• Have you really played PC games?

    From Spalls Hurgenson@spallshurgenson@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Tue Nov 18 10:39:38 2025
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    [You know what they say: if you can't think of anything
    else to write about, just find some article on the web
    and make fun of that. Not that I'm saying that's what
    I am doing here, of course. I'm just saying that's been
    known to happen ;-)]

    PCGamer (remember them?) posted an article the other day entitled,
    "You haven't truly experienced PC gaming until you've done these 8
    things".* So the question is: have YOU truly experienced PC gaming?


    Let's look at the list:**
    - Been the victim of an incorrigible griefer
    - Bonded with squadmates as everything goes FUBAR
    - Teamed up with strangers and somehow clicked
    - 'Gotten gud' at a game barely anyone plays
    - Went down the flavor text rabbit hole
    - Spent hours modding a game and then not played it
    - Spent three hours troubleshooting
    - Not played a game because it was on one of those…
    other… launchers


    The first thing that occurs to me that the first three of the items on
    that list don't seem to have anything to do with PC gaming
    specifically; they're just aspects of online gaming, good and bad. And
    if you don't care for online gaming, you may not have ever experienced
    these issues. I guess you're not a real PC Gamer!

    The next two are similarly not limited to PC gaming, and --again--
    don't really reflect the hobby either unless you're into specific
    types of game.

    The last three are really the only three that are really part and
    parcel with PC gaming. If you've never had to troubleshoot a PC game,
    then you are either extremely lucky, or extremely casual in your
    gaming. Our PCs are such wonderfully finicky beasts; dealing with bugs
    is half the fun! And the whole 'launcher' thing is equally as stupid
    --and unavoidable-- a part of the hobby too. Unless you're sticking to
    a tiny selection of games, you've bumped into that annoyance at one
    time or another.

    Myself, I think I'd count myself amongst the number of Real PC Gamers
    (TM), with thousands of games and decades of experience under the
    belt... and yet there are a number of items on that list I _haven't_ experienced. An incorrigible griefer? No, not really. I mean, sure
    I've experienced some assholes but I usually just mute them, or they
    get kicked, or I find a different server. I don't really feel
    victimized by them. I've never played a game only to mod it. I've
    played a lot of games that people here may never have experienced, but
    have I 'gotten gud' at them? Not really. And I _hate_ reading text in
    computer games.

    So, yeah... it's a stupid list. But that of course is the purpose
    (much like this response): it's designed to inspire conversation
    rather than actually saying anything insightful. So I guess it
    succeeded there.

    Have you REALLY experienced the Official PCGamer PC Gaming
    Experience(tm)?







    ----
    * here's the story https://www.pcgamer.com/games/you-havent-experienced-pc-gaming-until-youve-done-these-things/
    ** I rearranged the order for my own nefarious purposes. Muahahaha.


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  • From bill_wilson@bill_w@aol.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Tue Nov 18 11:52:30 2025
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    Its fun to jack-off to captured in game
    footage of shotgun decapitations. The
    bloody brain matter ALWAYS gives me
    a rock hard dick.
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  • From Justisaur@justisaur@yahoo.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Tue Nov 18 10:33:00 2025
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    On 11/18/2025 7:39 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    [You know what they say: if you can't think of anything
    else to write about, just find some article on the web
    and make fun of that. Not that I'm saying that's what
    I am doing here, of course. I'm just saying that's been
    known to happen ;-)]

    PCGamer (remember them?) posted an article the other day entitled,
    "You haven't truly experienced PC gaming until you've done these 8
    things".* So the question is: have YOU truly experienced PC gaming?


    Let's look at the list:**
    - Been the victim of an incorrigible griefer
    - Bonded with squadmates as everything goes FUBAR
    - Teamed up with strangers and somehow clicked

    These 3 yes.

    - 'Gotten gud' at a game barely anyone plays
    Probably?

    - Went down the flavor text rabbit hole

    Maybe? I'm not sure what this means. I generally don't like reading
    text in video games, but there's some games I have.

    - Spent hours modding a game and then not played it

    Probably not. Why mod something then not play it? I don't get how that
    would make you a PC gamer. Closest I remember getting is Skyrim, as I
    never finished it, but I sure played it.

    - Spent three hours troubleshooting

    Piddling number, way more than that, well into the hundreds if not even thousand.

    - Not played a game because it was on one of those…
    other… launchers

    Yes? But no? Hard to say. I refused to use even Steam for a very long
    time. I put off or don't play from Blizzard. I don't like Epic, and
    refused to use it for a long time even with free games.

    Again, how would this make you a PC gamer?

    it's a stupid list.
    I can agree with that.
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  • From Mike S.@Mike_S@nowhere.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Tue Nov 18 13:58:49 2025
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    On Tue, 18 Nov 2025 10:39:38 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    Let's look at the list:**
    - Been the victim of an incorrigible griefer
    - Bonded with squadmates as everything goes FUBAR
    - Teamed up with strangers and somehow clicked
    - 'Gotten gud' at a game barely anyone plays
    - Went down the flavor text rabbit hole
    - Spent hours modding a game and then not played it
    - Spent three hours troubleshooting
    - Not played a game because it was on one of those…
    other… launchers

    Have you REALLY experienced the Official PCGamer PC Gaming
    Experience(tm)?

    I have never been the victim of a griefer and I do play MMOs so I
    guess I failed already at the first one on the list. But #2 and 3 on
    your list have happened to me. Honestly, I think those two are going
    to happen sooner or later if you play any online game.

    I don't care about getting gud. I play games to relax, rarely for the challenge.

    I have never gotten that engrossed in the storyline in a video game.
    It is secondary to me. I prefer reading books, not video games.

    I have spent hours modding a game (Baldur's Gate 1 and 2) but I have
    played them excessively, so I guess I failed this one as well.

    Anyone who has been gaming as long as I have been on the PC and says
    they have never had to troubleshoot, I am going to call bullshit on
    that. I don't and won't believe you.

    As for the last one, I have six launchers ready to go (I actually
    needed to check) Steam, Epic, GOG, UbiSoft, EA Games and BattleNet.
    I think that means I failed this last one on PC Gamer's list as well -
    because, apparently, I will install anything to play more games.
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  • From Zaghadka@zaghadka@hotmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Tue Nov 18 16:29:31 2025
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    On Tue, 18 Nov 2025 10:39:38 -0500, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    So, yeah... it's a stupid list.

    +1
    --
    Zag

    Give me the liberty to know, to think, to believe,
    and to utter freely according to conscience, above
    all other liberties. ~John Milton
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@dtravel@sonic.net to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Tue Nov 18 18:27:25 2025
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    On 11/18/2025 7:39 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    PCGamer (remember them?) posted an article the other day entitled,
    "You haven't truly experienced PC gaming until you've done these 8
    things".* So the question is: have YOU truly experienced PC gaming?


