21 should not be allowed smart phones, only be allowed dumb
    phones for text and voice.
    eg Nokia 2780
    <https://www.amazon.com.au/Nokia-Unlocked-Universally-Compatible-Carriers/dp/B0D3RWZ39S>
    https://tinyurl.com/y8rfvh9t

    Also get to recognize spare the rod and spoil the child lessons to
    parents how to flog them.
    To many children have little respect nowadays, My town the local cop
    would kick you on the bum, then tell your parents who also gave you a
    hammering then you would be mowing lawns at some oldies house for 12
    months
    make parents accountable for their louts actions $$$
    <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-19/police-to-target-ringleaders-in-youth-crime-crackdown/105070820>
    https://tinyurl.com/mu3fp8za
    NSW Police to target 100 ringleaders in crackdown on youth crime

    Uncontrollable youth gangs have always been a problem.

    Not as much as they are now

    The early 20th
    century brought in legislation to have schooling compulsory up until
    the age of 14.

    Irrelevabt to uncontrollable youth gangs

    And reform and trade schools sequestered the worst.

    Corporal punishment was routine,

    And so was the death penalty

    and read on...... https://www.thefreelibrary.com/%22Give+him+a+doing%22%3a+the+birching+of+young+offenders+in+Scotland+(1).-a099019935

    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From kludge@kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Thu May 22 09:37:50 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 17 May 2025 14:55:17 -0400 (EDT), Scott Dorsey wrote:

    The only solution is to actually educate kids about sex ...

    Some right-wingers have religious objections to that though, don't they?

    Not just right-wingers. Plenty of folks left and center have social
    objections to that. (Most of the claimed religious objections on the
    right turn out to be social objections when carefully inspected.)

    We live in a society that is very messed-up about sex and that isn't
    going to change until people see places that are less so. The nice
    thing about the internet is that it gives kids an opportunity to see
    places that are less so. The bad thing about the internet is that it
    provides no context.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Fri May 23 02:13:27 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote
    Scott Dorsey wrote

    The only solution is to actually educate kids about sex ...

    Not even possible

    Some right-wingers have religious objections to that though, don't they?

    Not just right-wingers. Plenty of folks left and center have social objections to that. (Most of the claimed religious objections on the
    right turn out to be social objections when carefully inspected.)

    We live in a society that is very messed-up about sex

    In what regard ?

    and that isn't going to change until people see places that are less
    so.

    Where are you claiming those are ?

    The nice thing about the internet is that it giveskids an opportunity
    to see places that are less so.

    Where are you claiming those are ?

    The bad thing about the internet is that it provides no context.

    What context are you claiming there should be ?
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Peter Jason@pj@jostle.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Fri May 23 06:59:30 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Thu, 22 May 2025 09:37:50 -0400 (EDT), kludge@panix.com (Scott
    Dorsey) wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 17 May 2025 14:55:17 -0400 (EDT), Scott Dorsey wrote:

    The only solution is to actually educate kids about sex ...

    Some right-wingers have religious objections to that though, don't they?

    Not just right-wingers. Plenty of folks left and center have social >objections to that. (Most of the claimed religious objections on the
    right turn out to be social objections when carefully inspected.)

    We live in a society that is very messed-up about sex and that isn't
    going to change until people see places that are less so. The nice
    thing about the internet is that it gives kids an opportunity to see
    places that are less so. The bad thing about the internet is that it >provides no context.
    --scott

    There has to be some balance between freedom and control. In the USA
    various venereal diseases, like clamidia and gonorrhea are out of
    control, especially among blacks. The mechanics of sex must be
    combined with social skills & responsibilities and should be taught
    from a young age. Various religions oppose this mainly in the
    endeavor to breed more adherents, and the costs of caring for bastards
    and gravid mothers.

    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Fri May 23 10:45:18 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote
    Scott Dorsey wrote

    The only solution is to actually educate kids about sex ...

    Not even possible

    Some right-wingers have religious objections to that though, don't
    they?

    Not just right-wingers. Plenty of folks left and center have social
    objections to that. (Most of the claimed religious objections on the
    right turn out to be social objections when carefully inspected.)

    We live in a society that is very messed-up about sex and that isn't
    going to change until people see places that are less so. The nice
    thing about the internet is that it gives kids an opportunity to see
    places that are less so. The bad thing about the internet is that it
    provides no context.

    There has to be some balance between freedom and control.

    Bullshit

    In the USA various venereal diseases, like clamidia andgonorrhea are
    out of control, especially among blacks.

    Bullshit

    The mechanics of sex must be combined with social skills& responsibilities and should be taught from a young age.

    Not even possible.

