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For the first time in recent memory I'd like to do some scanning
with my Brother MFC8480DN all-in-one printer/scanner/copier/fax
machine, and I'd like to use my Pi5 for the job since it's the
only up-to-date computer I have.

I've used Brother Control Center software on a (very old) Mac
and it worked, but a more modern system is long overdue.

At https://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadlist.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=mfc4800_us&os=128
it appears that Debian Linux scanning software is offered, but it
looks quite old; 2007. Further it's unclear whether ARM is supported
at all. Given the age it seems unlikely.

Does anybody have an idea whether Brother's software for scanning
will work on a Pi5, or perhaps there's something better? I don't
need anything fancy like OCR (though it might come in handy someday),
just a way to prepare attachments that can be submitted for a
driver's license renewal. I'm inclined to proceed cautiously,
since printing works well and I don't want to mess that up.

Any suggestions or links to references would help greatly.

Thanks for reading,

bob prohaska



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bp@www.zefox.net wrote:

Brother MFC8480DN all-in-one printer/scanner/copier/fax

This says MFC8480DN

https://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadlist.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=mfc4800_us&os=128

This/that/your link says MFC4800; not the same thing at all.

I see: https://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadlist.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=mfc8480dn_us&os=128

... which says MFC-8480DN

This is what open-printing/cups says about that printer (supported): https://www.openprinting.org/printer/Brother/Brother-MFC-8480DN

The brother page cited earlier says the scanner driver .deb is dated '15
which isn't so bad, considering the printer is discontinued at brother.

I don't exactly know what it means that brother's site has a '24 dated
.deb installer for the printer & scanner & another '25 dated 'scan key' enabling scanning from the machine's input.
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Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote:

bp@www.zefox.net wrote:

Brother MFC8480DN all-in-one printer/scanner/copier/fax

This says MFC8480DN

https://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadlist.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=mfc4800_us&os=128

This/that/your link says MFC4800; not the same thing at all.

Thanks for catching my error, I must have backed up to the wrong page.

I see: https://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadlist.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=mfc8480dn_us&os=128

... which says MFC-8480DN

This is what open-printing/cups says about that printer (supported): https://www.openprinting.org/printer/Brother/Brother-MFC-8480DN

But it doesn't say anything about scanning.

The brother page cited earlier says the scanner driver .deb is dated '15 which isn't so bad, considering the printer is discontinued at brother.

I don't exactly know what it means that brother's site has a '24 dated
.deb installer for the printer & scanner & another '25 dated 'scan key' enabling scanning from the machine's input.

I'm still a bit hazy on what a "scanner driver" does. Seems to me
it'd still require a user interface system of some sort to manage
the files generated by scanning. The term "twain" keeps cropping
up, is it something like PostScript or PCL, but for scanning?
Presumably the UI needs to run on the native hardware, unless
it's in something like Java.

Thanks for writing,

bob prohaska

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bp@www.zefox.net wrote:

Mike Easter wrote:

bp@www.zefox.net wrote:

Brother MFC8480DN all-in-one printer/scanner/copier/fax

This says MFC8480DN

My Canon Pixma is hooked up USB to this LM system I'm posting here based
on Ub.

My default scanner is called document scanner which is in my repo/s just
like xsane and I believe it is called simple scan in the package
manager. It recognized the Pixma and was ready to scan.

I did some looking for your Brother, it is is covered by simple scan;
all of those are just front ends for sane.

https://help.brother-usa.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/165346/~/how-to-scan-using-simplescan---linux

How to scan using SimpleScan - Linux

Click here to display all models covered by this answer.

MFC8480DN

Altho' my RPi isn't up right now, I assume that simple scan is in its
software manager and should be able to deal w/ your Brother.

Also, while looking at the brother docs, you have a control panel which
has a scan function.
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Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote:

bp@www.zefox.net wrote:

Mike Easter wrote:

bp@www.zefox.net wrote:

Brother MFC8480DN all-in-one printer/scanner/copier/fax

This says MFC8480DN

My Canon Pixma is hooked up USB to this LM system I'm posting here based
on Ub.

My default scanner is called document scanner which is in my repo/s just like xsane and I believe it is called simple scan in the package
manager. It recognized the Pixma and was ready to scan.