    Let's look at the list:**
    - Been the victim of an incorrigible griefer
    - Bonded with squadmates as everything goes FUBAR
    - Teamed up with strangers and somehow clicked
    - 'Gotten gud' at a game barely anyone plays
    - Went down the flavor text rabbit hole
    - Spent hours modding a game and then not played it
    - Spent three hours troubleshooting
    - Not played a game because it was on one of those…
    other… launchers

    None of the above.
    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.
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  • From Anssi Saari@anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Wed Nov 19 16:04:52 2025
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    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> writes:

    PCGamer (remember them?) posted an article the other day entitled,
    "You haven't truly experienced PC gaming until you've done these 8
    things".* So the question is: have YOU truly experienced PC gaming?

    Let's look at the list:**
    - Been the victim of an incorrigible griefer
    - Bonded with squadmates as everything goes FUBAR
    - Teamed up with strangers and somehow clicked

    Hey, even with my limited online experience I guess I've had the last of
    those. And half of the other, I may have bonded with squadmates a little
    in general, not only when things went FUBAR. Or I guess it depends on
    the nature of FUBAR.

    - 'Gotten gud' at a game barely anyone plays

    Maybe? Or after reading the article, no.

    - Went down the flavor text rabbit hole

    No idea. Seems weird even after checking the article. So probably not.

    - Spent hours modding a game and then not played it

    No. Modding yes, usually not hours though. What would be the point of
    just modding and not playing? The tools like NMM or Vortex are hardly an enjoyable experience. Well, maybe if you count making the mods actually
    all work together, I understand that's an enjoyable meta-game in itself
    for some people. But that wasn't the point in the article.

    - Spent three hours troubleshooting

    Yah. Gsync's my nemesis. I probably give up in less than three hours in
    one session though and accept the game either sticks to 60 fps or if I
    want faster I can turn vsync off and it tears. Sometimes both seem to
    happen at the same time. So basically I don't *have* Gsync in a lot of
    games.

    Oh, I love the examples for this in the PC Gamer article. "Hi MarkMan7,
    I'm a Microsoft-approved third party tech support specialist. I'm sorry
    to hear you're going through that. Have you considered turning your
    computer off and on again?" That (i.e. the ridiculous self promotion by
    some clueless dork followed by useless advice) comes up just way too
    often when looking up anything Windows related. Same with the "someone
    asked your exact question on whatever but no one answered or the few
    responses didn't help."

    Other than that, it seems like this was about *hardware* troubleshooting
    of a new PC build. Usually no, I've been lucky. Otherwise, there was
    that one memory upgrade. What could go wrong with that? End result,
    RMA'd the RAM and looked for a replacement motherboard. Which turned out
    great in the end but the hours spent was probably a little more than
    three.

    - Not played a game because it was on one of those…
    other… launchers

    I couldn't care less what or whose launcher it is, only games
    matter.

    Oh, scoring. I count 0+.5+1+0+0+0+1+0 = 2.5. Not looking good but then I
    don't need validation from PC Gamer.

    The original article is actually a fun read. https://www.pcgamer.com/games/you-havent-experienced-pc-gaming-until-youve-done-these-things/
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  • From Zaghadka@zaghadka@hotmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Wed Nov 19 09:01:02 2025
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    On Tue, 18 Nov 2025 10:39:38 -0500, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    - Spent three hours troubleshooting

    On this note, it occurs to me that I have spent well over 3 hours,
    sometimes days and weeks, configuring Glide and DX wrappers, and
    DirectInput to XInput interfaces, and fixing keyboard driver issues
    trying to get old games to run.

    I've been mostly lucky with the contemporary stuff, but getting Crimson
    Skies to run led me to contact dege to get a custom exe built so that it
    would run properly with dgVoodoo2. I was on Vogons working to get it
    running with him.

    And then, well, I haven't played it much. Basically not past the first
    two missions. So, I guess it goes into the "modding a game you never
    play," too. I just wanted to see it run.

    By the way, if anyone wants to run Crimson Skies (2000) on Win11 for some reason, I got you covered. Just respond here. It's a good arcade,
    flight-stick game in steampunk planes.
    --
    Zag

    Give me the liberty to know, to think, to believe,
    and to utter freely according to conscience, above
    all other liberties. ~John Milton
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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@spallshurgenson@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Wed Nov 19 12:41:35 2025
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    On Wed, 19 Nov 2025 09:01:02 -0600, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 18 Nov 2025 10:39:38 -0500, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    - Spent three hours troubleshooting

    On this note, it occurs to me that I have spent well over 3 hours,
    sometimes days and weeks, configuring Glide and DX wrappers, and
    DirectInput to XInput interfaces, and fixing keyboard driver issues
    trying to get old games to run.

    I've been mostly lucky with the contemporary stuff, but getting Crimson
    Skies to run led me to contact dege to get a custom exe built so that it >would run properly with dgVoodoo2. I was on Vogons working to get it
    running with him.

    And then, well, I haven't played it much. Basically not past the first
    two missions. So, I guess it goes into the "modding a game you never
    play," too. I just wanted to see it run.

    Heh. Being a Real PC Gamer (tm) means not only that you do oodles of troubleshooting, but that you've come to enjoy the process! ;-)

    Although it used to be more fun before every guide you got was a
    poorly-made youtube video. Remember when you'd just get a helpful list
    of steps to blindly follow rather than a 15 minute video that takes 9
    minutes just to get to the good stuff?



    By the way, if anyone wants to run Crimson Skies (2000) on Win11 for some >reason, I got you covered. Just respond here. It's a good arcade, >flight-stick game in steampunk planes.

    I've a Win98 machine with a Voodoo3 should I need to scratch that
    itch, but post the info here anyway, for archival purposes (and in
    case I might want to play the game on modern hardware ;-)
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  • From Mike S.@Mike_S@nowhere.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Wed Nov 19 12:53:10 2025
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    On Wed, 19 Nov 2025 12:41:35 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    Heh. Being a Real PC Gamer (tm) means not only that you do oodles of >troubleshooting, but that you've come to enjoy the process! ;-)

    I never enjoyed the process itself but I do get immense satisfaction
    when I eventually solve the issue.
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  • From Zaghadka@zaghadka@hotmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Wed Nov 19 17:14:44 2025
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    On Wed, 19 Nov 2025 12:41:35 -0500, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    I've a Win98 machine with a Voodoo3 should I need to scratch that
    itch, but post the info here anyway, for archival purposes (and in
    case I might want to play the game on modern hardware ;-)

    Yeah, see? I get a thrill out of making anything from any period of PC
    gaming history run on a patched, latest version Windows machine. So I'm
    running all sorts of stuff that shouldn't on Windows 11 25H2 now, either
    native or in emulation or wrappers.

    You run it on legacy metal, which is also cool, but you'd be surprised
    how well things can run on the current OSes.

