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    From Lynn McGuire@lynnmcguire5@gmail.com to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage on Tue Nov 11 21:51:57 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage

    “Backblaze Drive Stats for Q3 2025”
    https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-drive-stats-for-q3-2025/

    “As of June 30, 2025, we had 332,915 drives under management. Of that
    total, there were 3,970 boot drives and 328,348 data drives. Let’s dig
    into our stats, then talk about the meaning of failure.”

    “The failure rate has increased: The failure rate has changed, and by
    quite a bit. As a reminder, last quarter’s AFR was 1.36% compared with
    this quarter’s 1.55%. (Interestingly, the 2024 yearly AFR was 1.57%.)”

    “That new drive energy: Say hello to the 24TB Toshiba MG11ACA24TE,
    joining the drive pool with 2,400 drives and 24,148 drive days. That
    means that we’ve hit the thresholds for the quarterly stats, but not the lifetime.”

    “Toshiba MG08ACA16TEY (16TB) - Finally, our Toshiba model is the most interesting of all. It’s less than four years old (44.61 months), and
    has 5,145 drives in the pool. And, this quarter is clearly a change from
    its normal, decent, AFRs.”

    “What that means for this drive is that it’s actually not a bad drive model; and, given the ways we and Toshiba have worked together on a fix,
    we should see failure rates normalizing in the near future. And, this
    also goes back to our conversation of defining a failure—in this case,
    while the drives “failed,” the failure wasn’t mechanical and was based on something that we’ll be able to fix without replacing the drives. In short, don’t sweat the spike and pay attention to the long arc of performance on this population. We expect to see those drives happy and spinning for years to come (and with better performance, too). ”

    Wait, they had a software failure on some Toshiba hard drives that is
    being fixed by flashing the drive firmware ? Scary stuff that is.

    Lynn

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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage on Wed Nov 12 05:06:51 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage

    On Tue, 11/11/2025 10:51 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    “Backblaze Drive Stats for Q3 2025”
       https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-drive-stats-for-q3-2025/

    “As of June 30, 2025, we had 332,915 drives under management. Of that total, there were 3,970 boot drives and 328,348 data drives. Let’s dig into our stats, then talk about the meaning of failure.”

    “The failure rate has increased: The failure rate has changed, and by quite a bit. As a reminder, last quarter’s AFR was 1.36% compared with this quarter’s 1.55%. (Interestingly, the 2024 yearly AFR was 1.57%.)”

    “That new drive energy: Say hello to the 24TB Toshiba MG11ACA24TE, joining the drive pool with 2,400 drives and 24,148 drive days. That means that we’ve hit the thresholds for the quarterly stats, but not the lifetime.”

    “Toshiba MG08ACA16TEY (16TB) - Finally, our Toshiba model is the most interesting of all. It’s less than four years old (44.61 months), and has 5,145 drives in the pool. And, this quarter is clearly a change from its normal, decent, AFRs.”

    “What that means for this drive is that it’s actually not a bad drive model; and, given the ways we and Toshiba have worked together on a fix, we should see failure rates normalizing in the near future. And, this also goes back to our conversation of defining a failure—in this case, while the drives “failed,” the failure wasn’t mechanical and was based on something that we’ll be able to fix without replacing the drives. In short, don’t sweat the spike and pay attention to the long arc of performance on this population. We expect to see those drives happy and spinning for years to come (and with better performance, too). ”
    *******
    Wait, they had a software failure on some Toshiba hard drives that is being fixed by flashing the drive firmware ?  Scary stuff that is.

    Lynn


    That's normal.

    Not every drive gets new firmware, but some of them do.

    Paul
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  • From Lynn McGuire@lynnmcguire5@gmail.com to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage on Wed Nov 12 16:08:24 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage

    On 11/12/2025 4:06 AM, Paul wrote:
    On Tue, 11/11/2025 10:51 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    “Backblaze Drive Stats for Q3 2025”
       https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-drive-stats-for-q3-2025/

    “As of June 30, 2025, we had 332,915 drives under management. Of that total, there were 3,970 boot drives and 328,348 data drives. Let’s dig into our stats, then talk about the meaning of failure.”

    “The failure rate has increased: The failure rate has changed, and by quite a bit. As a reminder, last quarter’s AFR was 1.36% compared with this quarter’s 1.55%. (Interestingly, the 2024 yearly AFR was 1.57%.)”

    “That new drive energy: Say hello to the 24TB Toshiba MG11ACA24TE, joining the drive pool with 2,400 drives and 24,148 drive days. That means that we’ve hit the thresholds for the quarterly stats, but not the lifetime.”

