• Chromium & Firefox can't play videos again

    From bp@bp@www.zefox.net to comp.sys.raspberry-pi on Sun Dec 7 01:38:05 2025
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    Once again an upgrade to Bookworm on a Pi5 has killed video playback in
    both Firefox and Chromium browsers. The video starts to load, thumbnails
    keep coming but the playback doesn't start and there's no sound.

    I've tested it on the New York Times, YouTube, Netflix and some homemade
    videos that used to work. Now nothing plays, failing in the same way.

    If anybody's seen this or knows a fix, please post.

    Thanks for reading,

    bob prohaska

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  • From Daniel James@daniel@me.invalid to comp.sys.raspberry-pi on Sun Dec 7 12:08:46 2025
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    On 07/12/2025 01:38, bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
    Once again an upgrade to Bookworm on a Pi5 has killed video playback in
    both Firefox and Chromium browsers.

    What do you mean "once again"? Have you had this problem before? How did
    you solve it then?

    ... and why upgrade to Bookworm? Trixie (Debian 13) is the current version.
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    Cheers,
    Daniel.
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  • From bp@bp@www.zefox.net to comp.sys.raspberry-pi on Sun Dec 7 15:49:10 2025
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    Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> wrote:
    On 07/12/2025 01:38, bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
    Once again an upgrade to Bookworm on a Pi5 has killed video playback in
    both Firefox and Chromium browsers.

    What do you mean "once again"? Have you had this problem before?
    It's been cropping up routinely, a day or so after updating the system.

    How did you solve it then?
    Simply continuing to update as updates were offered. Last time this
    occurred the issue was resolved in a couple of weeks, IIRC.

    ... and why upgrade to Bookworm? Trixie (Debian 13) is the current version.
    Bookworm is the established install on the host in question.

    If there was reason to think upgrading to Trixie would help I'd try it,
    but so far nobody has suggested that's the case. Bullseye seemed to work
    pretty well, Bookworm somewhat less so. That trend isn't encouraging....

    Far as I've seen, the _only_ problem has been with watching videos.
    Otherwise the system is well-behaved.

    Thanks for writing,

    bob prohaska

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  • From Daniel James@daniel@me.invalid to comp.sys.raspberry-pi on Sun Dec 7 23:41:01 2025
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    On 07/12/2025 15:49, bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
    If there was reason to think upgrading to Trixie would help I'd try it,
    but so far nobody has suggested that's the case. Bullseye seemed to work pretty well, Bookworm somewhat less so. That trend isn't encouraging....

    No, I don't think there's any particular reason to prefer Trixie over
    Bookworm if Bookworm works for you. Support for Debian "oldstable" is
    usually pretty good from Debian (though I think the Raspberry Pi people
    tend to concentrate on "stable", which would be Trixie at present).

    Some third-party software works well with the RaspiOS that is current
    when it is released, and may only slowly (if ever) be updated for newer releases -- I'm thinking of support for some of Pimoroni's devices.

    OTOH things like the Pi camera software is intended for "stable", and
    newer features/cameras may not work at all with older distros.

    Far as I've seen, the _only_ problem has been with watching videos. Otherwise the system is well-behaved.

    I'm not aware of any major differences in video support between distros.
    There IS a difference in hardware video support between Pi4 and Pi5 (I
    forget the details ... Pi4 has support for H.264 (and H.265?) but Pi5 -
    being much faster - expects you to do it in software? Something like
    that.). Of course, with a Pi5 you need a release that supports the Pi5,
    and I think Bookworm is the minimum.
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    Cheers,
    Daniel.
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  • From Computer Nerd Kev@not@telling.you.invalid to comp.sys.raspberry-pi on Mon Dec 8 10:29:08 2025
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    bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
    Once again an upgrade to Bookworm on a Pi5 has killed video playback in
    both Firefox and Chromium browsers. The video starts to load, thumbnails
    keep coming but the playback doesn't start and there's no sound.

    I've tested it on the New York Times, YouTube, Netflix and some homemade videos that used to work. Now nothing plays, failing in the same way.

    When you start Firefox from a terminal does it complain about any
    missing libraries? Do video files play in other programs using
    libavcodec (mplayer, ffplay)?
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  • From bp@bp@www.zefox.net to comp.sys.raspberry-pi on Mon Dec 8 03:44:36 2025
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    Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
    bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
    Once again an upgrade to Bookworm on a Pi5 has killed video playback in
    both Firefox and Chromium browsers. The video starts to load, thumbnails
    keep coming but the playback doesn't start and there's no sound.

