In previous threads, I've proven by my own detailed testing, that
there is at least one thing non-jailbroken iOS can do which unrooted
Android can't.
But... is there anything else?
In previous threads, I've proven by my own detailed testing, that
there is at least one thing non-jailbroken iOS can do which unrooted >>Android can't.
But... is there anything else?
In iOS users can permanently share their location with others through
Find My. Does Android do that?
In iOS users can creat Shortcuts which perform numerous tasks step by
step automatically. Does Android do that?
I /think/ you can have multiple SIMs in iOS. Does Android do that?
Marion wrote:
In previous threads, I've proven by my own detailed testing, that
there is at least one thing non-jailbroken iOS can do which unrooted
Android can't.
But... is there anything else?
In iOS users can permanently share their location with others through
Find My. Does Android do that?
In iOS users can creat Shortcuts which perform numerous tasks step by
step automatically. Does Android do that?
I /think/ you can have multiple SIMs in iOS. Does Android do that?
iOS actually works speedily and efficiently
Android *cannot* do that!
Admittedly, at least part of the issue is that the crappy el cheapo
Android phones use older / slower compenents that simply can't handle
the over-bloated newer versions of Android OS they ship with.
Not doubt
the latest version of Android runs perfectly well on the high end
phones with faster/newer components and similar pricing to the iPhone.
On Sun, 3 Aug 2025 11:08:42 +1200, Your Name wrote :
iOS actually works speedily and efficiently
FACT:
Only Apple was unable to earn an "A" in efficiency in recent EU benchmarks.
On 2025-08-03, Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
On Sun, 3 Aug 2025 11:08:42 +1200, Your Name wrote :
iOS actually works speedily and efficiently
FACT:
Only Apple was unable to earn an "A" in efficiency in recent EU benchmarks.
That's a lie, not a fact.
On 2025-08-03 09:36, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2025-08-03, Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
On Sun, 3 Aug 2025 11:08:42 +1200, Your Name wrote :That's a lie, not a fact.
iOS actually works speedily and efficiently
FACT:
Only Apple was unable to earn an "A" in efficiency in recent EU benchmarks. >>
He doesn't really understand that "fact" doesn't mean the same thing as "assertion", does he?
iOS actually works speedily and efficiently
FACT:
Only Apple was unable to earn an "A" in efficiency in recent EU benchmarks.
That's a lie, not a fact.
He doesn't really understand that "fact" doesn't mean the same thing as
"assertion", does he?
IOW, its another
On Sun, 03 Aug 2025 17:41:34 +0000, Tyrone wrote :
iOS actually works speedily and efficiently
FACT:
Only Apple was unable to earn an "A" in efficiency in recent EU benchmarks.
That's a lie, not a fact.
He doesn't really understand that "fact" doesn't mean the same thing as
"assertion", does he?
IOW, its another
And yet, the *FACT* remains a fact no matter how much you hate it.
On Sun, 03 Aug 2025 17:41:34 +0000, Tyrone wrote :
iOS actually works speedily and efficiently
FACT:
Only Apple was unable to earn an "A" in efficiency in recent EU benchmarks.
That's a lie, not a fact.
He doesn't really understand that "fact" doesn't mean the same thing as
"assertion", does he?
IOW, its another
And yet, the *FACT* remains a fact no matter how much you hate it.
Just like the "Arlen Fact" that iOS could not have an SMB Server because Android can't!
Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
Just like the "Arlen Fact" that iOS could not have an SMB Server because
Android can't!
The only people who don’t make a mistake are those who don’t do anything.
He’s already admitted to being wrong about that. Have you ever been wrong?
Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
Just like the "Arlen Fact" that iOS could not have an SMB Server
because Android can't!
The only people who don’t make a mistake are those who don’t do
anything.
He’s already admitted to being wrong about that. Have you ever been
wrong?
On 2025-08-03 14:43, badgolferman wrote:
Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
Just like the "Arlen Fact" that iOS could not have an SMB Server because >>> Android can't!
The only people who don’t make a mistake are those who don’t do anything.
It isn't about the mistakes, Quisling...
He’s already admitted to being wrong about that. Have you ever been wrong?
...it's about how LONG it takes for him to finally admit he's wrong.
AND that he declares things to be "FACTS"...
...and that he never writes anything but facts.
Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
Just like the "Arlen Fact" that iOS could not have an SMB Server because
Android can't!
The only people who don’t make a mistake are those who don’t do anything.
He’s already admitted to being wrong about that. Have you ever been wrong?
What NEVER occurred to him was to install the SMB server on HIS OWN iPhone/iPad and TRY IT. Gee, I wonder why? Because he obviously has NO iPhones/iPads. If he did, he would know SOMETHING about iPhones/iPads.
You're nothing more than a sniveling little troll apologist
On Aug 3, 2025 at 5:43:40 PM EDT, "badgolferman"
<REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
Just like the "Arlen Fact" that iOS could not have an SMB Server
because Android can't!
The only people who don’t make a mistake are those who don’t do
anything.
He’s already admitted to being wrong about that. Have you ever been
wrong?
I thought I was wrong once. But I was mistaken.
But seriously. Arlen called us liars and accused us of "inventing
imaginary functionality". He ALWAYS claims to have multiple
iPhones/iPads, yet he admitted to "Furiously Googling" in his attempt
to prove us wrong about the SMB Server.
What NEVER occurred to him was to install the SMB server on HIS OWN iPhone/iPad and TRY IT. Gee, I wonder why? Because he obviously has
NO iPhones/iPads. If he did, he would know SOMETHING about
iPhones/iPads.
Why are you ALWAYS defending Arlen? You sound more and more like
ANOTHER sock puppet every time you run to his defense.
On Mon, 04 Aug 2025 00:31:29 +0000, Tyrone wrote :
What NEVER occurred to him was to install the SMB server on HIS OWN
iPhone/iPad and TRY IT. Gee, I wonder why? Because he obviously has
NO iPhones/iPads. If he did, he would know SOMETHING about
iPhones/iPads.
