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On Thu, 30 Jan 2025 18:04:17 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :

Just out of curiosity, how many Google apps do you have installed on
your iPhone?

My iPhone is an older model sans SIM card, so I'll say what's on some of my iPads, particularly what came, by default, on my 10th generation iPad,
which does NOT have an Apple ID on it, so everything on it is from Apple.

All I found by typing "Google" into the "App Library" search box was:
Google Voice

Since I learn by helping others, I picked up my older iPads, where the
oldest that is still working is my test vehicle for how many tens of
thousands of times Apple is asking me to log into their mainframes.

Every single day, all day, Apple incessantly nags me to log into their mainframe tracking servers - as an iOS device is a dumb terminal after all.

For that iOS 16.7.10 iPad (which is as up-to-date as Apple will allow),
every day Apple nags me in fundamental ways the Apple trolls don't know.
Apple ID Verification = Enter the password for x@iCloud.com in Settings

This is in addition to Apple constantly nagging me to:
Turn on Two-Factor Authentication
Finish Setting Up Your iPad {Touch ID}
Finish Setting Up Your iPad {Passcode}

The reason the Apple trolls know nothing about Apple products is it would
never occur to them to think on their own and NOT log into Apple's servers.

Anyway, I went to the App Store on that older iPad to search for "Google",
and it said the following apps' status was (in the order presented to me)

Google = Search with AI, Images & T... (this displayed twice) {UPDATE}
Google Chrome = {UPDATE}
Gmail = {iCloud}
Google Docs = {GET}
Google Drive = {GET}
Google Maps = {OPEN}
Google Sheets = {GET}
Google Slides = {GET}
Google Meet = {UPDATE}
Google Calendar: Get... = {UPDATE}
Google Photos: Backup &... = {GET}
YouTube: Watch, Listen... {UPDATE}
Google Earth = {UPDATE}
Google Translate = {GET}
Google Classroom = {GET}
Google Keep - Notes and... = {GET}
Google Chat = {GET}
Google Bundle = {VIEW}
Google Gemini = {GET}
(turned out to be 3rd-party) Forms for Google Docs = {GET}
Google News = {GET}
Google Authenticator = {GET}
Google Home = {GET}
Google One = {GET}
Google Assistant = {GET}
Google Tasks: Get Things... = {GET}
Google Play Books & Audi... = {GET}
Google Analytics = {GET}
Google Voice = {UPDATE}
Google Arts & Culture = {GET}
GBoard - The Google Key... = {GET}
(turned out to be 3rd-party) Contacts Sync: Google &... = {GET}
(turned out to be 3rd-party) Forms for Google Forms = {GET}
Google TV: Watch Movies... = {GET}
Google Admin = {GET}
Google Family Link = {GET}
Google Ads = {GET}
Google Fit: Activity Tracker = {GET}
Google Cloud = {GET}
Google Fi Wireless = {GET}
Google Opinion Rewards = {GET} ?
(turned out to be 3rd-party) gTasks for Google Tasks = {GET}
YouTube TV = {GET}
GFiber: The Google Fiber... = {GET}
(turned out to be 3rd-party) Template for Google Docs = {GET}
(turned out to be 3rd-party) Gome: remote for Google... = {GET}
Wear OS by Google = {GET}
Google Device Policy = {GET}
THIRD PARTY: Blogger for Google Blogs = {GET}
Lens: Translate & Image S... = {GET}
Google Cardboard = {GET}

Some of those may not be from Google, but, unlike the Apple trolls who
don't spend any time to reply to anyone, I checked the obvious ones.

In addition to those that the App Store found, separate searches found
these iOS apps which didn't show up in my App Store search for "Google".