    “Toshiba MG08ACA16TEY (16TB) - Finally, our Toshiba model is the most interesting of all. It’s less than four years old (44.61 months), and has 5,145 drives in the pool. And, this quarter is clearly a change from its normal, decent, AFRs.”

    “What that means for this drive is that it’s actually not a bad drive model; and, given the ways we and Toshiba have worked together on a fix, we should see failure rates normalizing in the near future. And, this also goes back to our conversation of defining a failure—in this case, while the drives “failed,” the failure wasn’t mechanical and was based on something that we’ll be able to fix without replacing the drives. In short, don’t sweat the spike and pay attention to the long arc of performance on this population. We expect to see those drives happy and spinning for years to come (and with better performance, too). ”
    *******
    Wait, they had a software failure on some Toshiba hard drives that is being fixed by flashing the drive firmware ?  Scary stuff that is.

    Lynn


    That's normal.

    Not every drive gets new firmware, but some of them do.

    Paul

    Flashing any firmware in the field is dangerous and non-trivial to find
    the correct patch.

    Lynn

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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage on Wed Nov 12 19:40:02 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage

    On Wed, 11/12/2025 5:08 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 11/12/2025 4:06 AM, Paul wrote:
    On Tue, 11/11/2025 10:51 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    “Backblaze Drive Stats for Q3 2025”
        https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-drive-stats-for-q3-2025/ >>>
    “As of June 30, 2025, we had 332,915 drives under management. Of that total, there were 3,970 boot drives and 328,348 data drives. Let’s dig into our stats, then talk about the meaning of failure.”

    “The failure rate has increased: The failure rate has changed, and by quite a bit. As a reminder, last quarter’s AFR was 1.36% compared with this quarter’s 1.55%. (Interestingly, the 2024 yearly AFR was 1.57%.)”

    “That new drive energy: Say hello to the 24TB Toshiba MG11ACA24TE, joining the drive pool with 2,400 drives and 24,148 drive days. That means that we’ve hit the thresholds for the quarterly stats, but not the lifetime.”

    “Toshiba MG08ACA16TEY (16TB) - Finally, our Toshiba model is the most interesting of all. It’s less than four years old (44.61 months), and has 5,145 drives in the pool. And, this quarter is clearly a change from its normal, decent, AFRs.”

    “What that means for this drive is that it’s actually not a bad drive model; and, given the ways we and Toshiba have worked together on a fix, we should see failure rates normalizing in the near future. And, this also goes back to our conversation of defining a failure—in this case, while the drives “failed,” the failure wasn’t mechanical and was based on something that we’ll be able to fix without replacing the drives. In short, don’t sweat the spike and pay attention to the long arc of performance on this population. We expect to see those drives happy and spinning for years to come (and with better performance, too). ”
    *******
    Wait, they had a software failure on some Toshiba hard drives that is being fixed by flashing the drive firmware ?  Scary stuff that is.

    Lynn


    That's normal.

    Not every drive gets new firmware, but some of them do.

         Paul

    Flashing any firmware in the field is dangerous and non-trivial to find the correct patch.

    Lynn

    Most flashers check the ID in the existing image
    before they flash, so it's pretty safe.

    I'm a hardware guy, and fear of flashing has been
    trained out of me :-)

    The reason we can be fearless, is most of the time,
    there is no special requirement on the drive. It's
    a relatively benign operation.

    *******

    Now, this procedure, you "have a right to be scared shitless".

    https://www.overclock.net/threads/seagate-bricked-firmware-drive-fix-with-pics.457286/

    my77stang
    Discussion starter
    400 posts - Joined 2008
    #1 - Feb 7, 2009

    ST3500320AS with firmware SD15

    This is the procedure, where the controller board must be electrically
    isolated from the HDA, at power up, a TTL level serial adapter connected
    to the drive terminal interface, and you type commands into the thing.
    Once the command set is entered, you ease the paper insulation from
    between the controller board and the HDA and the compression fit
    connector between controller board and HDA is secured by inserting
    the screws again (with the power on).

    Um, bring a change of underwear :-)

    I particularly enjoyed the description of that one, because
    Data Recovery Experts were not doing that one, people were
    doing that at home!

    I have a TTL level serial adapter here, about six feet from
    me, so I am ready for my "next adventure". Who knows, it's quite
    possible I have one of those drives here. And, I even own
    the change of underwear for it.

    Paul

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