First off, to the adults on this newsgroup, to have Jolly Roger or
Joerg or Alan Baker or Chris or any of the other uneducated trolls
claim anything, is meaningless - because they have proven to have no credibility.
On 4 Aug 2025 00:00:53 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :
You're nothing more than a sniveling little troll apologist
It's clear Jolly Roger is *afraid* of this simple question:
Q: Is there really only one thing that iOS can do that Android can't do?
A: Nope, not by a long shot.
Bitch, you've NEVER had any credibility.
Q: Is there really only one thing that iOS can do that Android can't do?
A: Nope, not by a long shot.
Eat shit
Why are you ALWAYS defending Arlen? You sound more and more like
ANOTHER sock puppet every time you run to his defense.
On 4 Aug 2025 01:17:51 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :
Q: Is there really only one thing that iOS can do that Android can't do? >>> A: Nope, not by a long shot.
Eat shit
The simple question you're so deathly afraid of still remains Jolly Roger.
No matter how frightened you are of something as simple as this question...
Q: Is there really only one thing that iOS can do that Android can't do?
A: ?
On 4 Aug 2025 01:17:11 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :
Bitch, you've NEVER had any credibility.
The simple question you're so deathly afraid of still remains Jolly Roger.
No matter how frightened you are of something as simple as this question...
Q: Is there really only one thing that iOS can do that Android can't do?
A: ?
Tyrone wrote:
Why are you ALWAYS defending Arlen? You sound more and more like
ANOTHER sock puppet every time you run to his defense.
I'm not defending Arlen. I happen to not be a resentful, hateful
person like Jolly Roger. I can let things go.
The reality is Arlen is more on topic than anyone else in this group.
He provides interesting topics and provides useful information about
the iPhone. Alan just denies everything, Jolly Roger just attacks everything, Lorenz just obfuscates everything. I haven't paid enough attention to you yet, but maybe if you provided some iPhone topics
which you'd like to discuss then this group could follow what interests
you.
Tyrone wrote:
Why are you ALWAYS defending Arlen? You sound more and more like
ANOTHER sock puppet every time you run to his defense.
I'm not defending Arlen. I happen to not be a resentful, hateful
person like Jolly Roger. I can let things go.
The reality is Arlen is more on topic than anyone else in this group.
He provides interesting topics and provides useful information about
the iPhone.
Alan just denies everything, Jolly Roger just attacks everything,
Lorenz just obfuscates everything. I haven't paid enough attention to
you yet, but maybe if you provided some iPhone topics which you'd like
to discuss then this group could follow what interests you.
On Sun, 3 Aug 2025 11:08:42 +1200, Your Name wrote :
iOS actually works speedily and efficiently
FACT:
Only Apple was unable to earn an "A" in efficiency in recent EU benchmarks.
Android *cannot* do that!
FACT:
And yet, every major Android OEM was able to earn an "A" in efficiency.
On 2025-08-02 18:13:56 +0000, badgolferman said:
Marion wrote:
In previous threads, I've proven by my own detailed testing, that
there is at least one thing non-jailbroken iOS can do which unrooted Android can't.
But... is there anything else?
In iOS users can permanently share their location with others through
Find My. Does Android do that?
In iOS users can creat Shortcuts which perform numerous tasks step by
step automatically. Does Android do that?
I /think/ you can have multiple SIMs in iOS. Does Android do that?
iOS actually works speedily and efficiently ... Android *cannot* do that! Admittedly, at least part of the issue is that the crappy el cheapo
Android phones use older / slower compenents that simply can't handle
the over-bloated newer versions of Android OS they ship with. Not doubt
the latest version of Android runs perfectly well on the high end
phones with faster/newer components and similar pricing to the iPhone.
On Aug 2, 2025, Your Name wrote
(in article <106m5pp$1auor$1@dont-email.me>):
On 2025-08-02 18:13:56 +0000, badgolferman said:
Marion wrote:
In previous threads, I've proven by my own detailed testing, that
there is at least one thing non-jailbroken iOS can do which unrooted
Android can't.
But... is there anything else?
In iOS users can permanently share their location with others through
Find My. Does Android do that?
In iOS users can creat Shortcuts which perform numerous tasks step by
step automatically. Does Android do that?
I /think/ you can have multiple SIMs in iOS. Does Android do that?
iOS actually works speedily and efficiently ... Android *cannot* do that!
Admittedly, at least part of the issue is that the crappy el cheapo
Android phones use older / slower compenents that simply can't handle
the over-bloated newer versions of Android OS they ship with. Not doubt
the latest version of Android runs perfectly well on the high end
phones with faster/newer components and similar pricing to the iPhone.
The company I work for used to be standardised on WinPhones. Then MS screwed around with the OS, and the new version was incompatible with the old, so that the company’s various apps didn’t work anymore and had to be ‘updated. They were... just in time for MS to mess with the OS _again_. We bailed from WonPhone and set up apps on iOS and Android, users’ choice of which platform. At first, 60+% were Android, including Android tablets. Over time, the percentage of users using Android has fallen; there are now zero point zero Android tablets, and under 3% and falling phones. Almost everyone moved to iOS/iPadOS _of their own free will. The company supported both, and did not care, except that many Android devices were cheaper and the company was paying for them. The _users_, mostly using _company apps, identical on both platforms, cared. the company will be dropping Android support in December. Existing apps on Androids will continue to work, but there will be no new updates, and new apps will not be created for Android. The Voice of the People has been heard...
Does your company recommend the use of anti-malware software on Apple
devices and computers?
On 08/04/2025 10:34, David B. wrote:
Does your company recommend the use of anti-malware software on Apple
devices and computers?
Mine does not, but all our devices are MDM controlled or behind the
corporate firewall.
Please don't reply to David Brooks.
Tyrone wrote:
Why are you ALWAYS defending Arlen? You sound more and more like
ANOTHER sock puppet every time you run to his defense.
I'm not defending Arlen.
I can let things go.
The reality is Arlen is more on topic than anyone else in this group.
He provides interesting topics and provides useful information about
the iPhone.
On 08/04/2025 12:16, Alan wrote:
Please don't reply to David Brooks.
Why not?