I did some looking for your Brother, it is is covered by simple scan;
all of those are just front ends for sane.

https://help.brother-usa.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/165346/~/how-to-scan-using-simplescan---linux

How to scan using SimpleScan - Linux

Click here to display all models covered by this answer.

MFC8480DN

Altho' my RPi isn't up right now, I assume that simple scan is in its software manager and should be able to deal w/ your Brother.

$ apt search simplescan
Sorting... Done
Full Text Search... Done
bob@raspberrypi:~/Documents/driver_license$
Looks like nothing found.

Also, while looking at the brother docs, you have a control panel which
has a scan function.

Not sure what that refers to. The original printer control software for
Mac OS was called "Control Panel", and the printer has a physical control
panel with the ability to export scanned files to a USB device. I am
hoping to run the whole show from the Pi5.

Another correspondent sent this link: https://www.androidauthority.com/raspberry-pi-scanner-docker-3572222/
It looks closer to what I want, but I've not explored it in detail yet.
I'm not familiar with Docker, that might be a steep learning curve.

Thanks very much for writing!

bob prohaska

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bp@www.zefox.net wrote:

$ apt search simplescan
Sorting... Done
Full Text Search... Done
bob@raspberrypi:~/Documents/driver_license$
Looks like nothing found.

Its package is simple-scan

$ apt search simple-scan
Sorting... Done
Full Text Search... Done
simple-scan/oldstable 42.5-2 arm64
Simple Scanning Utility

If you are bookworm:

https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/arm64/simple-scan/download

The cp control panel I was referring is the physical one on the printer/scanner; but I don't know about interfacing what you do w/ that
to your device.

Apparently since trixie, Deb is supporting riscv much more strongly.
They are amazing in terms of packages and architectures.
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Mike Easter wrote:

My Canon Pixma is hooked up USB to this LM system I'm posting here based
on Ub.

My default scanner is called document scanner which is in my repo/s just like xsane and I believe it is called simple scan in the package
manager. It recognized the Pixma and was ready to scan.

This isn't about Brother or RPi, but my Canon & LM w/ simple-scan which
LM calls Document scanner.

I scanned a color graphical document w/ Ds ie simple-scan; I was able to
crop the scan field prior to scanning and choose gray scale or color (I typically use grayscale because my printer is only black ink) and save
the scan as a .pdf.

If I were going to scan my driver license to send it, I would scan in
color.

Personally, I'm in a linux 99% of the time, I don't do very much
printing or scanning; but when I do, I do it in Win7 because I prefer
the Win tools and results, IrfanView for graphical handling and superior printer management for my limited purposes.

My point is that if I were trying to do it w/ RPi & Brother, I would be
using a combination of Brother tools and simple-scan.
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On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 21:59:26 -0000 (UTC), bp wrote:

For the first time in recent memory I'd like to do some scanning
with my Brother MFC8480DN all-in-one printer/scanner/copier/fax
machine, and I'd like to use my Pi5 for the job since it's the
only up-to-date computer I have.

Does it have the ability to scan to a USB stick? That might be the least painful way to do it -- then move the stick to your Pi and get the scans
off there that way.
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Mike Easter wrote:

Personally, I'm in a linux 99% of the time, I don't do very much
printing or scanning; but when I do, I do it in Win7 because I prefer
the Win tools and results, IrfanView for graphical handling and superior >printer management for my limited purposes.

When it comes to scanning I think gscan2pdf is much better than the Win
tool that comes with Canon scanners. IrfanView sure is hard to beat
because it has been in active development for so long, but I find that
nomacs comes quite close.

-jw-
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Joerg Walther wrote:

When it comes to scanning I think gscan2pdf is much better than the Win
tool that comes with Canon scanners. IrfanView sure is hard to beat
because it has been in active development for so long, but I find that
nomacs comes quite close.

IV FAQ has for years had instructions for using IV in linux; WINE + a
Win .dll. Since I've had multiple machines around me for so long, and
since there has always been a Win 'accessible', I've never really
bothered much w/ WINE.

