You will never get trolls to buy in; otherwise they wouldn't be trolls.
John Hill wrote on Fri, 1 Nov 2024 08:01:46 -0000 (UTC) :
You will never get trolls to buy in; otherwise they wouldn't be trolls.
You are correct that the Apple trolls like Alan Baker, Joerg Lorenz, Chris, Alan Browne, Jolly Roger, Hemidactylus, nospam, Lewis, et al., will always defend Apple to the death, no matter the truth - because... hmmm.. Why?
They'll always make inane excuses for why Apple has more zero-day exploits, or why Apple didn't have call recording, or why Apple doesn't allow interoperability, or why Apple products don't have basic hardware, or why Apple always is chintzy on basics such as RAM & battery capacity, etc.
Why do the Apple trolls inundate this newsgroup with those inane apologies?
I know why.
Do you?
HINT: Message-ID: <vg2vg8$2huv$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
<https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=17514&group=misc.phone.mobile.iphone#17514>
But Android owners upgrade phones more often than iPhone owners.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/it-s-official-android-phone- owners-upgrade-more-often-than-iphone-users/ar-AA1seZ2t? ocid=entnewsntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=acd4d3617ea848eb984eda2761425876&ei=28
Explain that
Indeed. But does anyone know where nospam and Lewis are? Both
disappeared a bit abruptly.
Between the constant trolls and the people preferring those trolls to dominate the group through lack of correction/truth, I doubt either one
of them sees much of a benefit in hanging around. If this place is to
become just another crappy advocacy group where trolls have free reign,
there isn't much good information to be had here.
On 11/2/2024 1:27 PM, Tom Elam wrote:
<snip>
But Android owners upgrade phones more often than iPhone owners.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/it-s-official-android-phone-
owners-upgrade-more-often-than-iphone-users/ar-AA1seZ2t?
ocid=entnewsntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=acd4d3617ea848eb984eda2761425876&ei=28
Explain that
Here are some reasons that I can postulate:
On 02.11.24 18:37, sms wrote:
On 11/2/2024 1:27 PM, Tom Elam wrote:
<snip>
But Android owners upgrade phones more often than iPhone owners.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/it-s-official-android-phone-
owners-upgrade-more-often-than-iphone-users/ar-AA1seZ2t?
ocid=entnewsntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=acd4d3617ea848eb984eda2761425876&ei=28
Explain that
Here are some reasons that I can postulate:
(Crap snipped)
You are a speculating idiot and Troll not delivering the smallest piece
of evidence for anything.
Here are some reasons that I can postulate:
On 11/2/2024 1:27 PM, Tom Elam wrote:
<snip>
But Android owners upgrade phones more often than iPhone owners.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/it-s-official-android-phone-
owners-upgrade-more-often-than-iphone-users/ar-AA1seZ2t?
ocid=entnewsntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=acd4d3617ea848eb984eda2761425876&ei=28
Explain that
Here are some reasons that I can postulate:
1. Android device makers tend to introduce new features at a more rapid
pace than Apple does for the iPhone. Apple meters out new features
slowly to encourage updates but many of those features are not
sufficiently attractive to warrant an upgrade.
2. Apple removes features from their devices causing many iPhone owners
to delay upgrades because they don't want to lose features.
a)What are the best selling iPhones of all time? The 6/6+ and
6s/6s+, the last two models that had a headphone jack.
b) A lot of U.S. iPhone users have stuck with the 13/13 Pro because they don't want to lose the physical SIM card slot.
3. iPhones are more expensive than comparable Android phones so the
Android owner is more willing to spend the money on an upgrade.
4. Battery replacement on iPhones is relatively inexpensive and widely available and you get a recently manufactured battery, not NOS (new old stock) that has deteriorated.
5. iPhone users care less about features like higher-quality music
playback while Android users want the latest aptX or LDAC codec. Since Airpods don't support these codec anyway, there's no reason to worry
about the phone having that codec.