    Various religions oppose this mainly inthe endeavor to breed more adherents,

    That's not why they do that

    and the costs of caring for bastards and gravid mothers.

    In fact the stupid child benefits system actually encourages that
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Peter Jason@pj@jostle.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Fri May 23 11:52:16 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Fri, 23 May 2025 10:45:18 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote
    Scott Dorsey wrote

    The only solution is to actually educate kids about sex ...

    Not even possible

    Some right-wingers have religious objections to that though, don't
    they?

    Not just right-wingers. Plenty of folks left and center have social
    objections to that. (Most of the claimed religious objections on the
    right turn out to be social objections when carefully inspected.)

    We live in a society that is very messed-up about sex and that isn't
    going to change until people see places that are less so. The nice
    thing about the internet is that it gives kids an opportunity to see
    places that are less so. The bad thing about the internet is that it
    provides no context.

    There has to be some balance between freedom and control.

    Bullshit
    It is not bullshit. It's common sense.


    In the USA various venereal diseases, like clamidia andgonorrhea are
    out of control, especially among blacks.

    Bullshit
    Look it up! It is not bullshit.

    The mechanics of sex must be combined with social skills&
    responsibilities and should be taught from a young age.

    Not even possible.
    Yes it is. Flog them if they refuse to learn!

    Various religions oppose this mainly inthe endeavor to breed more
    adherents,

    That's not why they do that
    It's the main one!

    and the costs of caring for bastards and gravid mothers.

    In fact the stupid child benefits system actually encourages that
    "Child benefits" do not knock them up?
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Fri May 23 14:44:43 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote
    Scott Dorsey wrote

    The only solution is to actually educate kids about sex ...

    Not even possible

    Some right-wingers have religious objections to that though, don't
    they?

    Not just right-wingers. Plenty of folks left and center have social
    objections to that. (Most of the claimed religious objections on the
    right turn out to be social objections when carefully inspected.)

    We live in a society that is very messed-up about sex and that isn't
    going to change until people see places that are less so. The nice
    thing about the internet is that it gives kids an opportunity to see
    places that are less so. The bad thing about the internet is that it
    provides no context.

    There has to be some balance between freedom and control.

    Bullshit

    It is not bullshit.

    Its complete and utter bullshit

    It's common sense.

    Control isnt even possible

    In the USA various venereal diseases, like clamidia and
    gonorrhea are out of control, especially among blacks.

    Bullshit

    Look it up!

    Nothing to look up that says anything even remotely like that

    It is not bullshit.

    Its complete and utter bullshit

    The mechanics of sex must be combined with social skills&
    responsibilities and should be taught from a young age.

    Not even possible.

    Yes it is. Flog them if they refuse to learn!

    Even sillier than you usually manage and not even legal

    Various religions oppose this mainly in
    the endeavor to breed more adherents,

    That's not why they do that

    It's the main one!

    Bullshit it is. If it was, they wouldnt be banning fucking outside marriage

    and the costs of caring for bastards and gravid mothers.

    In fact the stupid child benefits system actually encourages that

    "Child benefits" do not knock them up?

    But is the reason the dregs choose to have the brats, so they dont
    have to work and just put their hand out to the govt instead
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  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@admin@127.0.0.1 to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Wed Jun 4 10:28:09 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Thu, 15 May 2025 17:36:53 +1000
    "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Good to see you're still alive and keeping busy; we don't get many proper
    old style trolls any more.
    --
    Bah, and indeed Humbug.
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@admin@127.0.0.1 to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Wed Jun 4 10:36:15 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On 17 May 2025 17:29:05 GMT
    Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:



    BTW, I have a 300-meter steel tower in Paris for sale, quite cheap,
    honest!

    Don't buy his tower! Get a proper cast iron one.
    --
    Bah, and indeed Humbug.
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Mike Spencer@mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere to comp.misc on Wed Jun 4 17:14:13 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc


    "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> writes:

    On 17 May 2025 17:29:05 GMT
    Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

    BTW, I have a 300-meter steel tower in Paris for sale, quite cheap,
    honest!

    Don't buy his tower! Get a proper cast iron one.

    Oh, well! If that's your inclination, I have a nice bridge in
    Shropshire that might interest you.
    --
    Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Peter Jason@pj@jostle.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Thu Jun 5 11:53:14 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Fri, 23 May 2025 14:44:43 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote
    Scott Dorsey wrote

    The only solution is to actually educate kids about sex ...

    Not even possible

    Some right-wingers have religious objections to that though, don't >>>>>> they?

    Not just right-wingers. Plenty of folks left and center have social >>>>> objections to that. (Most of the claimed religious objections on the >>>>> right turn out to be social objections when carefully inspected.)

