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    From Lynn McGuire@lynnmcguire5@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage on Tue Nov 28 21:04:05 2023
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage

    “Seagate CORVAULT 4U106 Updated with 2.5PB Capacity”

    https://www.storagereview.com/news/seagate-corvault-4u106-updated-with-2-5pb-capacity

    Now that is a rack !

    Lynn
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  • From VanguardLH@V@nguard.LH to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage on Tue Nov 28 21:28:13 2023
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage

    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    Seagate CORVAULT 4U106 Updated with 2.5PB Capacity https://www.storagereview.com/news/seagate-corvault-4u106-updated-with-2-5pb-capacity

    https://www.insight.com/en_US/shop/product/R4106I190800002/SEAGATE/R4106I190800002/CORVAULT-4U106-WITH-106X-18TB-STRAYCORVAULT-4U106-RAID-12G-SAS/
    $66.398.99 (remember to add the sale tax). Yeah, just pocket change.
    And that's just the 106X 18TB array for a 1.9PB JOBD. Not likely any
    company will buy this that doesn't also buy support, so add that cost.
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  • From Char Jackson@none@none.invalid to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage on Tue Nov 28 23:01:56 2023
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage

    On Tue, 28 Nov 2023 21:28:13 -0600, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    Seagate CORVAULT 4U106 Updated with 2.5PB Capacity
    https://www.storagereview.com/news/seagate-corvault-4u106-updated-with-2-5pb-capacity

    https://www.insight.com/en_US/shop/product/R4106I190800002/SEAGATE/R4106I190800002/CORVAULT-4U106-WITH-106X-18TB-STRAYCORVAULT-4U106-RAID-12G-SAS/
    $66.398.99 (remember to add the sale tax). Yeah, just pocket change.
    And that's just the 106X 18TB array for a 1.9PB JOBD. Not likely any
    company will buy this that doesn't also buy support, so add that cost.

    I don't know how many organizations actually need this kind of storage, and most
    who do are probably getting it from one of the major cloud storage providers, especially AWS. Having said that, the best customer for a 2.5PB vault might be the cloud storage providers themselves. As for the cost, it really is just pocket change.

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  • From Lynn McGuire@lynnmcguire5@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage on Wed Nov 29 15:49:18 2023
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage

    On 11/28/2023 11:01 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Nov 2023 21:28:13 -0600, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    “Seagate CORVAULT 4U106 Updated with 2.5PB Capacity”
    https://www.storagereview.com/news/seagate-corvault-4u106-updated-with-2-5pb-capacity

    https://www.insight.com/en_US/shop/product/R4106I190800002/SEAGATE/R4106I190800002/CORVAULT-4U106-WITH-106X-18TB-STRAYCORVAULT-4U106-RAID-12G-SAS/
    $66.398.99 (remember to add the sale tax). Yeah, just pocket change.
    And that's just the 106X 18TB array for a 1.9PB JOBD. Not likely any
    company will buy this that doesn't also buy support, so add that cost.

    I don't know how many organizations actually need this kind of storage, and most
    who do are probably getting it from one of the major cloud storage providers, especially AWS. Having said that, the best customer for a 2.5PB vault might be
    the cloud storage providers themselves. As for the cost, it really is just pocket change.

    The NSA. The CIA. The FBI. The DOJ. Several other three and four
    letter agencies.

    Any and all of the Fortune 5,000 companies, especially the engineering companies.

    When I worked for TXU back in the 1980s, we had a GIS system built on a
    IBM 3090 with 300 freestanding disk drives occupying a basement the size
    of a football field. It looked like that movie Alien in the scene with
    all of the pods with baby aliens ready for transplantation in them.

    Lynn


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  • From Lynn McGuire@lynnmcguire5@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage on Wed Nov 29 19:31:23 2023
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage

    On 11/28/2023 9:28 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    “Seagate CORVAULT 4U106 Updated with 2.5PB Capacity”
    https://www.storagereview.com/news/seagate-corvault-4u106-updated-with-2-5pb-capacity

    https://www.insight.com/en_US/shop/product/R4106I190800002/SEAGATE/R4106I190800002/CORVAULT-4U106-WITH-106X-18TB-STRAYCORVAULT-4U106-RAID-12G-SAS/
    $66.398.99 (remember to add the sale tax). Yeah, just pocket change.
    And that's just the 106X 18TB array for a 1.9PB JOBD. Not likely any
    company will buy this that doesn't also buy support, so add that cost.

    Backblaze builds their own 60 drive pods and stocks them with 4 TB to 22
    TB drives right now.


    https://www.backblaze.com/blog/the-storage-pod-story-innovation-to-commodity/

    https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-drive-stats-for-q3-2023/

    Lynn


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  • From Char Jackson@none@none.invalid to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage on Wed Nov 29 21:58:10 2023
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage

    On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 15:49:18 -0600, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 11/28/2023 11:01 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Nov 2023 21:28:13 -0600, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    Seagate CORVAULT 4U106 Updated with 2.5PB Capacity
    https://www.storagereview.com/news/seagate-corvault-4u106-updated-with-2-5pb-capacity

    https://www.insight.com/en_US/shop/product/R4106I190800002/SEAGATE/R4106I190800002/CORVAULT-4U106-WITH-106X-18TB-STRAYCORVAULT-4U106-RAID-12G-SAS/
    $66.398.99 (remember to add the sale tax). Yeah, just pocket change.
    And that's just the 106X 18TB array for a 1.9PB JOBD. Not likely any
    company will buy this that doesn't also buy support, so add that cost.

    I don't know how many organizations actually need this kind of storage, and most
    who do are probably getting it from one of the major cloud storage providers,
    especially AWS. Having said that, the best customer for a 2.5PB vault might be
    the cloud storage providers themselves. As for the cost, it really is just >> pocket change.

    The NSA. The CIA. The FBI. The DOJ. Several other three and four
    letter agencies.

    Vanguard mentioned companies, so I was responding to that. If you're going to bring in government, especially that part of government, then I'll grant you that. They'll want local control of their data. I've consulted at a lot of state
    and local governments, though, and they mostly don't seem interested in hosting their own data. I see a lot of references to AWS.

    Any and all of the Fortune 5,000 companies, especially the engineering >companies.

    Since 2013 I've consulted at a few hundred companies that mostly call themselves
    Fortune 500 or even Fortune 100, and like above, I've seen precious few data farms and a whole lot of references to offsite cloud storage, especially AWS but
    also some Azure. My impression is that local data storage is in steep decline, in favor of cloud storage. The big guys are very good at what they do.

    When I worked for TXU back in the 1980s, we had a GIS system built on a
    IBM 3090 with 300 freestanding disk drives occupying a basement the size
    of a football field. It looked like that movie Alien in the scene with
    all of the pods with baby aliens ready for transplantation in them.

    Times have changed. :-) When I worked for Sprint, I spec'd and built a whopping 4TB drive array somewhere around 2003, using nothing but 9GB SCSI drives. The idea was to improve I/O performance by increasing the number of spindles. What a
    time to be alive.

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