6. Carriers offer better upgrade deals on Android devices than iOS
devices. You can often get a "free" Android phone, even on prepaid
carriers, while iPhones have subsidy but much lower.
As a former long-time Android phone and tablet user and defender I can postulate too. Android feature roll-outs and OS versions happened
slowly, if at all, and were very uneven across device brands. I never
got more than one OS version update on the many HTC, Moto and Samsung devices I owned. I had to upgrade to get the latest, and even then new phones often did not have the latest OS installed.]
I have had to replace a battery on my iPhone 14. That was because I
tried wireless charging in the car that overheated the phone. The replacement was easy. I took it to the local Apple Store and they had it back to me in 2 hours.
That was 6 months ago and battery life is still
100%. The cost? $0. AppleCare+ took care of it.
No questions asked.
have owned iPhones and iPads since the iPhone 6s era. That's the only battery replaced spanning 8 years and 6s, SE and 14 Pro versions.
I'll never go back. There is no Android Store 15 minutes away. My phone
and tablet get annual OS updates on the day they are released, and
regular feature and security updates too that.
Tom Elam wrote on Sun, 3 Nov 2024 08:18:59 -0500 :
As a former long-time Android phone and tablet user and defender I can
postulate too. Android feature roll-outs and OS versions happened
slowly, if at all, and were very uneven across device brands. I never
got more than one OS version update on the many HTC, Moto and Samsung
devices I owned. I had to upgrade to get the latest, and even then new
phones often did not have the latest OS installed.]
FACTS. Not propaganda please.
You are wrong. More to the point, your data is old. It's no longer valid. You're five to ten years behind in all your data - so you're just wrong.
If you used Android only two or three years ago, you won't recognize
Android of today because that's how much has changed in a short time.
a. The iPhone has far more bugs than Android now (and far more exploits!).
b. The iPhone has far shorter operating system support than Android now.
c. With respect to fragmentation, even that is very old data.
More Samsung devices alone are sold than iPhones are, where the "fragmentation" you decry doesn't exist if you stick with Pixels &
Samsungs.
To complain that other brands provide valuable choices isn't really a fair complaint because you don't get ANY of those choices with Apple.
And Apple's puny five years of promised supprot pales in comparison to the Samsung and Pixel promise of seven years of full hotfix support.
Remember, of all common consumer operating systems, Apple is the only one with support so bad they only fully support a single release at a time.
Those are facts. Modern facts. Not facts from ten years ago.
Those are facts from today.
You're welcome to form a strong opinion based on old data, but just say
that your data doesn't take into account the reality of today's devices.
I have had to replace a battery on my iPhone 14. That was because I
tried wireless charging in the car that overheated the phone. The
replacement was easy. I took it to the local Apple Store and they had it
back to me in 2 hours.
That's absurd. My Android debuted around the time of the iPhone 12, and
it's still going strong. But it has a modern-sized battery.
No iPhone in the world has a batter as big as the one in my free phone. That's the main reason iPhone batteries need to be replaced more often.
Last we checked Apple replaces almost fifteen million batteries in the USA alone per year. Think about that. It's huge. Apple batteries are crap.
Not a single iPhone battery is even close in capacity to that of my free Android phone (which only retailed for about two hundred dollars MSRP).
That was 6 months ago and battery life is still
100%. The cost? $0. AppleCare+ took care of it.
Remember I said that the Apple trolls are ignorant? Remember?
Guess what? How did you get that AppleCare+ without paying for it?
No questions asked.
I have a question for you.
Since almost nobody on Android pays for any extra warranty, why do most
Apple iPhone owners pay for AppleCare+ when it's never needed?
Think about that.
Apple owners are so terrified of the horrendous repair costs, that they'll pay any amount of subscription fees just to not have to worry about them.
have owned iPhones and iPads since the iPhone 6s era. That's the only
battery replaced spanning 8 years and 6s, SE and 14 Pro versions.