PhotoScan by Google Photos:
This app helps you scan and digitize old photos.
Google Lens:
The standalone Google Lens app is also available in addition to
the Lens app that the App Store found in my search above on the iPad.
YouTube Studio:
This is for YouTube creators to manage their channels.
Google Play Games:
This is Google's app for gaming on mobile, including achievements
and leaderboards.
Google Wifi:
This app helps you manage your Google Wifi network.
Looker Mobile:
Used for accessing and analyzing data with Looker
(which is a business intelligence platform).
Google Play Services:
This is a background app that helps other Google apps function properly.

And then there are these apps halfway in between iOS & Android it seems:
Google Play Console:
This is for developers to manage their apps on the Google Play Store.
Android Switch:
This helps you transfer data from an Android phone to an iPhone.

In summary, to answer the OP's original question with accuracy, here are
the Google apps which I have on my older iPad that I use to test how long
it takes before Apple bricks it simply for not logging into Apple's
mothership mainframe tracking servers (which most people don't know about).

Google = Search with AI, Images & T... (this displayed twice) {UPDATE}
Google Chrome = {UPDATE}
Gmail = {iCloud}
Google Maps = {OPEN}
Google Meet = {UPDATE}
Google Calendar: Get... = {UPDATE}
YouTube: Watch, Listen... {UPDATE}
Google Earth = {UPDATE}
Google Bundle = {VIEW}

Note that only Google Maps is up to date (for some strange reason).
I would think this iOS list would be similar for Mac apps, is it not?

Hope this helps answer the question, where if you need more data, just ask
as I'm a purposefully helpful kindhearted person (except to Apple trolls).
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From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

On 2025-01-30 11:36, Marion wrote:

On Thu, 30 Jan 2025 18:04:17 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :

Just out of curiosity, how many Google apps do you have installed
on your iPhone?

My iPhone is an older model sans SIM card, so I'll say what's on
some of my iPads, particularly what came, by default, on my 10th
generation iPad, which does NOT have an Apple ID on it, so
everything on it is from Apple.

How is the presence of a SIM card relevant to this discussion?

All I found by typing "Google" into the "App Library" search box
was: Google Voice

Since I learn by helping others, I picked up my older iPads, where
the oldest that is still working is my test vehicle for how many
tens of thousands of times Apple is asking me to log into their
mainframes.

Or you picked an older iPad because you knew the result would be
different on your iPhone.

Every single day, all day, Apple incessantly nags me to log into
their mainframe tracking servers - as an iOS device is a dumb
terminal after all.

This is false.

For that iOS 16.7.10 iPad (which is as up-to-date as Apple will
allow), every day Apple nags me in fundamental ways the Apple trolls
don't know. Apple ID Verification = Enter the password for
x@iCloud.com in Settings

I know that you will be asked to log in.

I also know that iOS devices will continue to work properly (with some
obvious exceptions) regardless of whether you do so or not.

This is in addition to Apple constantly nagging me to: Turn on Two-
Factor Authentication Finish Setting Up Your iPad {Touch ID} Finish
Setting Up Your iPad {Passcode} The reason the Apple trolls know
nothing about Apple products is it would never occur to them to
think on their own and NOT log into Apple's servers.

And what would be the harm of logging in?

Anyway, I went to the App Store on that older iPad to search for
"Google", and it said the following apps' status was (in the order
presented to me)