    We live in a society that is very messed-up about sex and that isn't >>>>> going to change until people see places that are less so. The nice
    thing about the internet is that it gives kids an opportunity to see >>>>> places that are less so. The bad thing about the internet is that it >>>>> provides no context.

    There has to be some balance between freedom and control.

    Bullshit

    It is not bullshit.

    Its complete and utter bullshit

    It's common sense.

    Control isnt even possible

    Some control is possible. No one gets it 100% of the time

    In the USA various venereal diseases, like clamidia and
    gonorrhea are out of control, especially among blacks.

    Bullshit

    Look it up!

    Nothing to look up that says anything even remotely like that

    Jesus, every medical book says so,
    They're screwing themselves into an early grave.

    It is not bullshit.

    Its complete and utter bullshit
    The above is solid gold diamond encrusted truth. Why is everything "bullshit".?


    The mechanics of sex must be combined with social skills&
    responsibilities and should be taught from a young age.

    Not even possible.

    Yes it is. Flog them if they refuse to learn!

    Even sillier than you usually manage and not even legal
    Wot? All the best things are illegal. Look at the USA govt debt!

    Various religions oppose this mainly in
    the endeavor to breed more adherents,

    That's not why they do that

    It's the main one!

    Bullshit it is. If it was, they wouldnt be banning fucking outside marriage Yes they would given the roving stud could be of any religion.


    and the costs of caring for bastards and gravid mothers.

    In fact the stupid child benefits system actually encourages that

    "Child benefits" do not knock them up?

    But is the reason the dregs choose to have the brats, so they dont
    have to work and just put their hand out to the govt instead
    Nevertheless the result is poor-quality bastards.
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Thu Jun 5 18:41:37 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote
    Scott Dorsey wrote

    The only solution is to actually educate kids about sex ...

    Not even possible

    Some right-wingers have religious objections to that though, don't >>>>>>> they?

    Not just right-wingers. Plenty of folks left and center have social >>>>>> objections to that. (Most of the claimed religious objections on >>>>>> the right turn out to be social objections when carefully
    inspected.)

    We live in a society that is very messed-up about sex and that isn't >>>>>> going to change until people see places that are less so. The nice >>>>>> thing about the internet is that it gives kids an opportunity to see >>>>>> places that are less so. The bad thing about the internet is that >>>>>> it provides no context.

    There has to be some balance between freedom and control.

    Bullshit

    It is not bullshit.

    Its complete and utter bullshit

    It's common sense.

    Control isnt even possible

    Some control is possible.

    Nope and it never has been

    No one gets it 100% of the time

    In spades with fucking

    In the USA various venereal diseases, like clamidia and
    gonorrhea are out of control, especially among blacks.

    Bullshit

    Look it up!

    Nothing to look up that says anything even remotely like that

    Jesus, every medical book says so,

    Bullshit

    They're screwing themselves into an early grave.

    Bullshit they are now

    It is not bullshit.

    Its complete and utter bullshit

    The above is solid gold diamond encrusted truth. Why is everything "bullshit".?

    I call a spade a spade and bullshit bullshit

    The mechanics of sex must be combined with social skills&
    responsibilities and should be taught from a young age.

    Not even possible.

    Yes it is. Flog them if they refuse to learn!

    Even sillier than you usually manage and not even legal

    Wot? All the best things are illegal.

    Bullshit, fucking isnt

    Look at the USA govt debt!

    Nothing illegal about that

    Various religions oppose this mainly in
    the endeavor to breed more adherents,

    That's not why they do that

    It's the main one!

    Bullshit it is. If it was, they wouldnt be banning fucking outside
    marriage

    Yes they would given the roving stud could be of any religion.

    Not when they started banning fucking outside marraige

    and the costs of caring for bastards and gravid mothers.

    In fact the stupid child benefits system actually encourages that

    "Child benefits" do not knock them up?

    But is the reason the dregs choose to have the brats, so they dont
    have to work and just put their hand out to the govt instead

    Nevertheless the result is poor-quality bastards.

    Nothing to do with fucking outside marraige

    In spades given that fuck all are stupid enough bother with marraige
    anymore
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@admin@127.0.0.1 to comp.misc on Thu Jun 5 10:26:43 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On 04 Jun 2025 17:14:13 -0300
    Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote:


    "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> writes:

    On 17 May 2025 17:29:05 GMT
    Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

    BTW, I have a 300-meter steel tower in Paris for sale, quite cheap,
    honest!

    Don't buy his tower! Get a proper cast iron one.