I usually scan w/ IV, not a 'Canon' scanner.
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On 2025-08-20, Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 21:59:26 -0000 (UTC), bp wrote:

For the first time in recent memory I'd like to do some scanning
with my Brother MFC8480DN all-in-one printer/scanner/copier/fax
machine, and I'd like to use my Pi5 for the job since it's the
only up-to-date computer I have.

Does it have the ability to scan to a USB stick? That might be the least painful way to do it -- then move the stick to your Pi and get the scans
off there that way.

That's exactly the solution I adopted for my Brother ADS-2700W
sheet-fed scanner. I can point a web browser at it and play with
its setup screens all I want, but I've never been able to scan
via a network connection. Oh well, it's a nice little unit
otherwise, and plugging in a thumb drive is no great hardship.

On the other hand, I have no trouble scanning with my Epson
WF-2760 all-in-one from my Linux box; I use simple-scan or
naps2 depending on my needs. But they can't find the Brother.
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Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 21:59:26 -0000 (UTC), bp wrote:

For the first time in recent memory I'd like to do some scanning
with my Brother MFC8480DN all-in-one printer/scanner/copier/fax
machine, and I'd like to use my Pi5 for the job since it's the
only up-to-date computer I have.

Does it have the ability to scan to a USB stick? That might be the least painful way to do it -- then move the stick to your Pi and get the scans
off there that way.

Yes, it will scan to USB. That may be my best option.

It turns out that quite a bit of SANE software is already
installed on the Pi, perhaps in an earlier iteration of this
same goose-chase.

Near as I can tell both simple-scan and xsane run fine but expect
a USB scanner. The mfc8480dn is connected via wired Ethernet on
my LAN and printing works fine, so it's best not to rock that boat.

There's something called sane-net. It looks like that might be
a bridge of sorts between USB-seeking scanner software and an Ethernet-connected scanner. It's present, including the man page.
If I'm mistaken, please let me know.

I know the machine can scan over Ethernet using the old Brother
Control Center software on the Mac, but that's really clumsy.

An attempt to find the Brotherfirmware version number using the
front panel fails, but the web interface reports S, while the Brother
support page at https://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadend.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=mfc8480dn_us&os=10013&dlid=dlf004715_000&flang=8&type3=375
reports a version T. However, the update history skips letter S
and none of the entries mention SANE, or TWAIN. USB is mentioned
only at version Q, which appears to predate S.
I've downloaded the update but will tread lightly with it.

It looks like a Web search for "Brother Control Center Linux" turns up
a few hits, I'll explore those before doing anything else.

Thanks for writing.

bob prohaska

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On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 17:21:39 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

On the other hand, I have no trouble scanning with my Epson WF-2760 all-in-one from my Linux box; I use simple-scan or naps2 depending on my needs. But they can't find the Brother.

Interesting, I have an Epson WF model too (WF-3725). So I could probably figure out a way to scan from that directly to my main Linux machine ...
if I could be bothered ... ;)
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It's starting to look like at least some setup is needed on the Pi.
Sane-net is present (there's a man page for it) but I don't think
anything is running. Saned likewise has a man page but does not
seem to be running. I'm starting to think they're needed, but
haven't seen much in the way of "howto" guidance to get them
running.

Neither comes up in the Add/Remove Programs dialog.

With very low expectations I emailed Brother support and got a
prompt reply. The respondent is asking reasonable questions and
so far replied with intelligent followup questions. The MFC8480
has a telnet interface along with the web interface. Neither
seems to have any scanning-related commands, but being telnet
there's likely more than meets the eye under the hood.

Thanks for reading, and any ideas

bob prohaska

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On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 03:48:25 -0000 (UTC), bp wrote:

The MFC8480 has a telnet interface along with the web interface.
Neither seems to have any scanning-related commands, but being
telnet there's likely more than meets the eye under the hood.

Interesting ...

One obvious thing to try is to connect via Telnet and type “help␤”, and see what, if anything, it responds with.

Kind of a shot in the dark, but ... can’t hurt ...
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bp@www.zefox.net wrote:

It's starting to look like at least some setup is needed on the Pi.
Sane-net is present (there's a man page for it) but I don't think
anything is running. Saned likewise has a man page but does not
seem to be running. I'm starting to think they're needed, but
haven't seen much in the way of "howto" guidance to get them
running.

