• Is EA finally learning?

    From Spalls Hurgenson@spallshurgenson@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Aug 1 10:24:36 2025
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    Everybody hates Origin (or EA App, or whatever its called this month).
    Or, if they don't hate it, they tolerate it. I've never heard anybody
    say anything POSITIVE about it; it's always been one of those things
    you just had to endure if you wanted to play a modern Electronic Arts
    game. You'd click the icon and have to wait for Origin to load first.
    Sure, in recent iterations it managed to politely stay in the
    background --loading invisibly with the game and shutting down after
    you quit-- but you knew it was there. Even if you purchased the game
    on Steam or Epic, you still suffered through Origin. It was like death
    and taxes; nobody liked it but you just accepted it as one of those
    things you had to live with.

    Except... maybe EA is finally listening to its customers? Because it
    turns out that Battlefield 6 _won't_ need you to use Origin. Well, not
    if you buy it on Steam, anyway (if you buy it from Origin, or Epic,
    you're still stuck with the mess). You'll still need an EA account,
    but the software will be optional.*

    Which makes sense, at least from a player perspective. It's not as if
    Origin does anything Steam doesn't already provide to games already; matchmaking, chat, achievements, etc... it's all in Steam. The only
    benefit Origin brought anyone was EA, and who wants to pay for
    something that only benefits a corporation?

    Why EA has suddenly become so sane is uncertain, and I'm sure that in
    some way, somehow, this will likely rebound back on players and fuck
    them over. It's EA, after all. But until then I'll close my eyes and
    pretend this is actually good news.




    * it says so on EA's own FAQ https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-6/faq
    Q: "Do I need EA App to play Battlefield 6?

    A: Steam players will not need to use EA App to play
    Battlefield 6 but will need an EA account. Those who
    purchased Battlefield 6 via the Epic Games Store will
    need EA App and an EA account to play."


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  • From Zaghadka@zaghadka@hotmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Aug 1 18:32:29 2025
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    No. And I didn't read any of this.

    j/k


    On Fri, 01 Aug 2025 10:24:36 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:


    Everybody hates Origin (or EA App, or whatever its called this month).
    Or, if they don't hate it, they tolerate it. I've never heard anybody
    say anything POSITIVE about it; it's always been one of those things
    you just had to endure if you wanted to play a modern Electronic Arts
    game. You'd click the icon and have to wait for Origin to load first.
    Sure, in recent iterations it managed to politely stay in the
    background --loading invisibly with the game and shutting down after
    you quit-- but you knew it was there. Even if you purchased the game
    on Steam or Epic, you still suffered through Origin. It was like death
    and taxes; nobody liked it but you just accepted it as one of those
    things you had to live with.

    Except... maybe EA is finally listening to its customers? Because it
    turns out that Battlefield 6 _won't_ need you to use Origin. Well, not
    if you buy it on Steam, anyway (if you buy it from Origin, or Epic,
    you're still stuck with the mess). You'll still need an EA account,
    but the software will be optional.*

    Which makes sense, at least from a player perspective. It's not as if
    Origin does anything Steam doesn't already provide to games already; >matchmaking, chat, achievements, etc... it's all in Steam. The only
    benefit Origin brought anyone was EA, and who wants to pay for
    something that only benefits a corporation?

    Why EA has suddenly become so sane is uncertain, and I'm sure that in
    some way, somehow, this will likely rebound back on players and fuck
    them over. It's EA, after all. But until then I'll close my eyes and
    pretend this is actually good news.




    * it says so on EA's own FAQ >https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-6/faq
    Q: "Do I need EA App to play Battlefield 6?

    A: Steam players will not need to use EA App to play
    Battlefield 6 but will need an EA account. Those who
    purchased Battlefield 6 via the Epic Games Store will
    need EA App and an EA account to play."

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  • From Rin Stowleigh@rstowleigh@x-nospam-x.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sat Aug 2 17:53:13 2025
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    On Fri, 01 Aug 2025 10:24:36 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:


    Everybody hates Origin (or EA App, or whatever its called this month).
    Or, if they don't hate it, they tolerate it. I've never heard anybody
    say anything POSITIVE about it; it's always been one of those things
    you just had to endure if you wanted to play a modern Electronic Arts
    game. You'd click the icon and have to wait for Origin to load first.
    Sure, in recent iterations it managed to politely stay in the
    background --loading invisibly with the game and shutting down after
    you quit-- but you knew it was there. Even if you purchased the game
    on Steam or Epic, you still suffered through Origin. It was like death
    and taxes; nobody liked it but you just accepted it as one of those
    things you had to live with.