The Apple iPads actually have decently sized batteries as it's only the iPhone that uses comically cheap chintzy batteries in terms of capacity.
Every time you replace a battery (and millions are replaced every year!), Apple is laughing at you AppleCare+ owners all the way to the bank.
I'll never go back. There is no Android Store 15 minutes away. My phone
and tablet get annual OS updates on the day they are released, and
regular feature and security updates too that.
The one thing you're right about is that there is no such thing as an "Android Store", which nobody on Android needs - but iPhone owners do.
I have plenty of Apple devices and when I take them to the Genius Bar, the "Genius" at the Apple Store asks me what a Decibel is when I tell him that
I teste the iPhone side-by-side with my free Samsung & the Wi-Fi stinks.
These "Genius" Bar employees don't know how things work in the real world
as you can't test Wi-Fi without knowing what a Decibel means.
All the Genius Bar employees do is test the phone for basic stuff (like
water penetration) and recommend a new iPhone if it fails their tests.
Remember, Apple lost the lawsuits for exactly that reason.
Even Apple didn't tell its Genius Bar employees that they purposefully lowered the life of the iPhone (which they paid a criminal fine for!).
Still... the free Apple Store Genius Bar (and free classes) are a nice
touch because Apple knows owners are petrified by the complexity of tech.
On Sun, 3 Nov 2024 15:14:10 -0000 (UTC), Andrews wrote:
Tom Elam wrote on Sun, 3 Nov 2024 08:18:59 -0500 :
As a former long-time Android phone and tablet user and defender I can
postulate too. Android feature roll-outs and OS versions happened
slowly, if at all, and were very uneven across device brands. I never
got more than one OS version update on the many HTC, Moto and Samsung
devices I owned. I had to upgrade to get the latest, and even then new
phones often did not have the latest OS installed.]
FACTS. Not propaganda please.
You are wrong. More to the point, your data is old. It's no longer valid.
You're five to ten years behind in all your data - so you're just wrong.
If you used Android only two or three years ago, you won't recognize
Android of today because that's how much has changed in a short time.
a. The iPhone has far more bugs than Android now (and far more exploits!). >> b. The iPhone has far shorter operating system support than Android now.
c. With respect to fragmentation, even that is very old data.
More Samsung devices alone are sold than iPhones are, where the
"fragmentation" you decry doesn't exist if you stick with Pixels &
Samsungs.
To complain that other brands provide valuable choices isn't really a fair >> complaint because you don't get ANY of those choices with Apple.
And Apple's puny five years of promised supprot pales in comparison to the >> Samsung and Pixel promise of seven years of full hotfix support.
Remember, of all common consumer operating systems, Apple is the only one
with support so bad they only fully support a single release at a time.
Those are facts. Modern facts. Not facts from ten years ago.
Those are facts from today.
You're welcome to form a strong opinion based on old data, but just say
that your data doesn't take into account the reality of today's devices.
I have had to replace a battery on my iPhone 14. That was because I
tried wireless charging in the car that overheated the phone. The
replacement was easy. I took it to the local Apple Store and they had it >>> back to me in 2 hours.
That's absurd. My Android debuted around the time of the iPhone 12, and
it's still going strong. But it has a modern-sized battery.
No iPhone in the world has a batter as big as the one in my free phone.
That's the main reason iPhone batteries need to be replaced more often.
Last we checked Apple replaces almost fifteen million batteries in the USA >> alone per year. Think about that. It's huge. Apple batteries are crap.
Not a single iPhone battery is even close in capacity to that of my free
Android phone (which only retailed for about two hundred dollars MSRP).
That was 6 months ago and battery life is still
100%. The cost? $0. AppleCare+ took care of it.
Remember I said that the Apple trolls are ignorant? Remember?
Guess what? How did you get that AppleCare+ without paying for it?
No questions asked.
I have a question for you.
Since almost nobody on Android pays for any extra warranty, why do most
Apple iPhone owners pay for AppleCare+ when it's never needed?