On 08/04/2025 10:34, David B. wrote:
Does your company recommend the use of anti-malware software on Apple
devices and computers?
Mine does not, but all our devices are MDM controlled or behind the
corporate firewall.
On 08/04/2025 12:16, Alan wrote:
Please don't reply to David Brooks.
Why not?
On Aug 4, 2025, badgolferman wrote
(in article <106qn5e$28tp4$1@dont-email.me>):
On 08/04/2025 12:16, Alan wrote:
Please don't reply to David Brooks.
Why not?
Because he’s on a Mission From God to:
1. hunt down and utterly destroy the developers responsible for ClamX AV and EtreCheck
2. have my account banned from SuperNews because I tell the truth about him
3. try to make people forget that he was run out of the Royal Navy one step ahead of a general court for conduct unbecoming because of his behavior with three Nigerian and Afro-Caribbean recruits; he really likes Big Black Men. (Not thatb there’s anything wrong with that, except when he’s an officer and they are new recruits...)
He’s also an idiot, and a liar.
I think that the one thing is MDM, (Mobile Device Management) which is
why many corporations, that provide company phones, use iPhones.
My wife's former employer (she's now retired), buys tens of thousands of iPhones (and AirPods) for employees. The iPhones are locked down tight
due to HIPAA, using MDM. She had to carry a separate personal phone.
When she first started at that company they were using Nextel, which was
a nightmare because the employees frequently traveled to more remote
areas of the county where Nextel had no coverage.
Also, because of HIPAA, the Nextel PTT (Push To Talk) feature could not
be used (the employees used to call it PTA (Push To Annoy)). Then they
tried Sprint, after Sprint bought Nextel, but that was no better in
terms of coverage. Only AT&T and Verizon have adequate coverage in
Silicon Valley, so employees were often using their personal phones even
for work. Thankfully, the company eventually switched to Verizon.
I still recall my sister-in-law, who switched from a Samsung Android
phone to an iPhone, trying to set different volumes for ring and notifications (which she needed to do at work) and me explaining to her
that the iPhone doesn't have that capability. She didn't believe me, and went to an Apple store in the mall to the Genius Bar, where they told
her the same thing. iPhone sill lacks that capability, unless you
Jailbreak <http://aidyc.saurik.com/package/net.midkin.smartvolumemixer/>
or <http://apt.thebigboss.org/onepackage.php?bundleid=com.brend0n.volumemixer&db=>
but I doubt if these still work.
On Mon, 4 Aug 2025 12:04:39 -0700, sms wrote :
I think that the one thing is MDM, (Mobile Device Management) which is
why many corporations, that provide company phones, use iPhones.
My wife's former employer (she's now retired), buys tens of thousands of
iPhones (and AirPods) for employees. The iPhones are locked down tight
due to HIPAA, using MDM. She had to carry a separate personal phone.
When she first started at that company they were using Nextel, which was
a nightmare because the employees frequently traveled to more remote
areas of the county where Nextel had no coverage.
Also, because of HIPAA, the Nextel PTT (Push To Talk) feature could not
be used (the employees used to call it PTA (Push To Annoy)). Then they
tried Sprint, after Sprint bought Nextel, but that was no better in
terms of coverage. Only AT&T and Verizon have adequate coverage in
Silicon Valley, so employees were often using their personal phones even
for work. Thankfully, the company eventually switched to Verizon.
I still recall my sister-in-law, who switched from a Samsung Android
phone to an iPhone, trying to set different volumes for ring and
notifications (which she needed to do at work) and me explaining to her
that the iPhone doesn't have that capability. She didn't believe me, and
went to an Apple store in the mall to the Genius Bar, where they told
her the same thing. iPhone sill lacks that capability, unless you
Jailbreak <http://aidyc.saurik.com/package/net.midkin.smartvolumemixer/>
or
<http://apt.thebigboss.org/onepackage.php?bundleid=com.brend0n.volumemixer&db=>
but I doubt if these still work.
It's refreshing that both Steve & badgolferman brought up highly advertised
& therefore obvious iOS capabilities that seemingly don't exist on Android.
I know nothing about MDM, so I looked it up, where it appears that MDM
On 08/04/2025 12:16, Alan wrote:
Please don't reply to David Brooks.
Why not?
Does your company recommend the use of anti-malware software on Apple
devices and computers?
Mine does not, but all our devices are MDM controlled or behind the
corporate firewall.
FACT:
Only Apple was unable to earn an "A" in efficiency in recent EU benchmarks.
[Factcheck: this is false]
Android *cannot* do that!
FACT:
And yet, every major Android OEM was able to earn an "A" in efficiency.
[Factcheck: this is false]
On Mon, 4 Aug 2025 12:04:39 -0700, sms wrote :
I think that the one thing is MDM, (Mobile Device Management)
which is why many corporations, that provide company phones, use
iPhones.
My wife's former employer (she's now retired), buys tens of
thousands of iPhones (and AirPods) for employees. The iPhones are
locked down tight due to HIPAA, using MDM. She had to carry a
separate personal phone.
When she first started at that company they were using Nextel,
which was a nightmare because the employees frequently traveled to
more remote areas of the county where Nextel had no coverage.
Also, because of HIPAA, the Nextel PTT (Push To Talk) feature
could not be used (the employees used to call it PTA (Push To
Annoy)). Then they tried Sprint, after Sprint bought Nextel, but
that was no better in terms of coverage. Only AT&T and Verizon
have adequate coverage in Silicon Valley, so employees were often
using their personal phones even for work. Thankfully, the company >>eventually switched to Verizon.
I still recall my sister-in-law, who switched from a Samsung
Android phone to an iPhone, trying to set different volumes for
ring and notifications (which she needed to do at work) and me
explaining to her that the iPhone doesn't have that capability.
She didn't believe me, and went to an Apple store in the mall to
the Genius Bar, where they told her the same thing. iPhone sill
lacks that capability, unless you Jailbreak >><http://aidyc.saurik.com/package/net.midkin.smartvolumemixer/> or
<http://apt.thebigboss.org/onepackage.php?bundleid=com.brend0n.volum >>emixer&db=> but I doubt if these still work.