    You're over-thinking and over-reporting again Spalls.

    The Battlefield series is mostly about online multiplayer, and we all
    know that's not your forte so it's weird that you'd even comment on
    that game here.

    As far as Steam vs EA Origin and other clients..

    For multiplayer games, having friends can enhance the experience....
    and, it can be inconvenient if you have to maintain multiple friends
    lists on multiple online stores, and often one store app forces you to
    use a different nickname, because the one you use on the other one is
    taken, etc. It sounds like a small thing but its a pain in the ass
    for folks that like to play with friends and squad-up in a game like
    the BF series. Seasoned multiplayer gamers who know what they're
    doing don't really want 3-4 different user interfaces to do the same
    fucking thing, just match make and enter a game.

    It really has nothing to do with the client itself being bad or being
    any more intrusive than any other game client...assuming the PC user
    who has it installed is reasonably adept at using a computer in the
    first place it shouldn't be a problem, seem different, or even be
    anything to gossip about.

    Battlefield 6, and that it's available on Steam from day 1 isn't even
    a new idea.... BF2042 came out in 2021 and did the same thing. I just
    chose to try before buy using EA Play or whatever it's called, because
    I think it was $15 a month and then if you want to buy games it would
    have been 10% discount for subscribers (so if I decided to buy, which
    I didn't at the time, the total cost of trying it out before buy was
    like $3 more than release-date cost for those who decided to rent
    before purchase). As I wrote in another thread I didn't like what I
    saw during that rent period, opted to not buy, and cancel the
    subscription after trying a few other games on the platform.

    Usenet seems to be becoming kind of like the skid row of gaming. And
    every time one of these drama queen reports lands on usenet servers,
    it's kind of like another homeless bum taking a shit on the sidewalk.
    Try to invest some time making your posts meaningful, and I think
    you'll be closer to actually achieving whatever it is you hope to
    achieve.
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  • From candycanearter07@candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sat Aug 2 23:30:08 2025
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    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 14:24 this Friday (GMT):

    Everybody hates Origin (or EA App, or whatever its called this month).
    Or, if they don't hate it, they tolerate it. I've never heard anybody
    say anything POSITIVE about it; it's always been one of those things
    you just had to endure if you wanted to play a modern Electronic Arts
    game. You'd click the icon and have to wait for Origin to load first.
    Sure, in recent iterations it managed to politely stay in the
    background --loading invisibly with the game and shutting down after
    you quit-- but you knew it was there. Even if you purchased the game
    on Steam or Epic, you still suffered through Origin. It was like death
    and taxes; nobody liked it but you just accepted it as one of those
    things you had to live with.

    Except... maybe EA is finally listening to its customers? Because it
    turns out that Battlefield 6 _won't_ need you to use Origin. Well, not
    if you buy it on Steam, anyway (if you buy it from Origin, or Epic,
    you're still stuck with the mess). You'll still need an EA account,
    but the software will be optional.*

    Which makes sense, at least from a player perspective. It's not as if
    Origin does anything Steam doesn't already provide to games already; matchmaking, chat, achievements, etc... it's all in Steam. The only
    benefit Origin brought anyone was EA, and who wants to pay for
    something that only benefits a corporation?

    Why EA has suddenly become so sane is uncertain, and I'm sure that in
    some way, somehow, this will likely rebound back on players and fuck
    them over. It's EA, after all. But until then I'll close my eyes and
    pretend this is actually good news.




    * it says so on EA's own FAQ https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-6/faq
    Q: "Do I need EA App to play Battlefield 6?

    A: Steam players will not need to use EA App to play
    Battlefield 6 but will need an EA account. Those who
    purchased Battlefield 6 via the Epic Games Store will
    need EA App and an EA account to play."


    I feel like this is going to be 1 step forward, 50000 steps back, and
    they're just making a consession to gain some goodwill for the next
    stupid idea.
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