Think about that.
Apple owners are so terrified of the horrendous repair costs, that they'll >> pay any amount of subscription fees just to not have to worry about them.
have owned iPhones and iPads since the iPhone 6s era. That's the only
battery replaced spanning 8 years and 6s, SE and 14 Pro versions.
The Apple iPads actually have decently sized batteries as it's only the
iPhone that uses comically cheap chintzy batteries in terms of capacity.
Every time you replace a battery (and millions are replaced every year!),
Apple is laughing at you AppleCare+ owners all the way to the bank.
I'll never go back. There is no Android Store 15 minutes away. My phone
and tablet get annual OS updates on the day they are released, and
regular feature and security updates too that.
The one thing you're right about is that there is no such thing as an
"Android Store", which nobody on Android needs - but iPhone owners do.
I have plenty of Apple devices and when I take them to the Genius Bar, the >> "Genius" at the Apple Store asks me what a Decibel is when I tell him that >> I teste the iPhone side-by-side with my free Samsung & the Wi-Fi stinks.
These "Genius" Bar employees don't know how things work in the real world
as you can't test Wi-Fi without knowing what a Decibel means.
All the Genius Bar employees do is test the phone for basic stuff (like
water penetration) and recommend a new iPhone if it fails their tests.
Remember, Apple lost the lawsuits for exactly that reason.
Even Apple didn't tell its Genius Bar employees that they purposefully
lowered the life of the iPhone (which they paid a criminal fine for!).
Still... the free Apple Store Genius Bar (and free classes) are a nice
touch because Apple knows owners are petrified by the complexity of tech.
But how much does that Apple Care added warranty cost anyways?
Tom Elam wrote on Sun, 3 Nov 2024 08:18:59 -0500 :
As a former long-time Android phone and tablet user and defender I can
postulate too. Android feature roll-outs and OS versions happened
slowly, if at all, and were very uneven across device brands. I never
got more than one OS version update on the many HTC, Moto and Samsung
devices I owned. I had to upgrade to get the latest, and even then new
phones often did not have the latest OS installed.]
FACTS. Not propaganda please.
You are wrong. More to the point, your data is old. It's no longer valid. You're five to ten years behind in all your data - so you're just wrong.
If you used Android only two or three years ago, you won't recognize
Android of today because that's how much has changed in a short time.
a. The iPhone has far more bugs than Android now (and far more exploits!).
b. The iPhone has far shorter operating system support than Android now.
c. With respect to fragmentation, even that is very old data.
More Samsung devices alone are sold than iPhones are, where the "fragmentation" you decry doesn't exist if you stick with Pixels &
Samsungs.
To complain that other brands provide valuable choices isn't really a fair complaint because you don't get ANY of those choices with Apple.
And Apple's puny five years of promised supprot pales in comparison to the Samsung and Pixel promise of seven years of full hotfix support.
Remember, of all common consumer operating systems, Apple is the only one with support so bad they only fully support a single release at a time.
Those are facts. Modern facts. Not facts from ten years ago.
Those are facts from today.
You're welcome to form a strong opinion based on old data, but just say
that your data doesn't take into account the reality of today's devices.
I have had to replace a battery on my iPhone 14. That was because I
tried wireless charging in the car that overheated the phone. The
replacement was easy. I took it to the local Apple Store and they had it
back to me in 2 hours.
That's absurd. My Android debuted around the time of the iPhone 12, and
it's still going strong. But it has a modern-sized battery.
No iPhone in the world has a batter as big as the one in my free phone. That's the main reason iPhone batteries need to be replaced more often.
Last we checked Apple replaces almost fifteen million batteries in the USA alone per year. Think about that. It's huge. Apple batteries are crap.
Not a single iPhone battery is even close in capacity to that of my free Android phone (which only retailed for about two hundred dollars MSRP).
That was 6 months ago and battery life is still
100%. The cost? $0. AppleCare+ took care of it.