You're likely going to want some config to tell Sane about what kind of
scanner you have, how to find it and what kind of driver to use. This is
for Arch where they have a variety of scanner packages:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/SANE/Scanner-specific_problems#Brother

However it looks like they are packaging Brother's i386/amd64 drivers so
even if you were running Arch they wouldn't help on a Pi.

but it's also worth doing the general SANE config they describe: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/SANE

If the printer can have a USB connection to the computer you could also try that - maybe it behaves differently as a USB scanner, and maybe you can get that working before moving on to making it work over the network.

Theo
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In article <10850u2$f6vk$1@dont-email.me>, <bp@www.zefox.net> wrote:

Near as I can tell both simple-scan and xsane run fine but expect
a USB scanner. The mfc8480dn is connected via wired Ethernet on
my LAN and printing works fine, so it's best not to rock that boat.

There's something called sane-net. It looks like that might be
a bridge of sorts between USB-seeking scanner software and an >Ethernet-connected scanner. It's present, including the man page.
If I'm mistaken, please let me know.

I have an Epson ET-3760 that's only connected over Ethernet. Looking at the Arch install on one of my boxes indicates that sane-airscan is installed in addition to sane and xsane. The scanner is discoverable over the network
and both xsane and gscan2pdf can use it. If your device isn't too old, you might want to give it a shot. It should be available on the Raspberry Pi:

https://wiki.debian.org/SaneOverNetwork
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On 2025-08-20, Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 17:21:39 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

On the other hand, I have no trouble scanning with my Epson WF-2760
all-in-one from my Linux box; I use simple-scan or naps2 depending on my
needs. But they can't find the Brother.

Interesting, I have an Epson WF model too (WF-3725). So I could probably figure out a way to scan from that directly to my main Linux machine ...
if I could be bothered ... ;)

Make sure you have a good TCP/IP connection, then fire up xsane.
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On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 18:15:36 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

On 2025-08-20, Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 17:21:39 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

On the other hand, I have no trouble scanning with my Epson
WF-2760 all-in-one from my Linux box; I use simple-scan or naps2
depending on my needs. But they can't find the Brother.

Interesting, I have an Epson WF model too (WF-3725). So I could
probably figure out a way to scan from that directly to my main
Linux machine ... if I could be bothered ... ;)

Make sure you have a good TCP/IP connection, then fire up xsane.

Put my printer on the network?? Never.
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bp@www.zefox.net wrote:

Near as I can tell both simple-scan and xsane run fine but expect
a USB scanner. The mfc8480dn is connected via wired Ethernet on
my LAN and printing works fine, so it's best not to rock that boat.

When simple-scan is open, it has info:

If you connect a network scanner you will need to restart Document Scanner for the scanner to be detected.

I'm not sure exactly how to interpret that info, but it DOES sound like
it should be able to detect a network scanner.
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Mike Easter wrote:

I don't exactly know what it means that brother's site has a '24
dated .deb installer for the printer & scanner

I'm not smart enough to be able to interpret that alleged 'installer'
which is just a gz/d bash script. I'm not able to interpret it well
enough to understand where these drivers are supposed to come from.

The brother how-to just says to run the script:

The driver installation will start. Follow the installation screen directions.

When you see the message "Will you specify the DeviceURI ?",

For USB Users: Choose N(No) For Network Users: Choose Y(Yes) and
DeviceURI number.

The install process may take some time. Please wait until it is
complete.

https://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadhowto.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=mfc8480dn_us&os=128&dlid=dlf006893_000&flang=4&type3=625

If anyone wants to read the script, it is here: https://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadlist.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=mfc8480dn_us&os=128


Driver Install Tool
The tool will install LPR, CUPSwrapper driver and scanner driver (for
scanner models).
05/20/2024 (2.2.4-1) 0.02 MB

There is some wget in there.
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Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote:

bp@www.zefox.net wrote:

Near as I can tell both simple-scan and xsane run fine but expect
a USB scanner. The mfc8480dn is connected via wired Ethernet on
my LAN and printing works fine, so it's best not to rock that boat.

When simple-scan is open, it has info:

If you connect a network scanner you will need to restart Document Scanner for the scanner to be detected.

