• How to stop cloudinit confusing me in rpi-imager?

    From Chris Green@cl@isbd.net to comp.sys.raspberry-pi on Wed Jul 16 10:30:26 2025
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    I just created a new USB image for a 'clean' Pi 4B. What I got was a
    repeat of the last one I created several months ago with the previous
    hostname, username, password and so on.

    I'm beginning to think that rpi-imager is too clever for its own good.

    I also find that the way it asks about customisation is totally
    misleading. If you answer 'Yes' to "Would you like to apply OS
    cusotmisation settings" then you'd expect it to then ask what you want
    to do. What it **actually** means is do you want to apply the settings
    it has remembered that you did several months ago! Not to mention
    that 'No, clear settings' and 'No' are rather confusing.

    There should be some sort of help to clarify all this.


    Maybe I'll just go back to using 'dd', much more straightforward! :-)
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  • From Joerg Walther@joerg.walther@magenta.de to comp.sys.raspberry-pi on Thu Jul 17 11:26:13 2025
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    Chris Green wrote:

    I also find that the way it asks about customisation is totally
    misleading. If you answer 'Yes' to "Would you like to apply OS
    cusotmisation settings" then you'd expect it to then ask what you want
    to do. What it **actually** means is do you want to apply the settings
    it has remembered that you did several months ago! Not to mention
    that 'No, clear settings' and 'No' are rather confusing.

    You must be talking about the latest version (1.9.*). I have also used
    this a couple of times in the last weeks and on the one hand found it as irritating as you did, otoh it was ideal for testing a couple of images
    of the same OS under various conditions.

    There should be some sort of help to clarify all this.

    I think the imager is a bit more comfortable and saves you a bit of time
    (touch ssh and all that), but of course this is up to you. :)

    -jw-
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.sys.raspberry-pi on Thu Jul 17 10:30:41 2025
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    On 17/07/2025 10:26, Joerg Walther wrote:
    Chris Green wrote:

    I also find that the way it asks about customisation is totally
    misleading. If you answer 'Yes' to "Would you like to apply OS
    cusotmisation settings" then you'd expect it to then ask what you want
    to do. What it **actually** means is do you want to apply the settings
    it has remembered that you did several months ago! Not to mention
    that 'No, clear settings' and 'No' are rather confusing.

    You must be talking about the latest version (1.9.*). I have also used
    this a couple of times in the last weeks and on the one hand found it as irritating as you did, otoh it was ideal for testing a couple of images
    of the same OS under various conditions.

    There should be some sort of help to clarify all this.

    I think the imager is a bit more comfortable and saves you a bit of time (touch ssh and all that), but of course this is up to you. :)

    -jw-
    I agree with that. I don't habitually use the imager, because now I
    have a screen and keyboard ready to set everything up using raspi-config

    But I tried it once and its 'ok' .

    The real easy street is to buy an SD card with the OS preinstalled.

    https://thepihut.com/products/noobs-preinstalled-sd-card

    Just like Winders, it's there already!
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