Remember I said that the Apple trolls are ignorant? Remember?
Guess what? How did you get that AppleCare+ without paying for it?
No questions asked.
I have a question for you.
Since almost nobody on Android pays for any extra warranty, why do most
Apple iPhone owners pay for AppleCare+ when it's never needed?
Think about that.
Apple owners are so terrified of the horrendous repair costs, that they'll pay any amount of subscription fees just to not have to worry about them.
have owned iPhones and iPads since the iPhone 6s era. That's the only
battery replaced spanning 8 years and 6s, SE and 14 Pro versions.
The Apple iPads actually have decently sized batteries as it's only the iPhone that uses comically cheap chintzy batteries in terms of capacity.
Every time you replace a battery (and millions are replaced every year!), Apple is laughing at you AppleCare+ owners all the way to the bank.
I'll never go back. There is no Android Store 15 minutes away. My phone
and tablet get annual OS updates on the day they are released, and
regular feature and security updates too that.
The one thing you're right about is that there is no such thing as an "Android Store", which nobody on Android needs - but iPhone owners do.
I have plenty of Apple devices and when I take them to the Genius Bar, the "Genius" at the Apple Store asks me what a Decibel is when I tell him that
I teste the iPhone side-by-side with my free Samsung & the Wi-Fi stinks.
These "Genius" Bar employees don't know how things work in the real world
as you can't test Wi-Fi without knowing what a Decibel means.
All the Genius Bar employees do is test the phone for basic stuff (like
water penetration) and recommend a new iPhone if it fails their tests.
Remember, Apple lost the lawsuits for exactly that reason.
Even Apple didn't tell its Genius Bar employees that they purposefully lowered the life of the iPhone (which they paid a criminal fine for!).
Still... the free Apple Store Genius Bar (and free classes) are a nice
touch because Apple knows owners are petrified by the complexity of tech.
Just a few replies.
I dropped my iPad 9 and cracked the screen. AppleCare+ replaced the iPad.
The Genius Bar people are incredibly helpful. I took an AirTag in that
had stopped working. The tech checked it and recommended a different
battery brand. That fixed it.
I bought a M1 Macbook and it bricked after 14 days. The Genius Bar tech offered to get it fixed but I asked for and received a full refund.
As for software and hardware support Apple far surpasses Android.
But you don't have to believe me.
https://news.techable.com/apples-software-support-for-iphones-how-long/ "Apple typically provides iOS updates for iPhones for about six to eight years. For example, the iPhone 15 series, released in September 2023, is expected to receive updates until 2031. Similarly, the iPhone 14 series, launched in 2022, will be supported until 2029. Older models like the
iPhone 8 and iPhone X, released in 2017, have recently reached the end
of their update cycle as of 2023.
Apple's support isn't limited to just software updates. The company also offers hardware support for about five to seven years after the last
sale date of the product. This means users can get their devices
serviced or repaired at Apple Stores and authorized service providers
during this period. This dual support system ensures that iPhones remain functional and secure long after their initial release'.
Most Android manufacturers, including major brands like Samsung and
Google, typically offer around three to four years of updates.
For
instance, Google's Pixel phones have started to offer five years of
updates, but this still falls short of Apple's standard. OnePlus offers three years of major updates and four years of security updates, while Motorola and Sony lag behind with even shorter support periods''." https://www.businessinsider.com/guides/tech/iphone-vs-android
"Apple has a consistent history of keeping older iPhone models secure against common security threats."
"Android manufacturers have a comparatively poor history of keeping
their phones supported with software and security updates."
"Apple keeps more generations of iPhones supported with security updates than any Android phone maker we know about."
But facts will never convince you.
Although I agree the issue is overblown the usual crowd, I disagree it's a non-issue.
John Hill wrote on Fri, 1 Nov 2024 08:01:46 -0000 (UTC) :
You will never get trolls to buy in; otherwise they wouldn't be trolls.