It's refreshing that both Steve & badgolferman brought up highly
advertised & therefore obvious iOS capabilities that seemingly don't
exist on Android.
I know nothing about MDM, so I looked it up, where it appears that
MDM is alive & well on Android, through Android Enterprise, which
includes: a. Zero-touch enrollment for large-scale deployments
b. Work profiles to separate personal & corporate data
c. Remote app distribution via Managed Google Play
d. Policy enforcement, remote wipe & device tracking
e. Security features like encryption, passcode enforcement &
geofencing REFERENCES:
<https://www.android.com/enterprise/management/>
<https://expertinsights.com/endpoint-management/the-top-mobile-device- >management-solutions-for-android> ><https://blog.scalefusion.com/top-android-mdm-solutions/>
Apparently Android MDM solutions like Scalefusion, Microsoft Intune,
VMware Workspace ONE, and IBM MaaS360 offer enterprise-grade controls
that rival or exceed iOS in flexibility based on numerous articles. >REFERENCES:
<https://simplemdm.com/blog/apple-mdm-vs-android-mdm/>
<https://www.techtarget.com/searchmobilecomputing/post/Evaluating-top-MDMs-for-Android-and-iOS>
It's a completely different question of why some corporations prefer
iOS over Android (and vice versa, of course), where some of those
reasons may be A. Uniformity:
Apple's limited device lineup makes fleet management simpler.
B. Security reputation:
Apple's closed ecosystem is perceived as more secure by the
unknowing. C. Apple Business Manager:
Offers streamlined deployment and integration with tools like Jamf.
But this doesn't mean Android can't do MDM; it just means Apple's
approach may be more appealing for certain IT teams or compliance
needs.
In summary, Steve has been great in keeping tabs on what iOS and
Android can and cannot do - which I give him credit for a valiant
effort - however - my research above shows Android has MDM too.
As such, Steve needs to be apprised that MDM isn't exclusive to iOS.
Since I think he blocks me, someone else may need to let him know.
Android Enterprise offers comprehensive device management, including >zero-touch enrollment, work profiles and remote policy enforcement.
The real difference lies in implementation.
Apple's ecosystem is more uniform, which some IT departments prefer
for simplicity. But Android's flexibility and depth, especially with
tools like Scalefusion or Intune, make it equally viable, especially
for BYOD or diverse device fleets.
So while iPhones may be popular in some corporate settings, it's not
because Android lacks MDM. It's often just a matter of preference.
In short, as far as I can tell with research, Steve needs to rethink
the MDM but I am impressed that Steve is helping to answer the
question.
The question therefore remains unanswered as far as I can tell...
Q: Is there really only one thing that iOS can do that Android can't
do? A: ?
Is there anything else iOS can do that Android doesn't already do?
Marion wrote:
I know nothing
On Mon, 4 Aug 2025 07:35:48 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :
FACT:[Factcheck: this is false]
Only Apple was unable to earn an "A" in efficiency in recent EU benchmarks. >>
Android *cannot* do that!
FACT:
And yet, every major Android OEM was able to earn an "A" in efficiency.
[Factcheck: this is false]
It's no longer shocking you Apple trolls deny that which nobody would.
Show us the "A" in efficiency that you claim Apple earned, Chris?
HINT: It doesn't exist. You're desperate to claim an A Apple didn't earn.
On 2025-08-04, WolfFan<akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
On Aug 4, 2025, badgolferman wrote
(in article <106qn5e$28tp4$1@dont-email.me>):
On 08/04/2025 12:16, Alan wrote:
Please don't reply to David Brooks.
Why not?
Because he’s on a Mission From God to:
1. hunt down and utterly destroy the developers responsible for ClamX AV and
EtreCheck
2. have my account banned from SuperNews because I tell the truth about him
3. try to make people forget that he was run out of the Royal Navy one step ahead of a general court for conduct unbecoming because of his behavior with
three Nigerian and Afro-Caribbean recruits; he really likes Big Black Men. (Not thatb there’s anything wrong with that, except when he’s an officer
and they are new recruits...)
He’s also an idiot, and a liar.
All of this makes him a perfect candidate for joining the Arlen troll club!
In previous threads, I've proven by my own detailed testing, that there is
at least one thing non-jailbroken iOS can do which unrooted Android can't.
But... is there anything else?
Note: Understanding why iOS is designed to be brain dead is an important
step in understanding what Apple's fundamental marketing strategies are.
I knew nothing [about MDM until I looked it up]
The moron finally admits what we all knew.
There is one other thing that Apple hardware and software do trounceA big part of that is because iOS doesn't support multitasking, only
every Android phone on, and that's power efficiency.
"task switching." No doubt that is intentional, in order to save power.
Utter rubbish. iphone processors are multicore so by definition can absolutely run multiple processes simultaneously aka multi-task. You can
test this easily by updating your apps while listening to music and
searching the web.
On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 18:53:54 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :
There is one other thing that Apple hardware and software do trounceA big part of that is because iOS doesn't support multitasking, only
every Android phone on, and that's power efficiency.
"task switching." No doubt that is intentional, in order to save power.
Utter rubbish. iphone processors are multicore so by definition can
absolutely run multiple processes simultaneously aka multi-task. You can
test this easily by updating your apps while listening to music and
searching the web.
These are good healthy discussions which I commend badgolferman, Chris & Steve for bringing up, since all these terms require context to understand.
The fact is...
1. Apple advertises "efficiency" but there's no evidence it exists.
(In fact, EU tests show Apple's high-efficiency claims were lies.)
On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 18:53:54 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :
But let's keep looking for something useful iOS does that Android doesn't. Any person who knows the answer to that question... knows a LOT!
But let's keep looking for something useful iOS does that Android doesn't. >> Any person who knows the answer to that question... knows a LOT!
What's ridiculous about this thread you started is that you are the one who regularly states to know iOS better than everyone else, have more Apple devices than else and test things properly unlike anyone else.
Yet you've contributed nothing to this thread. You can't even identify a single thing that is better in iOS. Anyone who knows anything that well should be able to find *something*. Why not you?