    Oh, well! If that's your inclination, I have a nice bridge in
    Shropshire that might interest you.

    No sale: sadly I don't have a suitable canyon in my back garden.
    --
    Bah, and indeed Humbug.
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Peter Jason@pj@jostle.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Fri Jun 6 07:03:27 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Thu, 05 Jun 2025 18:41:37 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote
    Scott Dorsey wrote

    The only solution is to actually educate kids about sex ...

    Not even possible

    Some right-wingers have religious objections to that though, don't >>>>>>>> they?

    Not just right-wingers. Plenty of folks left and center have social >>>>>>> objections to that. (Most of the claimed religious objections on >>>>>>> the right turn out to be social objections when carefully
    inspected.)

    We live in a society that is very messed-up about sex and that isn't >>>>>>> going to change until people see places that are less so. The nice >>>>>>> thing about the internet is that it gives kids an opportunity to see >>>>>>> places that are less so. The bad thing about the internet is that >>>>>>> it provides no context.

    There has to be some balance between freedom and control.

    Bullshit

    It is not bullshit.

    Its complete and utter bullshit

    It's common sense.

    Control isnt even possible

    Some control is possible.

    Nope and it never has been

    As with every law 100% is not possible. But they work most of the
    time!


    No one gets it 100% of the time
    Well, you screw me over 100% of the time!
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Fri Jun 6 07:48:20 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Fri, 06 Jun 2025 07:03:27 +1000, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:

    On Thu, 05 Jun 2025 18:41:37 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote
    Scott Dorsey wrote

    The only solution is to actually educate kids about sex ...

    Not even possible

    Some right-wingers have religious objections to that though, >>>>>>>>> don't
    they?

    Not just right-wingers. Plenty of folks left and center have >>>>>>>> social
    objections to that. (Most of the claimed religious objections on >>>>>>>> the right turn out to be social objections when carefully
    inspected.)

    We live in a society that is very messed-up about sex and that >>>>>>>> isn't
    going to change until people see places that are less so. The >>>>>>>> nice
    thing about the internet is that it gives kids an opportunity to >>>>>>>> see
    places that are less so. The bad thing about the internet is that >>>>>>>> it provides no context.

    There has to be some balance between freedom and control.

    Bullshit

    It is not bullshit.

    Its complete and utter bullshit

    It's common sense.

    Control isnt even possible

    Some control is possible.

    Nope and it never has been

    As with every law 100% is not possible. But they work most of the time!

    Sex education of children has never worked except in the sense
    that it does make clear that fucking can make you pregnant
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From noel@deletethis@invalid.lan to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Fri Jun 6 16:08:28 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Fri, 06 Jun 2025 07:48:20 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

    Sex education of children has never worked except in the sense that it
    does make clear that fucking can make you pregnant

    Sex education with adults never works either, your parents failed, they
    had you ya inbred disease
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Peter Jason@pj@jostle.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Sat Jun 7 09:49:01 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On 6 Jun 2025 16:08:28 +1000, noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> wrote:

    On Fri, 06 Jun 2025 07:48:20 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

    Sex education of children has never worked except in the sense that it
    does make clear that fucking can make you pregnant

    Sex education with adults never works either, your parents failed, they
    had you ya inbred disease

    Yes, we should direct our attention to adults, especially the Hominid
    old farts who will not be tutored. After all it's the adults who have
    the feral kids. I have long recommended the re-introduction of
    corporal punishment to adequately correct, admonish, instruct and
    improve the condition of randy sticky-fingered teen creatures.
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From squeak!@"squeak!"@cheesefactory.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Sat Jun 7 16:53:18 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    Peter Jason wrote:
    On 6 Jun 2025 16:08:28 +1000, noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> wrote:

    On Fri, 06 Jun 2025 07:48:20 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

    Sex education of children has never worked except in the sense that it
    does make clear that fucking can make you pregnant
    Sex education with adults never works either, your parents failed, they
    had you ya inbred disease
    Yes, we should direct our attention to adults, especially the Hominid
    old farts who will not be tutored. After all it's the adults who have
    the feral kids. I have long recommended the re-introduction of
    corporal punishment to adequately correct, admonish, instruct and
    improve the condition of randy sticky-fingered teen creatures.

    the lack of discipline at all levels in society is why we have so many
    social problems today. problems that other countries, notably Asian,
    don't have because they punish people for bad behaviour and breaching
    societal dictates.
    --
    You have the right not to post. If you give up the right not
    to post, anything you post can and will be used against you.