    I've tested it on the New York Times, YouTube, Netflix and some homemade
    videos that used to work. Now nothing plays, failing in the same way.

    When you start Firefox from a terminal does it complain about any
    missing libraries? Do video files play in other programs using
    libavcodec (mplayer, ffplay)?

    If I point firefox at www.youtube.com the controlling terminal reports a series of

    [GFX1-]: Couldn't sanitize GL_RENDERER "V3D 7.1.7.0"
    [GFX1-]: Couldn't sanitize GL_RENDERER "V3D 7.1.7.0"
    GetShaderInfoLog() ->
    0:2(12): error: extension `GL_EXT_shader_texture_lod' unsupported in fragment shader

    GetShaderSource() ->

    #extension GL_EXT_shader_texture_lod: require
    void main() {}

    [GFX1-]: Couldn't sanitize GL_RENDERER "V3D 7.1.7.0"
    [GFX1-]: Couldn't sanitize GL_RENDERER "V3D 7.1.7.0"
    GetShaderInfoLog() ->
    0:2(12): error: extension `GL_EXT_shader_texture_lod' unsupported in fragment shader

    GetShaderSource() ->

    #extension GL_EXT_shader_texture_lod: require
    void main() {}

    Starting chromium causes the controlling terminal to emit
    [I cancelled a request to set a keychain password right off the bat]

    bob@raspberrypi:~/Downloads$ chromium www.youtube.com [833661:833661:1207/193840.050998:ERROR:components/dbus/xdg/request.cc:164] Request ended (non-user cancelled).
    [833661:833703:1207/193854.893048:ERROR:google_apis/gcm/engine/registration_request.cc:292] Registration response error message: DEPRECATED_ENDPOINT
    [833661:833661:1207/193855.098334:ERROR:mojo/public/cpp/bindings/lib/interface_endpoint_client.cc:732] Message 0 rejected by interface blink.mojom.WidgetHost
    [833719:833719:1207/193902.233304:ERROR:gpu/command_buffer/service/shared_image/shared_image_factory.cc:928] Could not find SharedImageBackingFactory with params: usage: Gles2Read|RasterRead|DisplayRead|CpuWriteOnly|CpuRead, format: (Y_UV, 420, 8unorm, ExtSamplerOff), share_between_threads: 0, gmb_type: shared_memory, size: 360x640, debug_label: MediaGmbVideoFramePoolMappableSI_Pid:833752_Pid:833752
    [1207/193902.250822:WARNING:third_party/crashpad/crashpad/snapshot/linux/exception_snapshot_linux.cc:263] fpsimd not found
    [833719:833719:1207/193902.272407:ERROR:gpu/ipc/service/shared_image_stub.cc:206] SharedImageStub: Unable to create shared image
    [833719:833719:1207/193907.651407:ERROR:gpu/command_buffer/service/shared_image/shared_image_factory.cc:928] Could not find SharedImageBackingFactory with params: usage: Gles2Read|RasterRead|DisplayRead|CpuWriteOnly|CpuRead, format: (Y_UV, 420, 8unorm, ExtSamplerOff), share_between_threads: 0, gmb_type: shared_memory, size: 360x640, debug_label: MediaGmbVideoFramePoolMappableSI_Pid:0_Pid:0
    [833719:833719:1207/193907.652464:ERROR:gpu/ipc/service/shared_image_stub.cc:206] SharedImageStub: Unable to create shared image
    [833719:833719:1207/193907.655955:ERROR:gpu/command_buffer/service/shared_image/shared_image_manager.cc:393] SharedImageManager::ProduceSkia: Trying to Produce a Skia representation from a non-existent mailbox.
    [833719:833719:1207/193907.930707:ERROR:gpu/command_buffer/service/shared_image/shared_image_manager.cc:393] SharedImageManager::ProduceSkia: Trying to Produce a Skia representation from a non-existent mailbox.
    [833719:833719:1207/193913.095313:ERROR:gpu/command_buffer/service/shared_image/shared_image_factory.cc:928] Could not find SharedImageBackingFactory with params: usage: Gles2Read|RasterRead|DisplayRead|CpuWriteOnly|CpuRead, format: (Y_UV, 420, 8unorm, ExtSamplerOff), share_between_threads: 0, gmb_type: shared_memory, size: 360x640, debug_label: MediaGmbVideoFramePoolMappableSI_Pid:0_Pid:0
    [833719:833719:1207/193913.095521:ERROR:gpu/ipc/service/shared_image_stub.cc:206] SharedImageStub: Unable to create shared image
    [833719:833719:1207/193913.328449:ERROR:gpu/command_buffer/service/shared_image/shared_image_manager.cc:393] SharedImageManager::ProduceSkia: Trying to Produce a Skia representation from a non-existent mailbox.
    [833719:833719:1207/193916.390039:ERROR:gpu/command_buffer/service/shared_image/shared_image_factory.cc:928] Could not find SharedImageBackingFactory with params: usage: Gles2Read|RasterRead|DisplayRead|CpuWriteOnly|CpuRead, format: (Y_UV, 420, 8unorm, ExtSamplerOff), share_between_threads: 0, gmb_type: shared_memory, size: 360x640, debug_label: MediaGmbVideoFramePoolMappableSI_Pid:0_Pid:0
    [833719:833719:1207/193916.390923:ERROR:gpu/ipc/service/shared_image_stub.cc:206] SharedImageStub: Unable to create shared image
    [833719:833719:1207/193916.397921:ERROR:gpu/command_buffer/service/shared_image/shared_image_manager.cc:393] SharedImageManager::ProduceSkia: Trying to Produce a Skia representation from a non-existent mailbox.
    [833661:833703:1207/193921.825240:ERROR:google_apis/gcm/engine/registration_request.cc:292] Registration response error message: DEPRECATED_ENDPOIN