I can think of at least five right now. I challenge you to work out what
two might be.
We're seeking something COMPLTELY MISSING that is on iOS not on
Android. An example would be the rather useful ability to use
privileged ports.
Marion wrote:
We're seeking something COMPLTELY MISSING that is on iOS not on
Android. An example would be the rather useful ability to use
privileged ports.
iOS has native hearing aid support which doesn't require the
manufacturer's app installed. Does Android have that?
Marion wrote:
We're seeking something COMPLTELY MISSING that is on iOS not on
Android. An example would be the rather useful ability to use
privileged ports.
iOS has native hearing aid support which doesn't require the
manufacturer's app installed. Does Android have that?
We're seeking something COMPLTELY MISSING that is on iOS not on
Android. An example would be the rather useful ability to use
privileged ports.
iOS has native hearing aid support which doesn't require the
manufacturer's app installed. Does Android have that?
"bUt He ApOlOgIsEd!1!"
badgolferman isn't a serious person.
On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 22:17:17 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :
But let's keep looking for something useful iOS does that Android doesn't. >>> Any person who knows the answer to that question... knows a LOT!
What's ridiculous about this thread you started is that you are the one who >> regularly states to know iOS better than everyone else, have more Apple
devices than else and test things properly unlike anyone else.
Remember, I'm also the one who noticed how puny iPhone batteries are.
And I'm who noticed how crappy iPhone RAM was (until AI forced more).
Also I first reported the batterygate fiasco to this newsgroup.
And I first noticed that Google proved the iOS code was never tested.
I was the first one here to show iOS exploits far and above Android's.
And certainly I've reported many simple things iOS can't do.
Most importantly, I've reported that most of what iOS can do is simply because it's a dumb terminal making use of what the server can do.
Android can log into servers too; so if there is an iOS functionality that you love (e.g., messages) that requires logging into a server, then that's not iOS functionality at all - that's the server doing the functionality.
Yet you've contributed nothing to this thread. You can't even identify a
single thing that is better in iOS. Anyone who knows anything that well
should be able to find *something*. Why not you?
iOS has live call translation, but so does Android.
iOS has Call Screening & Hold Assist, but so does Android.
iOS has Visual Intelligence (Screenshot Actions), but so does Android.
iOS has App Tracking Transparency, but so does Android.
iOS has Universal Clipboard between devices, but so does Android.
iOS has Offline AI Tasks, but so does Android.
iOS has FaceTime Translation via AirPods, but so does Android VOIP.
etc.
I can think of at least five right now. I challenge you to work out what
two might be.
If it requires logging into a server, it's not iOS functionality, but even
if it does require logging into a server, Android can log into servers too.
Of course, AI will be changing things on both platforms as we move forward.
An example is live translation - which Android can do by logging into a server while iOS can do it somewhat on the device - but both can do it.
We're seeking something COMPLTELY MISSING that is on iOS not on Android.
An example would be the rather useful ability to use privileged ports.
And certainly I've reported many simple things iOS can't do.
Lol. You really can't help yourself, can you?
Most importantly, I've reported that most of what iOS can do is simply
because it's a dumb terminal making use of what the server can do.
Android can log into servers too; so if there is an iOS functionality that >> you love (e.g., messages) that requires logging into a server, then that's >> not iOS functionality at all - that's the server doing the functionality.
Ah here we go. Shifting goal posts.
Yet you've contributed nothing to this thread. You can't even identify a >>> single thing that is better in iOS. Anyone who knows anything that well
should be able to find *something*. Why not you?
iOS has live call translation, but so does Android.
False. It is a new feature in ios 26 so isn't available to most people. Android only does this with a separate app.
iOS has Call Screening & Hold Assist, but so does Android.
I'll take your word for it, but it's minor.
iOS has Visual Intelligence (Screenshot Actions), but so does Android.
Only available on iphone 16.
iOS has App Tracking Transparency, but so does Android.
I doubt very much that they are equivalent. Google is in the business of selling your data.
iOS has Universal Clipboard between devices, but so does Android.
Only with 3rd party apps.
iOS has Offline AI Tasks, but so does Android.
Only with 3rd party apps.
iOS has FaceTime Translation via AirPods, but so does Android VOIP.
etc.
How is that different from your first point?
In summary, you've failed the challenge. You don't actually know iOS as
well as you say you do.
I can think of at least five right now. I challenge you to work out what >>> two might be.
If it requires logging into a server, it's not iOS functionality, but even >> if it does require logging into a server, Android can log into servers too. >>
Of course, AI will be changing things on both platforms as we move forward. >>
An example is live translation - which Android can do by logging into a
server while iOS can do it somewhat on the device - but both can do it.
If you're depending on third party apps it's not an android feature.
We're seeking something COMPLTELY MISSING that is on iOS not on Android.
An example would be the rather useful ability to use privileged ports.
You're weaselling.
On 4 Aug 2025 00:01:59 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :
"bUt He ApOlOgIsEd!1!"
badgolferman isn't a serious person.
Heh heh heh...
Yet the question here is whether or not there's anything else iOS can do?
You have such a seething hatred
On 08/08/2025 11:59, Jolly Roger wrote:
You have such a seething hatred
Oh, the irony....
On 08/08/2025 11:59, Jolly Roger wrote:
You have such a seething hatred
Oh, the irony....
On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 09:36:06 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :
Is this going to be your new schtick, Arlen?And certainly I've reported many simple things iOS can't do.
Lol. You really can't help yourself, can you?
Stop that crap, Chris.
Just stop it.
Be a man. Not a baby.
On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 09:36:06 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :
And certainly I've reported many simple things iOS can't do.
Lol. You really can't help yourself, can you?
Stop that crap, Chris.
Just stop it.
Be a man. Not a baby.
Only with 3rd party apps.
So what. Almost everything you do on iOS requires servers to do it.
So what. For the purpose of this question, it doesn't even matter.
For both platforms.
In summary, you've failed the challenge. You don't actually know iOS as
well as you say you do.