I'm not sure exactly how to interpret that info, but it DOES sound like
it should be able to detect a network scanner.

I agree with your assesment, but the software seems not to....
Near as I can tell simple-scan brings up a window titled Document Scanner.
It reports looking for a scanner but finds nothing, even while I'm
logged into the printer via telnet at the same time. If it's supposed
to auto-detect, it doesn't. There's a preferences dialog, but nothing
related to finding the scanner.

I really wonder if sane-net and/or saned is a required intermediary.
Both are installed, neither is running AFAIK. Saned might be for
incoming connections to a local scanner, I need an outgoing connection
to the mfc8480
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Scott Alfter <scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us> wrote:

In article <10850u2$f6vk$1@dont-email.me>, <bp@www.zefox.net> wrote:

Near as I can tell both simple-scan and xsane run fine but expect
a USB scanner. The mfc8480dn is connected via wired Ethernet on
my LAN and printing works fine, so it's best not to rock that boat.

There's something called sane-net. It looks like that might be
a bridge of sorts between USB-seeking scanner software and an >>Ethernet-connected scanner. It's present, including the man page.
If I'm mistaken, please let me know.

I have an Epson ET-3760 that's only connected over Ethernet. Looking at the Arch install on one of my boxes indicates that sane-airscan is installed in addition to sane and xsane. The scanner is discoverable over the network
and both xsane and gscan2pdf can use it. If your device isn't too old, you might want to give it a shot. It should be available on the Raspberry Pi:

https://wiki.debian.org/SaneOverNetwork

Xsane is installed and can't find the mfc. I just discovered libsane
isn't installed, but adding it made no difference. Later on I'll
reboot the Pi5 to see if that helps.

It really feels like something(s) missing on the Pi side.

Thanks for writing,

bob prohaska

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Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

bp@www.zefox.net wrote:

It's starting to look like at least some setup is needed on the Pi.
Sane-net is present (there's a man page for it) but I don't think
anything is running. Saned likewise has a man page but does not
seem to be running. I'm starting to think they're needed, but
haven't seen much in the way of "howto" guidance to get them
running.

You're likely going to want some config to tell Sane about what kind of scanner you have, how to find it and what kind of driver to use. This is
for Arch where they have a variety of scanner packages:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/SANE/Scanner-specific_problems#Brother

However it looks like they are packaging Brother's i386/amd64 drivers so
even if you were running Arch they wouldn't help on a Pi.

but it's also worth doing the general SANE config they describe: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/SANE

Those instructions include a link to sane-supported devices. It looks
as if mfc8480dn isn't on the list. That's bad 8-(

If the printer can have a USB connection to the computer you could also try that - maybe it behaves differently as a USB scanner, and maybe you can get that working before moving on to making it work over the network.

If I had a long enough cable I'd try. That's looking like my last hope.

Thanks for writing!

bob prohaska

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Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 03:48:25 -0000 (UTC), bp wrote:

The MFC8480 has a telnet interface along with the web interface.
Neither seems to have any scanning-related commands, but being
telnet there's likely more than meets the eye under the hood.

Interesting ...

One obvious thing to try is to connect via Telnet and type “help␤”, and
see what, if anything, it responds with.

Here's a snippet of what I get:

Trying 192.168.1.250...
Connected to 192.168.1.250.
Escape character is '^]'.

Welcome. Type <return>, enter password at # prompt

#
Brother NC-6800h Command Console
Copyright(C) 2000-2009 Brother Industries, Ltd.
KASAGO TCP/IP Copyright (c) 1997 Elmic WESCOM, Inc.
Copyright(C) 1983-1998 PACIFIC SOFTWORKS INC.

Type HELP for command list



Enter username> admin
Local> ls

EXIT/^D Exit program
HElp Information on available commands
INitialize Reset unit
CLear Remove configuration item
SET Modify unit parameters
SHow Display unit parameters
ZEro Zero statistical counts

Type 'HElp <cmd>' for more information

Local> ?