    It is highly entertaining for me to see my 12-core (24 virtual) system
    running something designed for a gen 1 Pentium at 90Mhz.
    --
    Zag

    Give me the liberty to know, to think, to believe,
    and to utter freely according to conscience, above
    all other liberties. ~John Milton
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  • From Justisaur@justisaur@yahoo.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Wed Nov 19 15:31:17 2025
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    On 11/19/2025 6:04 AM, Anssi Saari wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> writes:


    Oh, I love the examples for this in the PC Gamer article. "Hi MarkMan7,
    I'm a Microsoft-approved third party tech support specialist. I'm sorry
    to hear you're going through that. Have you considered turning your
    computer off and on again?"

    The number of times that's worked when I'm the tech support is
    remarkably high. Worked with another tech who said, reboot 3 times.
    The number of times *that* worked, also remarkably high.

    It really should be shut the system down, pull the power plug. If it's
    a laptop hold the power button for a full 30 seconds. Plug it back in
    and start it back up.

    Unfortunately people lie about rebooting, or there's more updates in the queue.

    That (i.e. the ridiculous self promotion by
    some clueless dork followed by useless advice) comes up just way too
    often when looking up anything Windows related. Same with the "someone
    asked your exact question on whatever but no one answered or the few responses didn't help."

    Always see "sfc scannow" which takes at least an hour, up to 3, and
    never seen it do anything.
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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@spallshurgenson@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Nov 20 10:27:58 2025
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    On Wed, 19 Nov 2025 15:31:17 -0800, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
    wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 6:04 AM, Anssi Saari wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> writes:

    It really should be shut the system down, pull the power plug. If it's
    a laptop hold the power button for a full 30 seconds. Plug it back in
    and start it back up.

    Unfortunately people lie about rebooting, or there's more updates in the >queue.

    I recall a trick to 'solve' that issue that went something along these
    lines:

    "There is a discontinuity on the power-socket causing a
    periodic interruption in the electrical voltage. (or similar
    sounding technical nonsense to bamboozle the user). It's usually
    a tiny bit of dust. Unplug the PC, shake the plug to dislodge
    any dust, then plug it back in and restart."

    If the device uses a Type A or Type C outlet, you could also just ask
    them to unplug the thing and then plug it back in rotated 180 degrees.
    ;-)

    But in the end it was all just a ploy to ensure the device actually
    got restarted when you asked them to do it..



    Always see "sfc scannow" which takes at least an hour, up to 3, and
    never seen it do anything.

    It works but it's not the panacea it's made out to be. It's sort of
    like how "run SCANDISK" or "Defrag your drive" used to be go-to
    answers for all problems. These tactics CAN catch issues --I've had
    SFC scannow-- find and repair things... but usually these are only
    when core Windows functions are having problems. Which isn't really
    that often anymore.

    But sfc is a useful tool, it can catch otherwise hard to diagnose
    issues and --especially importantly to tech-support-- it LOOKS
    complicated and technical, and --because it (like Scandisk or defrag)
    often takes hours to finish-- can be used to get people off the phone.
    "Just run this thing and your problem will be solved, 'kay? Bye!" ;-)


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  • From H1M3M@dontaltktome@nomail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Nov 20 16:38:48 2025
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    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    PCGamer (remember them?) posted an article the other day entitled,
    "You haven't truly experienced PC gaming until you've done these 8
    things".* So the question is: have YOU truly experienced PC gaming?


    Let's look at the list:** - Been the victim of an incorrigible
    griefer
    I have had to deal with Mortal Kombat II difficulty algorithm that
    pretty much cheats you, and the "enemy AI" reading my inputs. No online
    gaming required.
    - Bonded with squadmates as everything goes FUBAR
    Can't bond with you over all that ghetto-ass music playing over your
    Pound Store microphone (Team Fortress 2).
    - Teamed up with strangers and somehow clicked - 'Gotten gud' at a
    game barely anyone plays
    We rate people as "fresh" in Splatoon 3 for no other reason than to
    annoy them.
    - Went down the flavor text rabbit hole
    Uh? No idea what this is, but you usually get banned for anything other
    than plain text in the global chat
    - Spent hours modding a game and then not played it
    Nah, I just added extra radio stations to Fallout New Vegas and enjoyed
    the hell out of them (the game is pretty short on music, let's be realistic
    - Spent three hours troubleshooting
    I spent 3 days troubleshooting. No internet to ask a search engine
    - Not played a game because it was on one of those… other… launchers
    No. I did not play it because it was not another launcher. It was
    because the other launcher was ass. Battle.Net was great until they
    replaced with some Electron looking garbage.



    Sigh. At least PCGamer puts a decent show during the Not-E3. But let's
    spin this: "You haven't truly experienced PC gaming until you've
    experienced these 8 things"
    - Getting an error message indicating that you don't have enough EMS
    memory available.
    - While playing a DOS game under Windows 9X, you pressed the Win key and
    when you went back to the game, you were stuck with just sound and a
    black screen.
    - Had a fight with that playstation kid in school that insulted your
    computer and said that Sim City and Civilization were not real games
    because they did not have polygons or exploding things (Gandhi is
    looking at you right now).
    - Clicked the hell out of a unit in Warcraft II-III and Starcraft just
    to hear every funny quote
    - Had to leave the computer on the whole night to download Grand Theft
    Auto IV from Steam, one of those games games that would take more than
    10GB, on a 512kb ADSL line
    - Shed tears of happiness the first time you saw a game with video
    cutscenes running at true 640x480, non interlaced
    - Attempted to convince your parents of why you needed a 3D accelerator
    card or a RAM upgrade and how it would help with homework.
    - Microwaved a Hamster
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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@spallshurgenson@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Nov 20 11:56:05 2025
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    On Thu, 20 Nov 2025 16:38:48 +0100, H1M3M <dontaltktome@nomail.com>
    wrote:



    Sigh. At least PCGamer puts a decent show during the Not-E3. But let's
    spin this: "You haven't truly experienced PC gaming until you've
    experienced these 8 things"

    - Getting an error message indicating that you don't have enough EMS
    memory available.

    - While playing a DOS game under Windows 9X, you pressed the Win key and
    when you went back to the game, you were stuck with just sound and a
    black screen.

    - Had a fight with that playstation kid in school that insulted your
    computer and said that Sim City and Civilization were not real games
    because they did not have polygons or exploding things (Gandhi is
    looking at you right now).

    - Clicked the hell out of a unit in Warcraft II-III and Starcraft just
    to hear every funny quote

    - Had to leave the computer on the whole night to download Grand Theft
    Auto IV from Steam, one of those games games that would take more than
    10GB, on a 512kb ADSL line

    - Shed tears of happiness the first time you saw a game with video
    cutscenes running at true 640x480, non interlaced

    - Attempted to convince your parents of why you needed a 3D accelerator
    card or a RAM upgrade and how it would help with homework.

    - Microwaved a Hamster

    I mean, it's a bit biased towards people who've been playing thirty+
    years, but I love your list. No, I'll be the first to admit that you
    can be a REAL PC GAMER (tm) even if you've not experienced any of
    those things, but damn if your selection didn't make me smile.