    I've not paid any attention to controlling terminals on RasPiOS recently,
    so I don't really know what to expect. It certainly looks like both Firefox
    and Chromium have things to complain about.

    Thanks for writing!

    bob prohaska

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  • From not@not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) to comp.sys.raspberry-pi on Tue Dec 9 07:49:59 2025
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    bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
    Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
    bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
    Once again an upgrade to Bookworm on a Pi5 has killed video playback in
    both Firefox and Chromium browsers. The video starts to load, thumbnails >>> keep coming but the playback doesn't start and there's no sound.

    I've tested it on the New York Times, YouTube, Netflix and some homemade >>> videos that used to work. Now nothing plays, failing in the same way.

    When you start Firefox from a terminal does it complain about any
    missing libraries? Do video files play in other programs using
    libavcodec (mplayer, ffplay)?

    If I point firefox at www.youtube.com the controlling terminal
    reports a series of

    Well it's not complaining about missing/broken libraries like
    libavcodec, so maybe that's working. Still I say again: Do video
    files play in other programs using libavcodec (mplayer, ffplay)?

    I've not paid any attention to controlling terminals on RasPiOS recently,
    so I don't really know what to expect. It certainly looks like both Firefox and Chromium have things to complain about.

    In my experience Firefox complains a lot (I don't use Chrom*), so
    it's not clear if those messages are relevent to your problem, but
    you could try disabling graphics acceleration in the settings since
    the warnings/errors are about that.
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  • From bp@bp@www.zefox.net to comp.sys.raspberry-pi on Mon Dec 8 22:28:53 2025
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    Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
    bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
    Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
    bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
    Once again an upgrade to Bookworm on a Pi5 has killed video playback in >>>> both Firefox and Chromium browsers. The video starts to load, thumbnails >>>> keep coming but the playback doesn't start and there's no sound.

    I've tested it on the New York Times, YouTube, Netflix and some homemade >>>> videos that used to work. Now nothing plays, failing in the same way.

    When you start Firefox from a terminal does it complain about any
    missing libraries? Do video files play in other programs using
    libavcodec (mplayer, ffplay)?


    I have a locally-recorded video at http://www.zefox.net/~bp/ampinvt/2nd_inverter/browser_viewable_2nd_inverter.mp4

    It plays remotely using the default vlc media player that comes with RasPiOS, but without sound (there isn't much, just some background noise).

    It does not play, nor advance the progress bar, using chromium or firefox.

    On YouTube the progress bar advances and thumbnails display, but the
    normal video window remains blank when using chromium or firefox.

    Copying a YouTube URL into vlc media player causes an error, which starts with Your input can't be opened:
    VLC is unable to open the MRL 'https://rr2---sn-nvopjoxu-25ve.googlevideo.com/videoplayback?expire=1765254131&ei=k083aZHbLNaMlu8PvrCu0As&ip=50.1.20.31&id=o-AJ-TWnr5nbiu1saDbbnTkT--M44S09bXDdhPGEg1........
    but I suppose that some deliberate access control by Youtube.

    I'm still stumped and hoping this'll get by an upgrade, as in the past.

    Thanks for writing!

    bob prohaska



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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to comp.sys.raspberry-pi on Mon Dec 8 22:33:49 2025
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    bp@www.zefox.net wrote:

    I have a locally-recorded video at http://www.zefox.net/~bp/ampinvt/2nd_inverter/ browser_viewable_2nd_inverter.mp4

    It plays remotely using the default vlc media player that comes with RasPiOS,
    but without sound (there isn't much, just some background noise).