EXIT/^D Exit program
HElp Information on available commands
INitialize Reset unit
CLear Remove configuration item
SET Modify unit parameters
SHow Display unit parameters
ZEro Zero statistical counts

Type 'HElp <cmd>' for more information

Local> show

CIFS CIFS Parameters
EMAIL E-mail Parameters
ENET Ethernet Parameters
FRee Memory Available
FTP FTP Parameters
IP LPD/TCP/Telnet Parameters
IPP IPP Parameters
JOB Print Job Parameters
LLMNR Linklocal Multicast Name Resolution Parameters
LLTD Link Layer Topology Discovery Parameters
LOAd Firmware update Parameters
LPD LPD Protocol Parameters
MDNS mDNS Parameters
NETBIos NetBIOS Parameters
NETSCan Network scan Parameters
PCFAX PC fax receive Parameters
POP3 POP3 Parameters
PORT Port Parameters
RAWPort RAWPort Parameters
REMOTESEtup Remote Setup Parameters
SERVEr Server Parameters
SERVIce Service Parameters
SMTP SMTP Parameters
SNMP SNMP Parameters
SNTP SNTP Parameters
TELnet Telnet Parameters
TEStpage Print test Page
TFtp TFTP Parameters
VErsion Server Version
WEBBasedmanagement Web Based Management(Web Server) Parameters
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Local> show netscan

Network scan is Enabled

It appears to be a sandboxed shell; normal unix commands like ls and
cd just repeat the help output. There might be a magic word to dig
out of the sandbox, but I've no clue how to find it.

The "productive conversation" with Brother tech support concluded
with me showing a successful telnet connection to the printer. So
far, there's been no reply regarding what to try next.

It would make a great deal of sense if I'm just missing a bit of
intermediat software to bridge from the USB connection the
scanner applications expect to the network connection the mfc
presents to the LAN.

Thanks for writing,

bob prohaska

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bp wrote:

I really wonder if sane-net and/or saned is a required intermediary.
Both are installed, neither is running AFAIK.

Saned is often configured to run from inetd, in which case it won't be
started until something connects.

$ grep sane /etc/inetd.conf
sane-port stream tcp nowait saned:saned /usr/sbin/saned sane

Saned might be for
incoming connections to a local scanner, I need an outgoing connection
to the mfc8480

Front-end software such as xsane connects to saned, then saned finds
available scanners and tells the front-end, which presents the choice
to the user.

Supported scanners have config files in /etc/sane.d or are found by a dynamically loaded library listed in /etc/sane.d/dll.conf or in files
under /etc/sane.d/dll.d (for me, the latter: the package libsane-hpaio
provides /etc/sane.d/dll.d/hplip).
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bp@www.zefox.net wrote:

Mike Easter wrote:

bp@www.zefox.net wrote:

I'm not sure exactly how to interpret that info, but it DOES sound
like it should be able to detect a network scanner.

I agree with your assesment, but the software seems not to.... Near
as I can tell simple-scan brings up a window titled Document
Scanner. It reports looking for a scanner but finds nothing, even
while I'm logged into the printer via telnet at the same time. If
it's supposed to auto-detect, it doesn't. There's a preferences
dialog, but nothing related to finding the scanner.

Surely the scanner driver must be some kind of binary blob more than a
script full of text.

I dl'd the Brother .deb for the scanner driver to look inside it and Bro
gives linux instructions for installing it for both USB & network devices.

https://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadend.aspx? c=us&lang=en&prod=mfc8480dn_us&os=128&dlid=dlf006642_000&flang=4&type3=566

Of course, Brother's idea of a .deb is for Debian/Ubuntu, but this page
goes into some details for howto:

How to Install

For Network Users:

***Use brsaneconfig (for brscan models), brsaneconfig2 (for brscan2
models), brsaneconfig3 (for brscan3 models), brsaneconfig4 (for
brscan4 models) or brsaneconfig5 (for brscan5 models) accordingly.
Add network scanner entry Command : brsaneconfig4 -a name=(name your
device) model=(model name) ip=xx.xx.xx.xx

Confirm network scanner entry Command : brsaneconfig4 -q | grep
(name of your device)

Open a scanner application and try a test scan.

Please refer the FAQ pages also for other information.

Brother also has a faq/s page for troubleshooting such as linux
installation where it talks about the limitations of its packages:

https://support.brother.com/g/b/faqend.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=mfc8480dn_us&ftype3=2033&faqid=faq00100713_000

Its table has the distro/s for the rpm and those for the deb and
specifically lists such as Puppy and 'other' saying 'none'.