    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Sat Jun 7 18:37:27 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    MightyMouse <squeak!@cheesefactory.com> wrote
    Peter Jason wrote
    noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote

    Sex education of children has never worked except in the sense that it >>>> does make clear that fucking can make you pregnant

    Sex education with adults never works either, your parents failed, they
    had you ya inbred disease

    Yes, we should direct our attention to adults, especially the Hominid
    old farts who will not be tutored. After all it's the adults who have
    the feral kids. I have long recommended the re-introduction of
    corporal punishment to adequately correct, admonish, instruct and
    improve the condition of randy sticky-fingered teen creatures.

    the lack of discipline at all levels in society is why we have so many social problems today.

    Bullshit

    problems that other countries, notably Asian,don't have

    More bullshit

    because they punish people for bad behaviour and breaching societal dictates.

    More bullshit
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From squeak!@"squeak!"@cheesefactory.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Sat Jun 7 19:07:56 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    Rod Speed wrote:
    MightyMouse <squeak!@cheesefactory.com> wrote
    Peter Jason wrote
    noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote

    Sex education of children has never worked except in the sense
    that it
    does make clear that fucking can make you pregnant

    Sex education with adults never works either, your parents failed,
    they
    had you ya inbred disease

    Yes, we should direct our attention to adults, especially the Hominid
    old farts who will not be tutored. After all it's the adults who have
    the feral kids. I have long recommended the re-introduction of
    corporal punishment to adequately correct, admonish, instruct and
    improve the condition of randy sticky-fingered teen creatures.

    the lack of discipline at all levels in society is why we have so
    many social problems today.

    Bullshit

    problems that other countries, notably Asian,don't have

    More bullshit

    because they punish people for bad behaviour and breaching societal
    dictates.

    More bullshit

    go to Singapore and start tagging buildings and see what happens to you
    --
    You have the right not to post. If you give up the right not
    to post, anything you post can and will be used against you.

    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Sun Jun 8 01:13:59 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    MightyMouse <squeak!@cheesefactory.com> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    MightyMouse <squeak!@cheesefactory.com> wrote
    Peter Jason wrote
    noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote

    Sex education of children has never worked except in the sense that >>>>>> it
    does make clear that fucking can make you pregnant

    Sex education with adults never works either, your parents failed, >>>>> they
    had you ya inbred disease

    Yes, we should direct our attention to adults, especially the Hominid
    old farts who will not be tutored. After all it's the adults who have >>>> the feral kids. I have long recommended the re-introduction of
    corporal punishment to adequately correct, admonish, instruct and
    improve the condition of randy sticky-fingered teen creatures.

    the lack of discipline at all levels in society is why we have so many >>> social problems today.

    Bullshit

    problems that other countries, notably Asian,don't have

    More bullshit

    because they punish people for bad behaviour and breaching societal
    dictates.

    More bullshit

    go to Singapore and start tagging buildings and see what happens to you

    Pity about the rest of Asia
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Sun Jun 8 07:14:14 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Sat, 7 Jun 2025 19:07:56 +1000, MightyMouse
    <"squeak!"@cheesefactory.com> wrote:

    problems that other countries, notably Asian,don't have

    More bullshit

    because they punish people for bad behaviour and breaching societal
    dictates.

    More bullshit

    go to Singapore and start tagging buildings and see what happens to you

    I find with Asians they don't see the point of mindless Graffiti,
    there is no money in it!
    Robbery, selling drugs, prostitution yes. But dealt with harshly
    corruption is endemic
    **************
    France now requires Adult site access to upload a photo ID to access
    adult websites, instead of just clicking on a button that says theyre
    18. <https://nypost.com/2025/06/07/world-news/au-revoir-pornhub-adult-site-pulls-out-of-france-users-rage/>
    https://tinyurl.com/s97nbc6t
    Au revoir Pornhub! Adult site pulls out of France, sending users into
    a frenzy
    --
    Petzl
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Sun Jun 8 07:48:23 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    MightyMouse <"squeak!"@cheesefactory.com> wrote
    problems that other countries, notably Asian,don't have
    More bullshit

    because they punish people for bad behaviour and breaching societal
    dictates.
    More bullshit
    go to Singapore and start tagging buildings and see what happens to you
    I find with Asians they don't see the point of mindless Graffiti,
    there is no money in it!
    Have fun explaining the graffiti in Hong Kong
    Robbery, selling drugs, prostitution yes. But dealt with harshly
    corruption is endemic
    **************
    France now requires Adult site access to upload a photo ID to access
    adult websites, instead of just clicking on a button that says they’re > 18.
    Trivial to use a fake ID
    <https://nypost.com/2025/06/07/world-news/au-revoir-pornhub-adult-site-pulls-out-of-france-users-rage/>
    https://tinyurl.com/s97nbc6t
    Au revoir Pornhub! Adult site pulls out of France, sending users into
    a frenzy
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to nz.general,aus.computers,comp.misc on Sun Jun 8 09:37:58 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    Retrograde <fungus@amongus.com.invalid> wrote
    For the love of god
    There is no god
    please drop comp.misc from this stupid pissing match of a conversation.
    Get fucked
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    MightyMouse <"squeak!"@cheesefactory.com> wrote

    problems that other countries, notably Asian,don't have

    More bullshit

    because they punish people for bad behaviour and breaching >> societal
    dictates.