    (well, except for the 'convince your parents' one, for obvious reasons
    ;-)

    The "windows key" one especially. Ohmigod, was that SO annoying.
    Especially since a lot of games (and not just the ones running in a
    DOS command shell) of that era didn't handle being pulled out of
    full-screen very gracefully, and you were lucky if the computer didn't blue-screen itself when that happened. Microsoft even released an
    applet to temporarily disable the key, it was such a problem.



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  • From candycanearter07@candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Nov 20 19:50:03 2025
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    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 15:39 this Tuesday (GMT):

    [You know what they say: if you can't think of anything
    else to write about, just find some article on the web
    and make fun of that. Not that I'm saying that's what
    I am doing here, of course. I'm just saying that's been
    known to happen ;-)]

    PCGamer (remember them?) posted an article the other day entitled,
    "You haven't truly experienced PC gaming until you've done these 8
    things".* So the question is: have YOU truly experienced PC gaming?


    Let's look at the list:**
    - Been the victim of an incorrigible griefer

    no lol

    - Bonded with squadmates as everything goes FUBAR

    i will admit ive bonded a little with people on like 2 hour ctf_2fort
    games

    - Teamed up with strangers and somehow clicked

    probably sometimes in l4d2?

    - 'Gotten gud' at a game barely anyone plays

    Does progressbar95 count

    - Went down the flavor text rabbit hole

    100000% YES i have spent hours scrolling through a games wiki sometimes

    - Spent hours modding a game and then not played it

    theres definitely a lot of games ive modded and then subsequently lost
    interest in, not sure how youre supposed to mod a game without playing
    it

    - Spent three hours troubleshooting

    im a linux user so take a wild guess

    - Not played a game because it was on one of thoseÂ…
    otherÂ… launchers

    100% (i dont think epic/the other one work on linux and steam is
    extremely pro linux and also has proton)

    The first thing that occurs to me that the first three of the items on
    that list don't seem to have anything to do with PC gaming
    specifically; they're just aspects of online gaming, good and bad. And
    if you don't care for online gaming, you may not have ever experienced
    these issues. I guess you're not a real PC Gamer!

    The next two are similarly not limited to PC gaming, and --again--
    don't really reflect the hobby either unless you're into specific
    types of game.

    The last three are really the only three that are really part and
    parcel with PC gaming. If you've never had to troubleshoot a PC game,
    then you are either extremely lucky, or extremely casual in your
    gaming. Our PCs are such wonderfully finicky beasts; dealing with bugs
    is half the fun! And the whole 'launcher' thing is equally as stupid
    --and unavoidable-- a part of the hobby too. Unless you're sticking to
    a tiny selection of games, you've bumped into that annoyance at one
    time or another.

    Myself, I think I'd count myself amongst the number of Real PC Gamers
    (TM), with thousands of games and decades of experience under the
    belt... and yet there are a number of items on that list I _haven't_ experienced. An incorrigible griefer? No, not really. I mean, sure
    I've experienced some assholes but I usually just mute them, or they
    get kicked, or I find a different server. I don't really feel
    victimized by them. I've never played a game only to mod it. I've
    played a lot of games that people here may never have experienced, but
    have I 'gotten gud' at them? Not really. And I _hate_ reading text in computer games.

    So, yeah... it's a stupid list. But that of course is the purpose
    (much like this response): it's designed to inspire conversation
    rather than actually saying anything insightful. So I guess it
    succeeded there.

    Have you REALLY experienced the Official PCGamer PC Gaming
    Experience(tm)?







    ----
    * here's the story https://www.pcgamer.com/games/you-havent-experienced-pc-gaming-until-youve-done-these-things/
    ** I rearranged the order for my own nefarious purposes. Muahahaha.


    Oh of course its pcgamer, lol
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  • From candycanearter07@candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Nov 20 19:50:06 2025
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    Mike S <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote at 18:58 this Tuesday (GMT):
    On Tue, 18 Nov 2025 10:39:38 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson
    <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    Let's look at the list:**
    - Been the victim of an incorrigible griefer
    - Bonded with squadmates as everything goes FUBAR
    - Teamed up with strangers and somehow clicked
    - 'Gotten gud' at a game barely anyone plays
    - Went down the flavor text rabbit hole
    - Spent hours modding a game and then not played it
    - Spent three hours troubleshooting
    - Not played a game because it was on one of thoseÂ…
    otherÂ… launchers

    Have you REALLY experienced the Official PCGamer PC Gaming
    Experience(tm)?

    I have never been the victim of a griefer and I do play MMOs so I
    guess I failed already at the first one on the list. But #2 and 3 on
    your list have happened to me. Honestly, I think those two are going
    to happen sooner or later if you play any online game.

    I don't care about getting gud. I play games to relax, rarely for the challenge.

    I try not to care but I do get frustrated easily when someone else is

    I have never gotten that engrossed in the storyline in a video game.
    It is secondary to me. I prefer reading books, not video games.

    I'm the oppsite :D

    I have spent hours modding a game (Baldur's Gate 1 and 2) but I have
    played them excessively, so I guess I failed this one as well.

    I've spent hours modding balatro

    Anyone who has been gaming as long as I have been on the PC and says
    they have never had to troubleshoot, I am going to call bullshit on
    that. I don't and won't believe you.

    real gamers just have someone else do it :P

    As for the last one, I have six launchers ready to go (I actually
    needed to check) Steam, Epic, GOG, UbiSoft, EA Games and BattleNet.
    I think that means I failed this last one on PC Gamer's list as well - because, apparently, I will install anything to play more games.
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  • From H1M3M@dontaltktome@nomail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Nov 21 10:04:39 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    I mean, it's a bit biased towards people who've been playing thirty+
    years, but I love your list. No, I'll be the first to admit that you
    can be a REAL PC GAMER (tm) even if you've not experienced any of
    those things, but damn if your selection didn't make me smile.


    Yep, I knew I was stuck in the past, but even like that I needed to pull
    a "You weren't a real PC gamer in the 90s". Something about usenet tends
    to move my brain back in time (or maybe modern PC gaming does not feel
    that much as PC gaming, but getting the leftovers of console gaming
    unless you aim for true indies). What annoys me about PCgamer's list is
    that half of it is "online multiplayer gamer" than "PC gamer". Maybe
    it's just me, since I was never able to get into online gaming. By
    the time I had internet at home I was too busy with work to play online
    games, and all the friends I had were absorbed by Xbox Live.
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  • From Justisaur@justisaur@yahoo.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Nov 21 07:11:52 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On 11/20/2025 7:27 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Wed, 19 Nov 2025 15:31:17 -0800, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
    wrote:
    On 11/19/2025 6:04 AM, Anssi Saari wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> writes:

    It really should be shut the system down, pull the power plug. If it's
    a laptop hold the power button for a full 30 seconds. Plug it back in
    and start it back up.

    Unfortunately people lie about rebooting, or there's more updates in the
    queue.