You are correct that the Apple trolls like Alan Baker, Joerg Lorenz, Chris, Alan Browne, Jolly Roger, Hemidactylus, nospam, Lewis, et al., will always defend Apple to the death, no matter the truth - because... hmmm.. Why?
They'll always make inane excuses for why Apple has more zero-day exploits, or why Apple didn't have call recording, or why Apple doesn't allow interoperability, or why Apple products don't have basic hardware, or why Apple always is chintzy on basics such as RAM & battery capacity, etc.
Why do the Apple trolls inundate this newsgroup with those inane apologies?
I know why.
Do you?
Jolly Roger wrote on 2 Nov 2024 18:31:12 GMT :
Indeed. But does anyone know where nospam and Lewis are? Both
disappeared a bit abruptly.
Between the constant trolls and the people preferring those trolls to
dominate the group through lack of correction/truth, I doubt either one
of them sees much of a benefit in hanging around. If this place is to
become just another crappy advocacy group where trolls have free reign,
there isn't much good information to be had here.
As Jolly Roger clearly showed, all you Apple trolls are the same as nospam
in almost every way. Same as Lewis. Same as JF Mezei. You're all trolls.
It was clear to everyone that the only role nospam played was to make inane excuses for why the iPhone didn't have what every other phone already had.
According to nospam's "nobody wants it" & "nobody needs it" on everything that everyone else had except iPhone owners, apparently everyone wants 4G (not 5G); and everyone wants anemic RAM; and everyone wants substandard batteries; and everyone wants more zero-day exploits in history than any Android phone every had.
To you Apple trolls, Lewis, nospam, Jolly Roger, Haemactylus, Chris, Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Joerg Lorenz, etc., nobody wants call recording.
And yet Apple added it recently. Fancy that. People wanted it after all.
Same with the laughably paltry RAM Apple chintzes out with on the iPhone. Nobody wants RAM according to all you Apple trolls. Nobody needs it.
Yet Apple was forced to add RAM to the iPhone 16 due to AI needs.
Fancy that. People did want modern RAM capacity.
Speaking of modern capacity, nospam claimed nobody wanted modern batteries. Nobody needed them. And yet, the EU told Apple to stop selling any new
iPhone 14 models because not a single iPhone prior to the iPhone 15 passes the EU's lifetime tests.
Fancy that.
Every one of you Apple trolls says nobody wants modern functionality in an iPhone, and yet, the EU told Apple if they don't finally provide modern functionality, Apple would have to stop selling all new iPhones in Europe.
Finally, Apple added these things that you Apple trolls claim nobody wants. Most Apple had to be forced to add (the RAM they did on their own though).
Linux for better or worse doesn't need people bashing other OS's to support it,
they can write their own damn code to support it or STFU.
Windows is excrement, always has been, always will be.
Tom Elam wrote on Sun, 3 Nov 2024 08:18:59 -0500 :
As a former long-time Android phone and tablet user and defender I can
postulate too. Android feature roll-outs and OS versions happened
slowly, if at all, and were very uneven across device brands. I never
got more than one OS version update on the many HTC, Moto and Samsung
devices I owned. I had to upgrade to get the latest, and even then new
phones often did not have the latest OS installed.]
FACTS. Not propaganda please.
You are wrong. More to the point, your data is old. It's no longer valid. You're five to ten years behind in all your data - so you're just wrong.
If you used Android only two or three years ago, you won't recognize
Android of today because that's how much has changed in a short time.
a. The iPhone has far more bugs than Android now (and far more exploits!).
b. The iPhone has far shorter operating system support than Android now.
c. With respect to fragmentation, even that is very old data.
More Samsung devices alone are sold than iPhones are, where the "fragmentation" you decry doesn't exist if you stick with Pixels &
Samsungs.
To complain that other brands provide valuable choices isn't really a fair complaint because you don't get ANY of those choices with Apple.
And Apple's puny five years of promised supprot pales in comparison to the Samsung and Pixel promise of seven years of full hotfix support.