    More bullshit

    go to Singapore and start tagging buildings and see what happens to >> you

    I find with Asians they don't see the point of mindless Graffiti,
    there is no money in it!

    Have fun explaining the graffiti in Hong Kong

    Robbery, selling drugs, prostitution yes. But dealt with harshly
    corruption is endemic
    **************
    France now requires Adult site access to upload a photo ID to access
    adult websites, instead of just clicking on a button that says they’re >> > 18.

    Trivial to use a fake ID

    <https://nypost.com/2025/06/07/world-news/au-revoir-pornhub-adult-site-pulls-out-of-france-users-rage/>
    https://tinyurl.com/s97nbc6t
    Au revoir Pornhub! Adult site pulls out of France, sending users into
    a frenzy

    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to nz.general,aus.computers,comp.misc on Sun Jun 8 15:43:53 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Retrograde <fungus@amongus.com.invalid> wrote

    For the love of god

    There is no god

    Not what George Washington believed

    Its no news that there are plenty as stupid as you and him

    George Washington
    "The thing that sets the American Christian apart is that he will die
    on his feet before he will live on his knees."

    And that fucker grovelled to some sky fairy on his knees

    please drop comp.misc from this stupid pissing match of a
    conversation.

    Get fucked
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rich80105@Rich80105@hotmail.com to aus.computers,comp.misc on Sun Jun 8 17:50:04 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Sun, 08 Jun 2025 15:43:53 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Retrograde <fungus@amongus.com.invalid> wrote

    For the love of god

    There is no god

    Not what George Washington believed

    Its no news that there are plenty as stupid as you and him

    George Washington
    "The thing that sets the American Christian apart is that he will die
    on his feet before he will live on his knees."

    And that fucker grovelled to some sky fairy on his knees

    please drop comp.misc from this stupid pissing match of a
    conversation.

    Get fucked
    I suspect that none of the Newsgroups it is being sent to are relevant
    . . .
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.computers,comp.misc on Sun Jun 8 16:46:16 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Retrograde <fungus@amongus.com.invalid> wrote

    For the love of god

    There is no god

    Not what George Washington believed

    Its no news that there are plenty as stupid as you and him

    George Washington
    "The thing that sets the American Christian apart is that he will die
    on his feet before he will live on his knees."

    There is no evidence that he ever said that

    And that fucker grovelled to some sky fairy on his knees

    please drop comp.misc from this stupid pissing match of a
    conversation.

    Get fucked

    I suspect that none of the Newsgroups it is being sent to are relevant

    Your problem . . .
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Retrograde@fungus@amongus.com.invalid to aus.computers,comp.misc on Sun Jun 8 06:11:51 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Sun, 08 Jun 2025 17:50:04 +1200
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    please drop comp.misc from this stupid pissing match of a
    conversation.

    Get fucked
    I suspect that none of the Newsgroups it is being sent to are relevant

    Well Rod Speed is clearly a special kind of aggressive shitpile to
    manually re-add comp.misc to the list of newsgroups before going back
    to his usual blathering stupidity.

    Killfiled and problem solved.
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From blacky@bhju88@gmail.com to aus.computers,comp.misc on Mon Jun 9 01:57:24 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Sun, 08 Jun 2025 22:11:51 +1000, Retrograde
    <fungus@amongus.com.invalid> wrote:

    On Sun, 08 Jun 2025 17:50:04 +1200
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    please drop comp.misc from this stupid pissing match of a
    conversation.

    Get fucked
    I suspect that none of the Newsgroups it is being sent to are relevant

    Well Rod Speed is clearly a special kind of aggressive shitpile to
    manually re-add comp.misc to the list of newsgroups before going back
    to his usual blathering stupidity.

    Killfiled and problem solved.

    Nope, dope
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From onion@onion@anon.invalid (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mr_=D6n!on?=) to aus.computers,comp.misc on Sun Jun 8 17:03:53 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    blacky <bhju88@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 08 Jun 2025 22:11:51 +1000, Retrograde
    <fungus@amongus.com.invalid> wrote:

    On Sun, 08 Jun 2025 17:50:04 +1200
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    please drop comp.misc from this stupid pissing match of a
    conversation.