    I recall a trick to 'solve' that issue that went something along these
    lines:

    "There is a discontinuity on the power-socket causing a
    periodic interruption in the electrical voltage. (or similar
    sounding technical nonsense to bamboozle the user). It's usually
    a tiny bit of dust. Unplug the PC, shake the plug to dislodge
    any dust, then plug it back in and restart."

    If the device uses a Type A or Type C outlet, you could also just ask
    them to unplug the thing and then plug it back in rotated 180 degrees.
    ;-)

    But in the end it was all just a ploy to ensure the device actually
    got restarted when you asked them to do it..



    Always see "sfc scannow" which takes at least an hour, up to 3, and
    never seen it do anything.

    It works but it's not the panacea it's made out to be. It's sort of
    like how "run SCANDISK" or "Defrag your drive" used to be go-to
    answers for all problems. These tactics CAN catch issues --I've had
    SFC scannow-- find and repair things... but usually these are only
    when core Windows functions are having problems. Which isn't really
    that often anymore.

    But sfc is a useful tool, it can catch otherwise hard to diagnose
    issues and --especially importantly to tech-support-- it LOOKS
    complicated and technical, and --because it (like Scandisk or defrag)
    often takes hours to finish-- can be used to get people off the phone.
    "Just run this thing and your problem will be solved, 'kay? Bye!" ;-)

    One of the few things I liked about working at Apple (contractor, not
    actually employed by them at their helpdesk) was they had metrics for callbacks within some time period. I had the lowest of anyone working
    there. I actually fixed things.

    It would've been much better if they actually used that for rewards or
    who they were hiring into Apple, than whatever they were doing with
    them, if anything.
    --
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  • From Anssi Saari@anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Nov 21 17:21:23 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> writes:

    On 11/19/2025 6:04 AM, Anssi Saari wrote:

    Oh, I love the examples for this in the PC Gamer article. "Hi MarkMan7,
    I'm a Microsoft-approved third party tech support specialist. I'm sorry
    to hear you're going through that. Have you considered turning your
    computer off and on again?"

    The number of times that's worked when I'm the tech support is
    remarkably high. Worked with another tech who said, reboot 3
    times. The number of times *that* worked, also remarkably high.

    Well, the former I believe. And if it works, the latter does
    too. Especially since I just "fixed" the 4G modem in my router by
    (remotely) restarting it. Unfortunately, rebooting the router doesn't
    affect the modem but a little searching told me what AT command to send
    for a reboot. And yes, sending AT commands like it's the 1990s. Using
    PPP too...

    But really, if it's a new PC build and there's a hardware issue or it
    needs a BIOS update (like mentioned in the PC Gamer article), rebooting
    isn't going to help.

    Always see "sfc scannow" which takes at least an hour, up to 3, and
    never seen it do anything.

    I have a vague memory it was useful for some things, if stuff was really
    broken in a way sfc knows how to handle. I once made a booboo in Windows
    XP and managed to enter deltree system (or was it system32) in the
    windows directory. Thankfully the computer was slow so only some files
    were deleted before I realized. I think sfc returned some files deleted
    and the system was operational. Later I realized the 16-bit subsystem
    wasn't working and after some head scratching realized I needed to
    manually dig up a couple of more files for it.
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  • From Anssi Saari@anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Nov 21 17:31:12 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> writes:

    "There is a discontinuity on the power-socket causing a
    periodic interruption in the electrical voltage. (or similar
    sounding technical nonsense to bamboozle the user). It's usually
    a tiny bit of dust. Unplug the PC, shake the plug to dislodge
    any dust, then plug it back in and restart."

    Discontinuity indeed. Sometimes it's all too real. I remember there was
    once this office where a power outlet was right behind my desk, in the
    middle. And *of course* one day I was stretching my legs and managed to
    pull it. Desktop computer back then too so instant power off. Sigh.

    I think I moved the desk and added some tape to avoid further
    discontinuities.
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  • From Zaghadka@zaghadka@hotmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Nov 21 09:34:25 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Fri, 21 Nov 2025 10:04:39 +0100, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    H1M3M wrote:

    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    I mean, it's a bit biased towards people who've been playing thirty+
    years, but I love your list. No, I'll be the first to admit that you
    can be a REAL PC GAMER (tm) even if you've not experienced any of
    those things, but damn if your selection didn't make me smile.


    Yep, I knew I was stuck in the past, but even like that I needed to pull
    a "You weren't a real PC gamer in the 90s". Something about usenet tends
    to move my brain back in time (or maybe modern PC gaming does not feel
    that much as PC gaming, but getting the leftovers of console gaming
    unless you aim for true indies). __What annoys me about PCgamer's list is >that half of it is "online multiplayer gamer" than "PC gamer".__ Maybe
    it's just me, since I was never able to get into online gaming. By
    the time I had internet at home I was too busy with work to play online >games, and all the friends I had were absorbed by Xbox Live.

    (emph. added)

    Exactly this. It seems more like an ad trying to shame established PC
    gamers into multiplayer. "You're not a real gamer if you're not online."
    The industry has good reason to encourage it, as zero-day purchases and
    server sunsets are *features* of multiplayer and keep the money train
    chugging away.

    Publishers love the license to print money with releases up to and
    including Battlefield 365, or COD infinity. I'm actually surprised some
    of them haven't gone to a subscription model rather than rely on MTX.

    MP, both co-op and competitive, is simply worth more money to the
    industry. When those lobbies empty, it's time to buy the sequel. Kaching!

    So, the list is tonedeaf to me as well. I know what I want, and it ain't
    that. I've enjoyed co-op Borderlands 2 and BG3, but I don't need a lobby
    of strangers for that, nor a server. I can invite my friends.

    Shit, now I'm yearning for UT Assault Pack LAN matches.

    What a bunch of drek online multiplayer has become. Who wants to game
    with a bunch of insulting, spawn camping, spl0it using, foul mouthed, misogynist 14-yos? And some never outgrow it. Nothing more pathetic than
    a 38-yo with the same quality of character trying to pwn the newbs.

    </mild rant>
    --
    Zag

    Give me the liberty to know, to think, to believe,
    and to utter freely according to conscience, above
    all other liberties. ~John Milton
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  • From Anssi Saari@anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Nov 21 17:37:33 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> writes:

    The "windows key" one especially. Ohmigod, was that SO annoying.
    Especially since a lot of games (and not just the ones running in a
    DOS command shell) of that era didn't handle being pulled out of
    full-screen very gracefully, and you were lucky if the computer didn't blue-screen itself when that happened. Microsoft even released an
    applet to temporarily disable the key, it was such a problem.

    And it endures. At least some games sometimes offer me only a black
    screen if I switch away and back again, windows key or otherwise. Full
    screen mode only so loving windowed borderless for those games where you constantly look up stuff.

    BTW, my gaming keyboard even has a "gaming mode" which by default
    just changes backlight color and *disables the Windows key*.
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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@spallshurgenson@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Nov 21 10:51:17 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Fri, 21 Nov 2025 07:11:52 -0800, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
    wrote:


    One of the few things I liked about working at Apple (contractor, not >actually employed by them at their helpdesk) was they had metrics for >callbacks within some time period. I had the lowest of anyone working >there. I actually fixed things.