Huh? You and Jolly Roger are the one who said there were "lots" of functionalities that iOS could do that Android couldn't do.
That's why I opened this thread.
To ask you (and Jolly Roger and anyone else) to name those functionalities.
Simply answer the question:
Q: Is there really only one thing that iOS can do that Android can't do?
A: ?
On 2025-08-08 09:17, badgolferman wrote:
On 08/08/2025 11:59, Jolly Roger wrote:
You have such a seething hatred
Oh, the irony....
Nah. No irony at all in what he wrote...
...which is why you clipped it.
You have such a seething hatred
Oh, the irony....
Nah. No irony at all in what he wrote...
...which is why you clipped it.
He's a coward.
On 8 Aug 2025 19:01:25 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :
You have such a seething hatred
Oh, the irony....
Nah. No irony at all in what he wrote...
...which is why you clipped it.
He's a coward.
Q: Is there really only one thing that iOS can do that Android can't do?
You have such a seething hatred
Oh, the irony....
Q: Is there really only one thing that iOS can do that Android can't do?
Nobody cares about your juvenile pissing contest
We're getting close to the point where you
realise you have no argument.
Only with 3rd party apps.
So what. Almost everything you do on iOS requires servers to do it.
So what. For the purpose of this question, it doesn't even matter.
For both platforms.
Then this is no longer a question about iOS vs Android, is it? It is what
the ecosystem differences between iOS and Android *developers* are. Apple/Google/Samsung/et al no longer have any role here.
For example, if there's a particular game that I want to play and is only available on one platform then there's no option.
In summary, you've failed the challenge. You don't actually know iOS as
well as you say you do.
Huh? You and Jolly Roger are the one who said there were "lots" of
functionalities that iOS could do that Android couldn't do.
That's why I opened this thread.
To ask you (and Jolly Roger and anyone else) to name those functionalities.
Ah, but you're the self-proclaimed expert on iOS who is here to "TEACH" us "Apple trolls" all about Apple. Aren't you? You have more Apple devices
than any of us and use them exclusively to test them so that you can inform us about what they can and cannot do.
*Except*, you are only ever interested in the deficiencies of iOS and
Apple. Never any of the strengths and benefits.
This is why I'm challenging you to answer you're own question. To highlight how blinkered you are in that you cannot even think of a single thing that iOS can do better than Android. You could have turned to chatGPT, but it doesn't even cross your mind. You have no interest in the facts.
Your response, as always, is: denial, move goalposts and attack.
You geniunely have no interest in the answer.
Next week you'll forget about it and repeat your lies.
Just like you did with the samba server capability
and you're doing with iphone batteries.
Here's one more opportunity for you to answer your own question. Lord knows this has been discussed many times on here so you should be able to find /one/. Surely?
Simply answer the question:
Q: Is there really only one thing that iOS can do that Android can't do? >> A: ?
Nope. Am up to 10 or 11 features currently. I'll share them if you can come up with one on your own.
On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 12:17:06 -0400, badgolferman wrote :
You have such a seething hatred
Oh, the irony....
Notice how vehemently Jolly Roger attacks those who are not of his
cult. Notice how fearful Jolly Roger is of what is a rather
fundamental question.
Marion wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 12:17:06 -0400, badgolferman wrote :
You have such a seething hatred
Oh, the irony....
Notice how vehemently Jolly Roger attacks those who are not of his
cult. Notice how fearful Jolly Roger is of what is a rather
fundamental question.
Lashing out like that is a sign of immaturity and insecurity.
Marion wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 12:17:06 -0400, badgolferman wrote :
You have such a seething hatred
Oh, the irony....
Notice how vehemently Jolly Roger attacks those who are not of his
cult. Notice how fearful Jolly Roger is of what is a rather
fundamental question.
Lashing out like that is a sign of immaturity and insecurity.
You have such a seething hatred
Oh, the irony....
Notice how vehemently Jolly Roger attacks those who are not of his
cult. Notice how fearful Jolly Roger is of what is a rather
fundamental question.
Lashing out like that is a sign of immaturity and insecurity.
You have such a seething hatred
Oh, the irony....
Notice how vehemently Jolly Roger attacks those who are not of his
cult. Notice how fearful Jolly Roger is of what is a rather
fundamental question.
Lashing out like that is a sign of immaturity and insecurity.
Both of which the moronic braindead know-nothing troll "Marion"
On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 18:38:22 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :
We're getting close to the point where you
realise you have no argument.
Heh heh heh... It's clear you're almost at the point where you can learn.
Q: Is there really only one thing that iOS can do that Android can't do?
A: ?
Once you accept that answer,
then we can *begin* teaching you why.
Only with 3rd party apps.
So what. Almost everything you do on iOS requires servers to do it.
So what. For the purpose of this question, it doesn't even matter.
For both platforms.
Then this is no longer a question about iOS vs Android, is it? It is what
the ecosystem differences between iOS and Android *developers* are.
Apple/Google/Samsung/et al no longer have any role here.
For example, if there's a particular game that I want to play and is only
available on one platform then there's no option.
It's a simple question where you and Jolly Roger both said there was *lots* of functionality on the iPhone which isn't on Android - so just name it.
Q: Is there really only one thing that iOS can do that Android can't do?
A: ?
Once you accept that answer, only then can we *begin* teaching you why.
Ah, but you're the self-proclaimed expert on iOS who is here to "TEACH" us >> "Apple trolls" all about Apple. Aren't you? You have more Apple devicesIn summary, you've failed the challenge. You don't actually know iOS as >>>> well as you say you do.
Huh? You and Jolly Roger are the one who said there were "lots" of
functionalities that iOS could do that Android couldn't do.
That's why I opened this thread.
To ask you (and Jolly Roger and anyone else) to name those functionalities. >>
than any of us and use them exclusively to test them so that you can inform >> us about what they can and cannot do.
*Except*, you are only ever interested in the deficiencies of iOS and
Apple. Never any of the strengths and benefits.
Huh? This question is all about the "strengths & benefits" of iPhone apps.
I'm asking you and Jolly Roger to name the functionality that you feel is
on the iPhone that isn't on Android - which both of you said were "lots".