    Get fucked
    I suspect that none of the Newsgroups it is being sent to are relevant

    Well Rod Speed is clearly a special kind of aggressive shitpile to
    manually re-add comp.misc to the list of newsgroups before going back
    to his usual blathering stupidity.

    Killfiled and problem solved.

    Nope, dope

    FFS. k/f xposts to aus.computers
    --
    \|/
    ((())) - Mr n!on

    When we shake the ketchup bottle
    At first none comes and then a lot'll.
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Peter Jason@pj@jostle.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Mon Jun 9 09:26:11 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Sat, 07 Jun 2025 18:37:27 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    MightyMouse <squeak!@cheesefactory.com> wrote
    Peter Jason wrote
    noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote

    Sex education of children has never worked except in the sense that it >>>>> does make clear that fucking can make you pregnant

    Sex education with adults never works either, your parents failed, they >>>> had you ya inbred disease

    Yes, we should direct our attention to adults, especially the Hominid
    old farts who will not be tutored. After all it's the adults who have
    the feral kids. I have long recommended the re-introduction of
    corporal punishment to adequately correct, admonish, instruct and
    improve the condition of randy sticky-fingered teen creatures.

    the lack of discipline at all levels in society is why we have so many
    social problems today.

    Bullshit

    problems that other countries, notably Asian,don't have

    More bullshit

    because they punish people for bad behaviour and breaching societal
    dictates.

    More bullshit

    There is no bullshit. Singapore is famous for admonishing, catching, sequestering and sentencing those refractory brats who daub wall with
    their vandalisms. These vandals are stripped and caned. Hence
    Singapore is almost graffiti free.
    Curiously this has not been taken up in other countries, even though
    it works, and is the cheapest form of punishment there is.
    We, the long suffering taxpayer, has to fork out $quillions to finance
    cleanup operations where a good flogging would so the job for almost
    nothing.
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Mon Jun 9 10:16:28 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    MightyMouse <squeak!@cheesefactory.com> wrote
    Peter Jason wrote
    noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote

    Sex education of children has never worked except in the sense that >>>>>> it does make clear that fucking can make you pregnant

    Sex education with adults never works either, your parents failed, >>>>> they had you ya inbred disease

    Yes, we should direct our attention to adults, especially the Hominid
    old farts who will not be tutored. After all it's the adults who have >>>> the feral kids. I have long recommended the re-introduction of
    corporal punishment to adequately correct, admonish, instruct and
    improve the condition of randy sticky-fingered teen creatures.

    the lack of discipline at all levels in society is why we have so many
    social problems today.

    Bullshit

    problems that other countries, notably Asian,don't have

    More bullshit

    because they punish people for bad behaviour and breaching societal
    dictates.

    More bullshit

    There is no bullshit.

    It is nothing but bullshit

    Singapore is famous for admonishing, catching,
    sequestering and sentencing those refractory brats who daub wall with
    their vandalisms.

    Pity its a microscopic subset of asia

    These vandals are stripped and caned.

    Bullshit on the stripped

    Hence Singapore is almost graffiti free.

    Pity about the rest of asia which isnt

    Curiously this has not been taken up in other countries, even though
    it works, and is the cheapest form of punishment there is.

    We, the long suffering taxpayer, has to fork out $quillions

    More bullshit

    to finance
    cleanup operations where a good flogging would so the job for almost
    nothing.

    Costs heaps to find the culprits, fuckwit
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Peter Jason@pj@jostle.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Tue Jun 10 11:38:23 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Mon, 09 Jun 2025 10:16:28 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    MightyMouse <squeak!@cheesefactory.com> wrote
    Peter Jason wrote
    noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote

    Sex education of children has never worked except in the sense that >>>>>>> it does make clear that fucking can make you pregnant

    Sex education with adults never works either, your parents failed, >>>>>> they had you ya inbred disease

    Yes, we should direct our attention to adults, especially the Hominid >>>>> old farts who will not be tutored. After all it's the adults who have >>>>> the feral kids. I have long recommended the re-introduction of
    corporal punishment to adequately correct, admonish, instruct and
    improve the condition of randy sticky-fingered teen creatures.

    the lack of discipline at all levels in society is why we have so many >>>> social problems today.

    Bullshit

    problems that other countries, notably Asian,don't have

    More bullshit

    because they punish people for bad behaviour and breaching societal
    dictates.

    More bullshit

    There is no bullshit.

    It is nothing but bullshit

    Singapore is famous for admonishing, catching,
    sequestering and sentencing those refractory brats who daub wall with
    their vandalisms.

