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On 7/10/2025 9:10 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:

Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 16:25 this Wednesday (GMT):

On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 08:38:54 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

On 07/07/2025 16:43, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

I saw all this in passing, but didn't really care to dig deeper into
the matter -Intenet drama bores me- but, in the name of keeping
informed, I appreciate the summary.

I don't mind a bit of it now and then and this one I found interesting
as it seems to be a classic case of someone who's never got past that
teenager mindset of I can never be wrong. Most people at some stage in
their life learn that they aren't infallible and although they may not
like being in error when it happens the best thing to do is put your
hands up and just admit that's the case. Generally people will accept,
even respect, that and just move on.

It's probably worsened by having a public persona (even if it is as
mediocre a one as being a "YouTube celebrity"). Or that you're in
frequent communication with Fans On The Internet, who are not only
quick to point out any conflicting views you may have had, but provide
links to where you said something that disagrees with your current
statements. The internet can be incredibly critical, and when you're
income depends on maintaining the good will and your trustworthiness
(as in, people can depend on you for certain viewpoints), backing down
can be extremely taxing.

Apparently the guy has a huge ego too, they're terrible at programming despite "working at Bethesda for 20 years" (because his dad is a major employee), and yet literally calls himself "coding jesus" (also he
called out toby fox for being a bad coder), also some WoW drama where
they abandoned their team?

Also he is AGAINST pirating software.

I followed him for awhile. I've never seen him say this, the only thing
I've seen is him saying it's a price issue, if you price too high in
different regions, there will be pirating.
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On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 08:22:35 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

Well this is more than I thought would happen. One of the vice
presidents of the EU has come out in support of the initiative. Where
it's goes from here is anybody's guess. Something I also noticed,
Videogames Europe is based in Brussels, now I can't imagine why they
choose that location. Maybe they really like Belgian fries with mayo?

https://www.eurogamer.net/as-stop-killing-games-momentum-continues-top-eu-politician-offers-support-a-game-once-sold-belongs-to-the-customer

To be clear, though, all Stefanuta (the politician in question) was
did was say is (paraphrased), "yeah, this a good idea," and he signed
the non-binding "Stop Killing Games" petition. He hasn't actually
pushed forward any initiatives that would support it. And, coming from
Romania, I'm not sure how much influence he'd have anyway. At this
point, he's just one more name on the petition and (with apologies to
our Romanian neighbors) little more important than if, say, Tom Hanks
signed his name to the list. Buzzworthy, but not really moving us
forward.

I'll happily eat my hat, though, if tomorrow Stefanuta proposes some
sort of committee or ensures there will be a public hearing on the
topic. But -and maybe I'm just too cynical- at this point it just
looks like an easy way to get his name in the press rather than any
real show of support.




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On 16/07/2025 19:24, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 08:22:35 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

Well this is more than I thought would happen. One of the vice
presidents of the EU has come out in support of the initiative. Where
it's goes from here is anybody's guess. Something I also noticed,
Videogames Europe is based in Brussels, now I can't imagine why they
choose that location. Maybe they really like Belgian fries with mayo?

https://www.eurogamer.net/as-stop-killing-games-momentum-continues-top-eu-politician-offers-support-a-game-once-sold-belongs-to-the-customer

To be clear, though, all Stefanuta (the politician in question) was
did was say is (paraphrased), "yeah, this a good idea," and he signed
the non-binding "Stop Killing Games" petition. He hasn't actually
pushed forward any initiatives that would support it. And, coming from Romania, I'm not sure how much influence he'd have anyway. At this
point, he's just one more name on the petition and (with apologies to
our Romanian neighbors) little more important than if, say, Tom Hanks
signed his name to the list. Buzzworthy, but not really moving us
forward.

I'll happily eat my hat, though, if tomorrow Stefanuta proposes some
sort of committee or ensures there will be a public hearing on the
topic. But -and maybe I'm just too cynical- at this point it just
looks like an easy way to get his name in the press rather than any
real show of support.

He's one of the vice presidents of the *EU* so does have somewhat of a
say in what happens and certainly rather more than Tom Hanks support
would. He also has a history of talking about digital rights for consumers.

To put it simply, it's people like him who if the petition get's the authorised number of signatures can try and push people in the EU to
move it forward and be considered.

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JAB <noway@nochance.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

Well this is more than I thought would happen. One of the vice
presidents of the EU has come out in support of the initiative. Where
it's goes from here is anybody's guess. Something I also noticed,
Videogames Europe is based in Brussels, now I can't imagine why they
choose that location. Maybe they really like Belgian fries with mayo?

Isn't Brussels the home base of the EU gov't?

As such expect this to be bogged down by legalese and take the better
part of a decade to start to get off the ground.

Xocyll
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On 17/07/2025 20:14, Xocyll wrote:

JAB <noway@nochance.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

Well this is more than I thought would happen. One of the vice
presidents of the EU has come out in support of the initiative. Where
it's goes from here is anybody's guess. Something I also noticed,
Videogames Europe is based in Brussels, now I can't imagine why they
choose that location. Maybe they really like Belgian fries with mayo?

Isn't Brussels the home base of the EU gov't?

Well quite, that was the point. It's a lobbying group for the games
industry in Europe, where else would they place it.

As such expect this to be bogged down by legalese and take the better
part of a decade to start to get off the ground.

The initiative is designed to get the ball rolling on changing consumer
law not what the law says at the moment. Where the time will go, if it
evens happens, is all member states will want to have their say on the
matter. The positive though, no country will be allowed a veto.

I'm still not optimistic that something will happen but I am more
optimistic than I was before.
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