Q: Is there really only one thing that iOS can do that Android can't do?
A: ?
Once we nail down that answer, then I can begin to teach you why it is so.
This is why I'm challenging you to answer you're own question. To highlight >> how blinkered you are in that you cannot even think of a single thing that >> iOS can do better than Android. You could have turned to chatGPT, but it
doesn't even cross your mind. You have no interest in the facts.
Heh heh heh... You're the one who said there were "lots", Chris. Not me.
I'm waiting for *you* to list what functionality you feel is on iOS that
you feel is not on Android - as you already claimed there were "lots".
Q: Is there really only one thing that iOS can do that Android can't do?
A: ?
When you learn the answer to that question, I can help teach you why.
Your response, as always, is: denial, move goalposts and attack.
It's disingenuous for you to claim I've moved the goalpost when I have repeated in every post the subject line of this thread in each response.
Q: Is there really only one thing that iOS can do that Android can't do?
A: ?
When people finally understand the answer to that question, then (& only then) can I begin the lengthy laborious process of teaching you the why.
You geniunely have no interest in the answer.
Oh yes, I do. You said "lots". Jolly Roger said "lots". So let's hear it.
I'm not afraid of the answer to that fundamental question, Chris.
Q: Is there really only one thing that iOS can do that Android can't do?
A: ?
When you come up with the answer, only then can I begin to teach you why.
Next week you'll forget about it and repeat your lies.
Just like you did with the samba server capability
and you're doing with iphone batteries.
Here's one more opportunity for you to answer your own question. Lord knows >> this has been discussed many times on here so you should be able to find
/one/. Surely?
You are making a lot of excuses Chris.
But if you have real functionality, then why not just answer the question?
You can't say, "oh, well, ApplePay is only on iOS & I love it" because the functionality exists on both platforms - regardless of marketing branding.
The question is about fundamental functionality; not about Apple branding.
Q: Is there really only one thing that iOS can do that Android can't do?
A: ?
Once you inculcate the answer, then I can begin to teach you why it is so.
On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 23:42:00 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :
You have such a seething hatred
Oh, the irony....
Notice how vehemently Jolly Roger attacks those who are not of his
cult. Notice how fearful Jolly Roger is of what is a rather
fundamental question.
Lashing out like that is a sign of immaturity and insecurity.
What's even more ironic is Jolly Roger viciously verbally attacked me
simply for what he calls "being obsessed with Apple" on an Apple
newsgroup.
Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 18:38:22 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :
We're getting close to the point where you
realise you have no argument.
Heh heh heh... It's clear you're almost at the point where you can learn.
Q: Is there really only one thing that iOS can do that Android can't do?
A: ?
Once you accept that answer,
What answer? You've not provided any. Which is the issue, here.
You have such a seething hatred
Oh, the irony....
Notice how vehemently Jolly Roger attacks those who are not of his
cult. Notice how fearful Jolly Roger is of what is a rather
fundamental question.
Lashing out like that is a sign of immaturity and insecurity.
What's even more ironic is Jolly Roger viciously verbally attacked me
simply for what he calls "being obsessed with Apple" on an Apple
newsgroup.
Hey guys, the dip shit troll who *literally* spends 24 hours a day seven
days a week posting in the Apple news groups, consistently topping the
charts wants you all to know he's *definitely* not obsessed.
I'm asking you and Jolly Roger to name the functionality that you feel is
on the iPhone that isn't on Android - which both of you said were "lots".
And remember you've contributed nothing to this discussion. Your lofty position is nothing more than a perch of ignorance.
On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 23:10:10 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :
I'm asking you and Jolly Roger to name the functionality that you feel is >>> on the iPhone that isn't on Android - which both of you said were "lots". >>And remember you've contributed nothing to this discussion. Your lofty
position is nothing more than a perch of ignorance.
Heh heh heh... oh, I've contributed a lot to this discussion Chris.
The very fact you and Jolly Roger both said "lots" and yet neither of you
has come up with a single useful iPhone functionality an iPhone tells us
all a ton about lack of capabilities of the iPhone compared to Android.
On 10 Aug 2025 00:09:58 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :
You have such a seething hatred
Oh, the irony....
Notice how vehemently Jolly Roger attacks those who are not of his
cult. Notice how fearful Jolly Roger is of what is a rather
fundamental question.
Lashing out like that is a sign of immaturity and insecurity.
What's even more ironic is Jolly Roger viciously verbally attacked me
simply for what he calls "being obsessed with Apple" on an Apple
newsgroup.
Hey guys, the dip shit troll who *literally* spends 24 hours a day seven
days a week posting in the Apple news groups, consistently topping the
charts wants you all to know he's *definitely* not obsessed.
You do know I'm on the Android & Windows newsgroups also, JR, right?
The very fact you and Jolly Roger both said "lots" and yet neither of you
has come up with a single useful iPhone functionality an iPhone tells us
all a ton about lack of capabilities of the iPhone compared to Android.
That's our contributions.
Lashing out like that is a sign of immaturity and insecurity.
What's even more ironic is Jolly Roger viciously verbally attacked me
simply for what he calls "being obsessed with Apple" on an Apple
newsgroup.
Hey guys, the dip shit troll who *literally* spends 24 hours a day seven >>> days a week posting in the Apple news groups, consistently topping the
charts wants you all to know he's *definitely* not obsessed.
You do know I'm on the Android & Windows newsgroups also, JR, right?
And in the Windows ngs at least, you're either talking to yourself in your "tutorials" no-one wants or getting your ass handed to you for not knowing the basics or providing convoluted non solutions. Your co-pilot thread is a classic! lol.
You are making nonsense. You can't teach why. You can teach how or
what or when, but not why.
Chris wrote:
You are making nonsense. You can't teach why. You can teach how or
what or when, but not why.
Isn't that what "reasoning with someone" is all about? You teach or
discuss why something is acceptable or not acceptable or why it is that
way.
As an example, you teach a child why stealing is immoral and wrong.
You don't teach them how, what or when about stealing.