    To be fair, it could be that the customers just went, "Man, those
    Apple guys are so incompetent/rude/slow" and swore off ever calling
    again.

    (I kid, I kid)

    It would've been much better if they actually used that for rewards or
    who they were hiring into Apple, than whatever they were doing with
    them, if anything.

    Do they still call them "Geniuses"? Talk about overselling! ;-)
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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@spallshurgenson@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Nov 21 16:05:31 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Fri, 21 Nov 2025 17:31:12 +0200, Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> writes:

    "There is a discontinuity on the power-socket causing a
    periodic interruption in the electrical voltage. (or similar
    sounding technical nonsense to bamboozle the user). It's usually
    a tiny bit of dust. Unplug the PC, shake the plug to dislodge
    any dust, then plug it back in and restart."



    Discontinuity indeed. Sometimes it's all too real. I remember there was
    once this office where a power outlet was right behind my desk, in the >middle. And *of course* one day I was stretching my legs and managed to
    pull it. Desktop computer back then too so instant power off. Sigh.

    I think I moved the desk and added some tape to avoid further >discontinuities.



    It's not really the same thing, but it reminded me of the following:
    I've one of those 'under monitor power centers' (basically a surge-protector/power-strip).* The number of times I've accidentally
    pushed my keyboard back onto the main power button and watching the
    computer and all the monitors suddenly blink off is... well, it
    happened more than a few times, anyway.

    The solution, of course, would be to either move the power-bar, or
    cover the button or just, you know, STOP STUPIDLY PUSHING THE KEYBOARD
    AGAINST THE FUCKING BUTTON!!!1!!! but I've done none of these things,
    so it is only a matter of time before it happens again.

    Don't tell me I don't like living dangerously. ;-)





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  • From Xocyll@Xocyll@gmx.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sat Nov 22 06:14:45 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On Fri, 21 Nov 2025 17:31:12 +0200, Anssi Saari ><anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> writes:

    "There is a discontinuity on the power-socket causing a
    periodic interruption in the electrical voltage. (or similar
    sounding technical nonsense to bamboozle the user). It's usually
    a tiny bit of dust. Unplug the PC, shake the plug to dislodge
    any dust, then plug it back in and restart."



    Discontinuity indeed. Sometimes it's all too real. I remember there was >>once this office where a power outlet was right behind my desk, in the >>middle. And *of course* one day I was stretching my legs and managed to >>pull it. Desktop computer back then too so instant power off. Sigh.

    I think I moved the desk and added some tape to avoid further >>discontinuities.



    It's not really the same thing, but it reminded me of the following:
    I've one of those 'under monitor power centers' (basically a >surge-protector/power-strip).* The number of times I've accidentally
    pushed my keyboard back onto the main power button and watching the
    computer and all the monitors suddenly blink off is... well, it
    happened more than a few times, anyway.

    The solution, of course, would be to either move the power-bar, or
    cover the button or just, you know, STOP STUPIDLY PUSHING THE KEYBOARD >AGAINST THE FUCKING BUTTON!!!1!!! but I've done none of these things,
    so it is only a matter of time before it happens again.

    Don't tell me I don't like living dangerously. ;-)

    Take a small pill bottle, cut it down to make a cover, and duct tape it
    over the button.

    It will NOT be pretty, but it will work.

    * like this one! >https://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-Under-Monitor-Protection-TMC-6/dp/B0000AKA90

    Wait, recessed buttons?
    Maybe the pill bottle thing won't work, or will have to be cut way down.

    Maybe a little strip of metal taped over it?

    Xocyll
    --
    I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
    a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
    Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
    FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr
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  • From Xocyll@Xocyll@gmx.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sat Nov 22 06:29:52 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:


    [You know what they say: if you can't think of anything
    else to write about, just find some article on the web
    and make fun of that. Not that I'm saying that's what
    I am doing here, of course. I'm just saying that's been
    known to happen ;-)]

    PCGamer (remember them?) posted an article the other day entitled,
    "You haven't truly experienced PC gaming until you've done these 8
    things".* So the question is: have YOU truly experienced PC gaming?


    Let's look at the list:**
    - Been the victim of an incorrigible griefer

    Before internet even.

    - Bonded with squadmates as everything goes FUBAR

    Didn't team with morons and in a pick up team where things went FUBAR
    cause morons, I never teamed with them again.

    When you have a Leroy Jenkins on the team, you don't "bond with them"
    you blacklist them.

    Wow players apparently don't do this, one of the reasons I do not play
    that.

    - Teamed up with strangers and somehow clicked

    Not usually.

    - 'Gotten gud' at a game barely anyone plays

    I play what I play, don't give a shit how many people play it.
    I have never, ever, ever referred to being good at a game as having
    "gotten gud."

    - Went down the flavor text rabbit hole

    Not sure what you mean by this, or they mean by this - flavor text?

    - Spent hours modding a game and then not played it

    Not a retard so no.
    Play without mods or mod and play.

    - Spent three hours troubleshooting

    3 hours, hah, amateurs.

    - Not played a game because it was on one of those…
    other… launchers

    I only buy through steam, although I will take gog freebies.
    No interest in epic or any other launchers.

    The first thing that occurs to me that the first three of the items on
    that list don't seem to have anything to do with PC gaming
    specifically; they're just aspects of online gaming, good and bad. And
    if you don't care for online gaming, you may not have ever experienced
    these issues. I guess you're not a real PC Gamer!

    I was a "real PC Gamer" before online games even existed.

    Once again a magazine has a self referencing list that it declares is a checklist to be a real gamer.

    What they are really saying is "If you don't play like me, you're not a
    "Real Gamer"."

    What a load of shit.

    <snip>

    Xocyll
    --
    I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
    a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
    Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
    FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr
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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@spallshurgenson@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sat Nov 22 09:58:41 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Sat, 22 Nov 2025 06:14:45 -0500, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the >entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:



    It's not really the same thing, but it reminded me of the following:
    I've one of those 'under monitor power centers' (basically a >>surge-protector/power-strip).* The number of times I've accidentally
    pushed my keyboard back onto the main power button and watching the >>computer and all the monitors suddenly blink off is... well, it
    happened more than a few times, anyway.



    Take a small pill bottle, cut it down to make a cover, and duct tape it
    over the button.
    Maybe the pill bottle thing won't work, or will have to be cut way down. >Maybe a little strip of metal taped over it?



    Or just two raised edges on either side of the button so the keyboard
    impacts that rather than the button itself. Over the years, I've
    thought of all these ideas and probably more.

    I've implemented none of them.

    'Cause I live on the wild side! ;-)


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  • From Xocyll@Xocyll@gmx.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Mon Nov 24 07:43:38 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On Sat, 22 Nov 2025 06:14:45 -0500, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the >>entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:



    It's not really the same thing, but it reminded me of the following:
    I've one of those 'under monitor power centers' (basically a >>>surge-protector/power-strip).* The number of times I've accidentally >>>pushed my keyboard back onto the main power button and watching the >>>computer and all the monitors suddenly blink off is... well, it
    happened more than a few times, anyway.