Remember, of all common consumer operating systems, Apple is the only one with support so bad they only fully support a single release at a time.
Those are facts. Modern facts. Not facts from ten years ago.
Those are facts from today.
You're welcome to form a strong opinion based on old data, but just say
that your data doesn't take into account the reality of today's devices.
I have had to replace a battery on my iPhone 14. That was because I
tried wireless charging in the car that overheated the phone. The
replacement was easy. I took it to the local Apple Store and they had it
back to me in 2 hours.
That's absurd. My Android debuted around the time of the iPhone 12, and
it's still going strong. But it has a modern-sized battery.
No iPhone in the world has a batter as big as the one in my free phone. That's the main reason iPhone batteries need to be replaced more often.
Last we checked Apple replaces almost fifteen million batteries in the USA alone per year. Think about that. It's huge. Apple batteries are crap.
Not a single iPhone battery is even close in capacity to that of my free Android phone (which only retailed for about two hundred dollars MSRP).
That was 6 months ago and battery life is still
100%. The cost? $0. AppleCare+ took care of it.
Remember I said that the Apple trolls are ignorant? Remember?
Guess what? How did you get that AppleCare+ without paying for it?
No questions asked.
I have a question for you.
Since almost nobody on Android pays for any extra warranty, why do most
Apple iPhone owners pay for AppleCare+ when it's never needed?
Think about that.
Apple owners are so terrified of the horrendous repair costs, that they'll pay any amount of subscription fees just to not have to worry about them.
have owned iPhones and iPads since the iPhone 6s era. That's the only
battery replaced spanning 8 years and 6s, SE and 14 Pro versions.
The Apple iPads actually have decently sized batteries as it's only the iPhone that uses comically cheap chintzy batteries in terms of capacity.
Every time you replace a battery (and millions are replaced every year!), Apple is laughing at you AppleCare+ owners all the way to the bank.
I'll never go back. There is no Android Store 15 minutes away. My phone
and tablet get annual OS updates on the day they are released, and
regular feature and security updates too that.
The one thing you're right about is that there is no such thing as an "Android Store", which nobody on Android needs - but iPhone owners do.
I have plenty of Apple devices and when I take them to the Genius Bar, the "Genius" at the Apple Store asks me what a Decibel is when I tell him that
I teste the iPhone side-by-side with my free Samsung & the Wi-Fi stinks.
These "Genius" Bar employees don't know how things work in the real world
as you can't test Wi-Fi without knowing what a Decibel means.
All the Genius Bar employees do is test the phone for basic stuff (like
water penetration) and recommend a new iPhone if it fails their tests.
Remember, Apple lost the lawsuits for exactly that reason.
Even Apple didn't tell its Genius Bar employees that they purposefully lowered the life of the iPhone (which they paid a criminal fine for!).
Still... the free Apple Store Genius Bar (and free classes) are a nice
touch because Apple knows owners are petrified by the complexity of tech.
In article <vg30do$km$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>,
Andrews <andrews@spam.net> writes:
John Hill wrote on Fri, 1 Nov 2024 08:01:46 -0000 (UTC) :
You will never get trolls to buy in; otherwise they wouldn't be trolls.
You are correct that the Apple trolls like Alan Baker, Joerg Lorenz, Chris, >> Alan Browne, Jolly Roger, Hemidactylus, nospam, Lewis, et al., will always >> defend Apple to the death, no matter the truth - because... hmmm.. Why?
They'll always make inane excuses for why Apple has more zero-day exploits, >> or why Apple didn't have call recording, or why Apple doesn't allow
interoperability, or why Apple products don't have basic hardware, or why
Apple always is chintzy on basics such as RAM & battery capacity, etc.
Why do the Apple trolls inundate this newsgroup with those inane apologies? >>
I know why.
Do you?
Windows is excrement, always has been, always will be.
Linux for better or worse doesn't need people bashing other OS's to support it,
they can write their own damn code to support it or STFU.
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