    Pity its a microscopic subset of asia
    So? Perhaps the rest of Asia should follow!

    These vandals are stripped and caned.

    Bullshit on the stripped
    Picky picky, Bared then?

    Hence Singapore is almost graffiti free.

    Pity about the rest of asia which isnt
    Irrelevant!

    Curiously this has not been taken up in other countries, even though
    it works, and is the cheapest form of punishment there is.

    We, the long suffering taxpayer, has to fork out $quillions

    More bullshit
    It is not bullshit at all. Clean-up crews are at it all the time!

    to finance
    cleanup operations where a good flogging would so the job for almost
    nothing.

    Costs heaps to find the culprits, fuckwit
    Rubbish! A simple stake-out would do it.

    Let me say I'm appalled by your negativism!
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Peter Jason@pj@jostle.com to aus.computers,comp.misc on Tue Jun 10 11:39:45 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Sun, 8 Jun 2025 06:11:51 -0600, Retrograde
    <fungus@amongus.com.invalid> wrote:

    On Sun, 08 Jun 2025 17:50:04 +1200
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    please drop comp.misc from this stupid pissing match of a
    conversation.

    Get fucked
    I suspect that none of the Newsgroups it is being sent to are relevant

    Well Rod Speed is clearly a special kind of aggressive shitpile to
    manually re-add comp.misc to the list of newsgroups before going back
    to his usual blathering stupidity.

    Killfiled and problem solved.

    Relax; I'm still educating that Hominid.
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to comp.misc,nz.general,aus.computers on Tue Jun 10 14:48:56 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    MightyMouse <squeak!@cheesefactory.com> wrote
    Peter Jason wrote
    noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote

    Sex education of children has never worked except in the sense >>>>>>>> that it does make clear that fucking can make you pregnant

    Sex education with adults never works either, your parents failed, >>>>>>> they had you ya inbred disease

    Yes, we should direct our attention to adults, especially the
    Hominid
    old farts who will not be tutored. After all it's the adults who >>>>>> have
    the feral kids. I have long recommended the re-introduction of
    corporal punishment to adequately correct, admonish, instruct and
    improve the condition of randy sticky-fingered teen creatures.

    the lack of discipline at all levels in society is why we have so
    many social problems today.

    Bullshit

    problems that other countries, notably Asian,don't have

    More bullshit

    because they punish people for bad behaviour and breaching societal >>>>> dictates.

    More bullshit

    There is no bullshit.

    It is nothing but bullshit

    Singapore is famous for admonishing, catching,
    sequestering and sentencing those refractory brats who daub wall with
    their vandalisms.

    Pity its a microscopic subset of asia

    So?

    So the original claim is bullshit, like I said

    Perhaps the rest of Asia should follow!

    No one else is that stupid

    These vandals are stripped and caned.

    Bullshit on the stripped

    Picky picky,

    You arent sposed to pick your nose in usenet

    Bared then?\

    Bullshit on the bared

    Hence Singapore is almost graffiti free.

    Pity about the rest of asia which isnt

    Irrelevant!

    Nope, that's what the mouse claimed

    Curiously this has not been taken up in other countries, even though
    it works, and is the cheapest form of punishment there is.

    We, the long suffering taxpayer, has to fork out $quillions

    More bullshit

    It is not bullshit at all.

    Its complete and utter bullshit.

    Clean-up crews are at it all the time!

    More bullshit

    to finance
    cleanup operations where a good flogging would so the job for almost
    nothing.

    Costs heaps to find the culprits, fuckwit

    Rubbish!

    More bullshit

    A simple stake-out would do it.

    Pity about the cost of doing that

    Let me say I'm appalled by your negativism!

    Let me say I'm appalled by your mindless pig ignorant bullshit
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  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@admin@127.0.0.1 to aus.computers,comp.misc on Tue Jun 10 08:08:47 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Tue, 10 Jun 2025 11:39:45 +1000
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 8 Jun 2025 06:11:51 -0600, Retrograde
    <fungus@amongus.com.invalid> wrote:

    On Sun, 08 Jun 2025 17:50:04 +1200
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    please drop comp.misc from this stupid pissing match of a
    conversation.

    Get fucked
    I suspect that none of the Newsgroups it is being sent to are relevant

    Well Rod Speed is clearly a special kind of aggressive shitpile to
    manually re-add comp.misc to the list of newsgroups before going back
    to his usual blathering stupidity.

    Killfiled and problem solved.

    Relax; I'm still educating that Hominid.

    You have no chance; 'Rod' has been annoying usenet for decades.
    --
    Bah, and indeed Humbug.
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