    Take a small pill bottle, cut it down to make a cover, and duct tape it >>over the button.
    Maybe the pill bottle thing won't work, or will have to be cut way down. >>Maybe a little strip of metal taped over it?



    Or just two raised edges on either side of the button so the keyboard
    impacts that rather than the button itself.

    Except a corner of the keyboard, or something that happened to be behind
    the keyboard gets pushed between the bars.

    The metal strip type of cover would protect from all.

    Over the years, I've
    thought of all these ideas and probably more.

    I've implemented none of them.

    'Cause I live on the wild side! ;-)

    In a Steve Martin "Wild and Crazy Guy" type way or a Motley Crue "Wild
    Side" way?

    A third alternative?

    Xocyll
    --
    I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@dtravel@sonic.net to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Mon Nov 24 07:00:13 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On 11/24/2025 4:43 AM, Xocyll wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On Sat, 22 Nov 2025 06:14:45 -0500, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
    entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:



    It's not really the same thing, but it reminded me of the following:
    I've one of those 'under monitor power centers' (basically a
    surge-protector/power-strip).* The number of times I've accidentally
    pushed my keyboard back onto the main power button and watching the
    computer and all the monitors suddenly blink off is... well, it
    happened more than a few times, anyway.



    Take a small pill bottle, cut it down to make a cover, and duct tape it
    over the button.
    Maybe the pill bottle thing won't work, or will have to be cut way down. >>> Maybe a little strip of metal taped over it?



    Or just two raised edges on either side of the button so the keyboard
    impacts that rather than the button itself.

    Except a corner of the keyboard, or something that happened to be behind
    the keyboard gets pushed between the bars.

    Move the <censored> power strip.
    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.
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  • From Justisaur@justisaur@yahoo.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Mon Nov 24 13:26:39 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On 11/21/2025 7:51 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Fri, 21 Nov 2025 07:11:52 -0800, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
    wrote:


    One of the few things I liked about working at Apple (contractor, not
    actually employed by them at their helpdesk) was they had metrics for
    callbacks within some time period. I had the lowest of anyone working
    there. I actually fixed things.

    To be fair, it could be that the customers just went, "Man, those
    Apple guys are so incompetent/rude/slow" and swore off ever calling
    again.

    (I kid, I kid)

    It would've been much better if they actually used that for rewards or
    who they were hiring into Apple, than whatever they were doing with
    them, if anything.

    Do they still call them "Geniuses"? Talk about overselling! ;-)

    I was there long before they had apple stores and "Geniuses".
    --
    -Justisaur

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  • From Justisaur@justisaur@yahoo.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Mon Nov 24 14:07:02 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On 11/24/2025 7:00 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 11/24/2025 4:43 AM, Xocyll wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
    entrails of the porn spammer to utter  "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On Sat, 22 Nov 2025 06:14:45 -0500, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the >>>> entrails of the porn spammer to utter  "The Augury is good, the signs >>>> say:



    It's not really the same thing, but it reminded me of the following: >>>>> I've one of those 'under monitor power centers' (basically a
    surge-protector/power-strip).* The number of times I've accidentally >>>>> pushed my keyboard back onto the main power button and watching the
    computer and all the monitors suddenly blink off is... well, it
    happened more than a few times, anyway.



    Take a small pill bottle, cut it down to make a cover, and duct tape it >>>> over the button.
    Maybe the pill bottle thing won't work, or will have to be cut way
    down.
    Maybe a little strip of metal taped over it?



    Or just two raised edges on either side of the button so the keyboard
    impacts that rather than the button itself.

    Except a corner of the keyboard, or something that happened to be behind
    the keyboard gets pushed between the bars.

    Move the <censored> power strip.


    My daughter had this problem, kept kicking the plug and knocking the
    strip out of it. I kept rearranging things and finally got it it didn't happen.

    I *thought* my daughter's desktop had blown out during a power outage recently, and finally got around to troubleshooting it, taking it out
    from under her desk, I noticed the front panel was partially off.

    I banged it back on, but nothing still. Took the side panel off and
    hooked it to the cords from my desktop. The fan came on, which was more
    than it did before, but no display.

    I disconnected the SSD & video card and tried running it off the mb
    video. I got one beep, but still nothing. It's an old Lenovo, couldn't
    find anything useful on that (was a hand me down from her great aunt,
    which was better HW wise than my older one.

    It had 4 sticks of memory so tried removing and booting in various
    configs (would've been nice if I could've found the manual.) Sometimes
    I'd get a beep and sometimes I wouldn't. Once I got a whole lot of
    beeps, but still no video. Put those back, then tried unplugging and
    repluging in the power on the MB, no video still. I had in the back of
    my mind that I might've disabled the on-board video. So I plugged back
    in the video card & SSD. It booted to windows.

    I'm assuming she kicked it hard enough to knock the front panel slightly
    off and something loose. Unfortunately there's no room to put it up
    anywhere, the monitor, mouse & KB take up the whole tiny desk. The
    monitor would be up too high if I put the desktop under it, the KB might
    not even have room at that point.
    --
    -Justisaur

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  • From Justisaur@justisaur@yahoo.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Mon Nov 24 14:19:11 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On 11/21/2025 7:34 AM, Zaghadka wrote:
    On Fri, 21 Nov 2025 10:04:39 +0100, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    H1M3M wrote:

    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    I mean, it's a bit biased towards people who've been playing thirty+
    years, but I love your list. No, I'll be the first to admit that you
    can be a REAL PC GAMER (tm) even if you've not experienced any of
    those things, but damn if your selection didn't make me smile.


    Yep, I knew I was stuck in the past, but even like that I needed to pull
    a "You weren't a real PC gamer in the 90s". Something about usenet tends
    to move my brain back in time (or maybe modern PC gaming does not feel
    that much as PC gaming, but getting the leftovers of console gaming
    unless you aim for true indies). __What annoys me about PCgamer's list is
    that half of it is "online multiplayer gamer" than "PC gamer".__ Maybe
    it's just me, since I was never able to get into online gaming. By
    the time I had internet at home I was too busy with work to play online
    games, and all the friends I had were absorbed by Xbox Live.

    (emph. added)

    Exactly this. It seems more like an ad trying to shame established PC
    gamers into multiplayer. "You're not a real gamer if you're not online."
    The industry has good reason to encourage it, as zero-day purchases and server sunsets are *features* of multiplayer and keep the money train chugging away.


    It still doesn't even make sense, Modding a game to never play it?

    *Doh!* I forgot everything's written by AI now. Now it makes sense.

    Publishers love the license to print money with releases up to and
    including Battlefield 365, or COD infinity. I'm actually surprised some
    of them haven't gone to a subscription model rather than rely on MTX.