On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 09:55:21 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :
The very fact you and Jolly Roger both said "lots" and yet neither of you >>> has come up with a single useful iPhone functionality an iPhone tells us >>> all a ton about lack of capabilities of the iPhone compared to Android.
That's our contributions.
I agree with you Chris.
The very fact you and Jolly Roger both said "lots" and yet neither of you >>>> has come up with a single useful iPhone functionality an iPhone tells us >>>> all a ton about lack of capabilities of the iPhone compared to Android. >>>That's our contributions.
I agree with you Chris.
Great. Now where's your contribution?
On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 22:17:10 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :
The very fact you and Jolly Roger both said "lots" and yet neither of you >>>>> has come up with a single useful iPhone functionality an iPhone tells us >>>>> all a ton about lack of capabilities of the iPhone compared to Android. >>>>That's our contributions.
I agree with you Chris.
Great. Now where's your contribution?
Worse, you Apple trolls *hate* the question so much that we've expended 91 posts (yes, I counted them) desperately trying to *deflect* the question.
Worse, you Apple trolls *hate* the question so much that we've expended 91 >> posts (yes, I counted them) desperately trying to *deflect* the question.
The only one deflecting here is you. You are the iOS expert here who
teaches the "Apple trolls", yet you have nothing on this simple topic.
This is a normal pattern for you where you post regularly 200-300 times a months, if not more. There is no substance in practically everything you post. Just boring repetition.
On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 10:07:42 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :
Lashing out like that is a sign of immaturity and insecurity.
What's even more ironic is Jolly Roger viciously verbally attacked
me simply for what he calls "being obsessed with Apple" on an
Apple newsgroup.
Hey guys, the dip shit troll who *literally* spends 24 hours a day
seven days a week posting in the Apple news groups, consistently
topping the charts wants you all to know he's *definitely* not
obsessed.
You do know I'm on the Android & Windows newsgroups also, JR, right?
And in the Windows ngs at least, you're either talking to yourself in
your "tutorials" no-one wants or getting your ass handed to you for
not knowing the basics or providing convoluted non solutions. Your
co-pilot thread is a classic! lol.
For you to then turn that fact into a pissing contest
...said the little whiny bitch
On 11 Aug 2025 17:58:51 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :
...said the little whiny bitch
Awwww....
version is much better in my opinion. It took a while for the Android
phones in our organization to be compatible with MaaS360 so they didn't
have access to encrypted emails, thus users chose the iOS phones way
more often. Eventually the Android phones became compatible but it
wasn't long after that Intune got implemented. Frankly I don't know
one person in our organization who uses a corporate Android phone.
Surely there are some, but it may be that you must pay an extra fee for Intune to support Android phones.
I can run ForeFlight on iOS, but not on Android.
The big issue is that MDM on iOS is an Apple feature that works on all iPhones and iPads.
MDM on Android requires an organization choose a third party, and it
doesn't necessarily work on all Android devices.
"No one ever got fired for buying iPhones and using Apple MDM," is akin
to the saying "nobody ever got fired for buying IBM."
AI says: "Avoiding blame for a poor choice often outweighs the potential benefits of a more adventurous selection."
Note: Understanding why iOS is designed to be brain dead is an important
step in understanding what Apple's fundamental marketing strategies are.
Yes there is. I can go to my local Apple store 5 miles away and have
them transfer my account, apps, and settings to a new iOS device.
I can take my iOS iPad with a broken screen to that same store and get
it replaced at no additional cost under terms of AppleCare+. That
includes transferring account, apps and settings.
I can run ForeFlight on iOS, but not on Android.
In fact, having moved from Android to iOS I have found nothing that I
had on Android phones and tablets is missing on iOS.
That includes numerous Google apps, like Google Maps.
However, Android will not run
Apple Maps and most other Apple apps. In other words, for my uses iOS
has more choices than Android. Thank you Google for making iOS more attractive with iOS app versions.
If Apple is brain dead why are all those great Google apps available on iOS?
Given all his expertise, knowledge and teaching ability our regular troll cannot fathom that ios has some benefits over other devices.
Note that they are fundamental to the OS and do not require downloading
third party apps which will likely need a separate account and may
introduce vulnerabilities or may be a bit flakey.
He will of course deny they are useful, claim they have a direct equivalent in android and will change the definition multiple times.
So here's the list in no particular order.
FaceID
Universal Clipboard
Backtap
Geofencing and shortcuts in general
Homekit integration
Centre stage
Find My - google's is nowhere near as useful being too new
Family account settings (great for managing subs for kids)
visual voicemail
Facetime hand gestures
scan to pdf (and annotate)
Bonus one for ipadOS: Sidecar
Personally, I use most, but not all of the above and would miss them if I didn't have them.
Arlen checklist:
On Tue, 5 Aug 2025 07:06:41 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :
Arlen checklist:
Try as we might, after over a hundred posts, nobody can find anything
useful on iOS that isn't already on Android except for a single thing.
+----------------------------------------+--------+---------+---------
-+ | Feature | iOS | Android |
Exclusive| >+----------------------------------------+--------+---------+---------
-+ | Live Text / OCR | Yes | Yes | No
| | App Clips / Instant Apps | Yes | Yes | No
| | Offline Device Tracking (Find My) | Yes | Yes | No
| | Precise Location Toggle | Yes | Yes | No
| | VoIP Integration (CallKit / TelecomMgr)| Yes | Yes | No
| | Private Relay / IP Obfuscation | Yes | Yes | No
| | Background Task Scheduling | Yes | Yes | No
| | Multicast / Raw Socket Access | Limited| Limited | No
| | Bluetooth LE Audio / Nearby Sharing | Yes | Yes | No
| | App Sandbox / Entitlement Model | Yes | Yes | No
| | Per-App VPN Routing | Yes | Yes | No
|
+----------------------------------------+--------+---------+---------
-+
Do we all yet agree that we've answered this question long ago?
Q: Is there really only one thing that iOS can do that Android can't
do? A: ?
If so, are you ready to learn why?
If so, are you ready to learn why?
Tell me why, but first tell me why iOS can do that one thing Android
can't.
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