Of course, that sort of info isn't necessarily accurate, as I regularly
use .deb/s for installing stuff for both Puppy and EasyOS which are
based on Deb.
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bp@www.zefox.net wrote:

For the first time in recent memory I'd like to do some scanning
with my Brother MFC8480DN all-in-one printer/scanner/copier/fax
machine, and I'd like to use my Pi5 for the job since it's the
only up-to-date computer I have.

Here's a different direction; I'm a big fan of booting live linux
distro/s w/ 'persistence'. One problem w/ persistence is that there is
more than one 'kind'. The most popular kind which is employed by the
most distro/s and also by the Ventoy scheme is for the device to have a separate place for 'storage', but the persistence isn't for the changes
to the system. That is no good for me.

The kind of persistence I like the best is often called a 'frugal
install'. I can get Mageia to provide that kind of persistence only off
a USB using their specific software to write the Mageia to the USB.

I can get MX persistence in my favorite way, booting from a Ventoy SSD
and using their 'elaborate' choices of a number of different kinds of persistence which includes 'frugal' which is the one I want.

I can also get the baked in kind of persistence that Puppy and EasyOS
provide and also on SSD.

Where I'm going w/ this elaborate discussion is that the problem w/ the
RPi is that it has a different kind of architecture that might be 'confounding' the problem that the Brother linux support isn't all that
great in the first place. I think I would rather setup my scanning on
such as a live MX using its frugal persistence.

My idea would be to first be booting up one of the distro/s which has a
good form of persistence and which is likely to be compatible w/ the
Brother linux ware, just to see if I could get it to scan live w/
additions. Then if that worked out, I would rig such as a USB so that I
could have live w/ persistence of the scanner (w/ or w/o printer) that I rigged. Then when I needed to do that, I would boot that USB.
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Mike Easter wrote:

bp@www.zefox.net wrote:

For the first time in recent memory I'd like to do some scanning
with my Brother MFC8480DN all-in-one printer/scanner/copier/fax
machine, and I'd like to use my Pi5 for the job since it's the
only up-to-date computer I have.

My idea would be to first be booting up one of the distro/s which
has a good form of persistence and which is likely to be compatible
w/ the Brother linux ware, just to see if I could get it to scan
live w/ additions. Then if that worked out, I would rig such as a
USB so that I could have live w/ persistence of the scanner (w/ or w/
o printer) that I rigged. Then when I needed to do that, I would
boot that USB.

Good things about the RPi5 is that it likely has plenty of ram for these purposes and it also has USB3 for better speed than my most frequent USB activity which is 2.

MX is based on Debian, which the Brother ware likes, and MX also has
some very smart MX tools for 'network things'.

That is, I'm sure the RPi5 will boot and run MX in ram from the USB just
fine, and be able to use all kinds of Brother and software for printing
and scanning and faxing for that matter because you have the 'wealth' of Debian.

There is a MX 'respin' specifically for the Pi:

https://mxlinux.org/blog/mx-23-1-raspberry-pi-os-respin/

MX-23.1_rpi_respin takes the MX Tools and access to our MX
repositories from our main line releases and adds them to a system
image suitable for running on recent Raspberry Pi devices. The image
is tested on Pi4, Pi400, and Pi5 systems.

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Mike Easter wrote:

My Canon Pixma is hooked up USB to this LM system I'm posting here based
on Ub.

I'm trying to learn some stuff on my own system that I don't yet have
working in every way I'm trying.

Now I'm in a live MX on the LAN that the LM w/ the USB Pixma is. I tho't
I had the printer configured as shared, but when I use the web interface
for CUPS it does NOT say the printer is shared.

I realize this isn't the same as a 'network' printer and maybe it will
be harder than a network printer would be. But I'm going to try to scan
w/ it from the live MX on the network.
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Mike Easter wrote:

I'm going to try to scan w/ it from the live MX on the network.

Progress in the status of shared and the status of being able to print
from the Live MX; but not scan yet. The other day when I was focused on
the Brother situation, I found some commands to try to locate a scanner.
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