    You can't resell all the MTX again if you go subscription.
    --
    -Justisaur

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  • From Xocyll@Xocyll@gmx.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Tue Nov 25 08:33:18 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> looked up from reading the
    entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On 11/24/2025 4:43 AM, Xocyll wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
    entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On Sat, 22 Nov 2025 06:14:45 -0500, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the >>>> entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:



    It's not really the same thing, but it reminded me of the following: >>>>> I've one of those 'under monitor power centers' (basically a
    surge-protector/power-strip).* The number of times I've accidentally >>>>> pushed my keyboard back onto the main power button and watching the
    computer and all the monitors suddenly blink off is... well, it
    happened more than a few times, anyway.



    Take a small pill bottle, cut it down to make a cover, and duct tape it >>>> over the button.
    Maybe the pill bottle thing won't work, or will have to be cut way down. >>>> Maybe a little strip of metal taped over it?



    Or just two raised edges on either side of the button so the keyboard
    impacts that rather than the button itself.

    Except a corner of the keyboard, or something that happened to be behind
    the keyboard gets pushed between the bars.

    Move the <censored> power strip.

    Sometimes that is not an option - plug placement vs desk position.

    Sometimes there is only one place to put the desk and one plug you can
    access so the power bar has to go where it is.
    Mine is under the desk, if I stretch, my feet hit it, but luckily I have
    not kicked anything loose.

    Then again in the apt I rarely wear shoes, so I don't kick hard when
    stretching since that can end up being quite painful and sometimes
    bloody.

    Xocyll
    --
    I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
    a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
    Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
    FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr
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  • From Mike S.@Mike_S@nowhere.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Tue Nov 25 11:29:38 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Mon, 24 Nov 2025 14:19:11 -0800, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    It still doesn't even make sense, Modding a game to never play it?

    How about spending more time troubleshooting a game than actually
    playing it when you finally got it working?

    I am not sure if I ever did that but it wouldn't surprise me if I had.
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  • From H1M3M@dontaltktome@nomail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Tue Nov 25 18:02:34 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    Justisaur wrote:

    It still doesn't even make sense, Modding a game to never play it?


    As stupid as it sounds, I have a variant of that, but involving hardware:
    - Spending hours, then days hacking and exploiting a console (PS3 was
    the last one for me) to "unlock the potential". Region free, being able
    to play modded games that restore features, upgrading to a bigger drive
    so that I can play everything with minimal load times... Then I as soon
    as I get to playing, I forget about it.
    - It's been years of intermittently working on my retro PC. Repairs, improvements, adding more functionalities. Right now I could finally
    play Embodiment of the Scarlett Devil, with all the japanese text
    displaying correctly, running at the right speed, no need for 20
    community patches... And by the time the game is ready to run, the same
    thing as with the PS3 happens.

    I usually get a bigger thrill from tinkering with gaming hardware than
    gaming itself. Get everything running on original hardware, FPGA scalers
    to have pixel perfect graphics... And in the end I'm playing Loom on
    ScummVM, or Secret of Mana 2 on Snes9x, while all the work I did
    amounted to another metal box sitting on the storage.


    Reminds me of a joke about software software pirates...

    [Pirate]: "I have every game you can imagine, from every country in the
    world. From the shovelware, to the most obscure edition. You name it, I
    have it. In fact, I just downloaded every rom that released yesterday. [Friend]: "Cool, and what are you going to play?"
    [Pirate}: "Play the games? I can't, I'm too busy pirating them!"
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  • From Justisaur@justisaur@yahoo.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Tue Nov 25 16:08:25 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On 11/25/2025 9:02 AM, H1M3M wrote:
    Justisaur wrote:

    It still doesn't even make sense, Modding a game to never play it?


    As stupid as it sounds, I have a variant of that, but involving hardware:
    - Spending hours, then days hacking and exploiting a console (PS3 was
    the last one for me) to "unlock the potential". Region free, being able
    to play modded games that restore features, upgrading to a bigger drive
    so that I can play everything with minimal load times... Then I as soon
    as I get to playing, I forget about it.
    - It's been years of intermittently working on my retro PC. Repairs, improvements, adding more functionalities. Right now I could finally
    play Embodiment of the Scarlett Devil, with all the japanese text
    displaying correctly, running at the right speed, no need for 20
    community patches... And by the time the game is ready to run, the same
    thing as with the PS3 happens.

    I usually get a bigger thrill from tinkering with gaming hardware than
    gaming itself. Get everything running on original hardware, FPGA scalers
    to have pixel perfect graphics...  And in the end I'm playing Loom on ScummVM, or Secret of Mana 2 on Snes9x, while all the work  I did
    amounted to another metal box sitting on the storage.


    Reminds me of a joke about software software pirates...

    [Pirate]: "I have every game you can imagine, from every country in the world. From the shovelware, to the most obscure edition. You name it, I
    have it. In fact, I just downloaded every rom that released yesterday. [Friend]: "Cool, and what are you going to play?"
    [Pirate}: "Play the games? I can't, I'm too busy pirating them!"

    LOL!

    You really have low effort now. I was able to find a version of
    Barbarian I could just play in a web page earlier (o.k. it took me half
    a dozen pages to find one that worked,) and I had a hankering for
    playing syndicate and found it playable on a web page just a few minutes
    ago too.

    The links in case someone wanted to play them and I have them handy:

    https://cthulhu28.itch.io/barbariantuw
    https://classicreload.com/syndicate.html
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  • From candycanearter07@candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Wed Dec 3 19:50:15 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    H1M3M <dontaltktome@nomail.com> wrote at 17:02 this Tuesday (GMT):
    Justisaur wrote:

    It still doesn't even make sense, Modding a game to never play it?


    As stupid as it sounds, I have a variant of that, but involving hardware:
    - Spending hours, then days hacking and exploiting a console (PS3 was
    the last one for me) to "unlock the potential". Region free, being able
    to play modded games that restore features, upgrading to a bigger drive
    so that I can play everything with minimal load times... Then I as soon
    as I get to playing, I forget about it.
    - It's been years of intermittently working on my retro PC. Repairs, improvements, adding more functionalities. Right now I could finally
    play Embodiment of the Scarlett Devil, with all the japanese text
    displaying correctly, running at the right speed, no need for 20
    community patches... And by the time the game is ready to run, the same
    thing as with the PS3 happens.

    I usually get a bigger thrill from tinkering with gaming hardware than
    gaming itself. Get everything running on original hardware, FPGA scalers
    to have pixel perfect graphics... And in the end I'm playing Loom on ScummVM, or Secret of Mana 2 on Snes9x, while all the work I did
    amounted to another metal box sitting on the storage.


    Reminds me of a joke about software software pirates...

    [Pirate]: "I have every game you can imagine, from every country in the world. From the shovelware, to the most obscure edition. You name it, I
    have it. In fact, I just downloaded every rom that released yesterday. [Friend]: "Cool, and what are you going to play?"
    [Pirate}: "Play the games? I can't, I'm too busy pirating them!"


    I just have a bad attention span and currently a balatro addiction too
    --
    user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom
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