    It does not play, nor advance the progress bar, using chromium or firefox.

    It does play here in firefox on windows, just the embedded <video> tag,
    I suspect you need more parts of gstreamer{good|bad|ugly} installed?

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  • From Mike Powell@usenet@vk3heg.net to comp.sys.raspberry-pi on Tue Dec 9 10:30:01 2025
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    Re: Re: Chromium & Firefox can't play videos again
    By: bp to All on Mon Dec 08 2025 10:00:01

    If there was reason to think upgrading to Trixie would help I'd try it,
    but so far nobody has suggested that's the case. Bullseye seemed to work pretty well, Bookworm somewhat less so. That trend isn't encouraging....

    Far as I've seen, the _only_ problem has been with watching videos. Otherwise the system is well-behaved.

    I have no idea if this is related or not, but I sometimes have problems with the sound disappearing, and IIRC this started with the Bookworm upgrade a couple of yrs back. It isn't just raspbian but happens in the parent OS also.

    Rebooting, and making sure the HDMI monitor is plugged in and turned on, usually fixes it -- even if the monitor was on the first time!

    IMHO rasp/debian has developed some issue where it has trouble sensing the state of the HDMI monitor and, if it gets it wrong it does weird things.

    If your monitor isn't HDMI then it could be a completely different issue but I thought I would mention it just in case it was helpful.
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  • From bp@bp@www.zefox.net to comp.sys.raspberry-pi on Tue Dec 9 00:22:40 2025
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    Mike Powell <usenet@vk3heg.net> wrote:
    Re: Re: Chromium & Firefox can't play videos again
    By: bp to All on Mon Dec 08 2025 10:00:01

    If there was reason to think upgrading to Trixie would help I'd try it, but so far nobody has suggested that's the case. Bullseye seemed to work pretty well, Bookworm somewhat less so. That trend isn't encouraging....

    Far as I've seen, the _only_ problem has been with watching videos. Otherwise the system is well-behaved.

    I have no idea if this is related or not, but I sometimes have problems with the sound disappearing, and IIRC this started with the Bookworm upgrade a couple of yrs back. It isn't just raspbian but happens in the parent OS also.

    Rebooting, and making sure the HDMI monitor is plugged in and turned on, usually fixes it -- even if the monitor was on the first time!

    IMHO rasp/debian has developed some issue where it has trouble sensing the state of the HDMI monitor and, if it gets it wrong it does weird things.

    If your monitor isn't HDMI then it could be a completely different issue but I
    thought I would mention it just in case it was helpful.

    It's interesting, if not obviously helpful. One of my Raspbery Pis uses an
    old HDMI Dell monitor with an internal audio splitter. From time to time
    the audio drops out but the monitor keeps working. Occasionally the monitor seems to freeze up entirely, not even responding to the power button. Both problems tend to get fixed if I pull the power for a few seconds. The total lockup seems clearly to be a monitor problem, but maybe the audio problem
    has cousins living in the Pi.

    Thanks for writing!

    bob prohaska

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  • From Daniel James@daniel@me.invalid to comp.sys.raspberry-pi on Tue Dec 9 10:42:55 2025
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    On 08/12/2025 22:28, bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
    I have a locally-recorded video at http://www.zefox.net/~bp/ampinvt/2nd_inverter/browser_viewable_2nd_inverter.mp4

    That does play here, with sound, in Firefox on Debian Trixie (on AMD64,
    not a Pi), and also on a Pi500+ running RaspiOS Trixie (no speakers, so
    I can only say the video works).

    Both machines have full desktop GUIs and VLC installed, I don't know
    whether that makes any difference. The AMD machine is running Debian
    Mate and the Pi a standard PiOS.

    Oh ... probably shouldn't make any difference but I also have cheese
    installed on both, because I was playing with webcams. I suppose cheese
    may have brought in some extra driver support ...??
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    Daniel.
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  • From bp@bp@www.zefox.net to comp.sys.raspberry-pi on Thu Dec 11 00:24:36 2025
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    A few hours ago both chromium and firefox started playing videos, both
    youtube and elsewhere.

    Two updates have been installed, one related to java and the other
    related to png, (isn't png a graphics format?) which may have been
    influential.

    It does appear that YouTube viewed with Chromium can force ads onto
    the screen, even with uBlock.origin Lite installed. On firefox, youtube
    plays correctly and I'm not seeing ads with uBlock Origin, at least for now.

    Thanks to all for paying attention!

    bob prohaska

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