Google = Search with AI, Images & T... (this displayed twice)
{UPDATE} Google Chrome = {UPDATE} Gmail = {iCloud} Google Docs =
{GET} Google Drive = {GET} Google Maps = {OPEN} Google Sheets =
{GET} Google Slides = {GET} Google Meet = {UPDATE} Google
Calendar: Get... = {UPDATE} Google Photos: Backup &... = {GET}
YouTube: Watch, Listen... {UPDATE} Google Earth = {UPDATE} Google
Translate = {GET} Google Classroom = {GET} Google Keep - Notes
and... = {GET} Google Chat = {GET} Google Bundle = {VIEW} Google
Gemini = {GET} (turned out to be 3rd-party) Forms for Google Docs =
{GET} Google News = {GET} Google Authenticator = {GET} Google Home =
{GET} Google One = {GET} Google Assistant = {GET} Google Tasks: Get
Things... = {GET} Google Play Books & Audi... = {GET} Google
Analytics = {GET} Google Voice = {UPDATE} Google Arts & Culture =
{GET} GBoard - The Google Key... = {GET} (turned out to be 3rd-
party) Contacts Sync: Google &... = {GET} (turned out to be 3rd-
party) Forms for Google Forms = {GET} Google TV: Watch Movies... =
{GET} Google Admin = {GET} Google Family Link = {GET} Google Ads =
{GET} Google Fit: Activity Tracker = {GET} Google Cloud = {GET}
Google Fi Wireless = {GET} Google Opinion Rewards = {GET} ? (turned
out to be 3rd-party) gTasks for Google Tasks = {GET} YouTube TV =
{GET} GFiber: The Google Fiber... = {GET} (turned out to be 3rd-
party) Template for Google Docs = {GET} (turned out to be 3rd-party)
Gome: remote for Google... = {GET} Wear OS by Google = {GET} Google
Device Policy = {GET} THIRD PARTY: Blogger for Google Blogs = {GET}
Lens: Translate & Image S... = {GET} Google Cardboard = {GET}

Some of those may not be from Google, but, unlike the Apple trolls
who don't spend any time to reply to anyone, I checked the obvious
ones.

In addition to those that the App Store found, separate searches
found these iOS apps which didn't show up in my App Store search for "Google".

PhotoScan by Google Photos: This app helps you scan and digitize
old photos. Google Lens: The standalone Google Lens app is also
available in addition to the Lens app that the App Store found in
my search above on the iPad. YouTube Studio: This is for YouTube
creators to manage their channels. Google Play Games: This is
Google's app for gaming on mobile, including achievements and
leaderboards. Google Wifi: This app helps you manage your Google
Wifi network. Looker Mobile: Used for accessing and analyzing data
with Looker (which is a business intelligence platform). Google Play Services: This is a background app that helps other Google apps
function properly. And then there are these apps halfway in between
iOS & Android it seems: Google Play Console: This is for developers
to manage their apps on the Google Play Store. Android Switch: This
helps you transfer data from an Android phone to an iPhone.

In summary, to answer the OP's original question with accuracy, here
are the Google apps which I have on my older iPad that I use to test
how long it takes before Apple bricks it simply for not logging into
Apple's mothership mainframe tracking servers (which most people
don't know about).

Apple doesn't brick iOS devices just because you don't log in.

Google = Search with AI, Images & T... (this displayed twice)
{UPDATE} Google Chrome = {UPDATE} Gmail = {iCloud} Google Maps =
{OPEN} Google Meet = {UPDATE} Google Calendar: Get... = {UPDATE}
YouTube: Watch, Listen... {UPDATE} Google Earth = {UPDATE} Google
Bundle = {VIEW}

"Gmail" does not EQUAL "{iCloud}"...

...and don't you know how to properly format lists such as you've just presented?

Note that only Google Maps is up to date (for some strange reason).

You updated it.

I would think this iOS list would be similar for Mac apps, is it
not?

"would it not?".

And what is that sentence even supposed to mean?

<meaningless chest-thumping snipped>
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From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

On Thu, 30 Jan 2025 18:04:17 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :

Gmail
Maps
Chrome
Drive
Calendar
Translate
YouTube
Voice
Docs
Authenticator

The thing is I use pretty much all of them on a consistent basis.

While most people (Android or iOS) never *test* the system, I've tested
both Android & iOS to find that, in some cases, it's *better* (in terms of privacy) to use the iOS apps below instead of using them on Android.

Gmail, Google Maps & Google Voice.

I didn't test most of the others - but those three apps, if you log into
them on Android, automatically *create* an account on the Android device.

Not so with iOS.

Of course, there is no privacy on iOS anyway because almost everyone has an account (for Apple) on their iOS devices - but the point I'm making here is
if you do NOT have a Google Account on your Android device (for privacy),
and yet, you *log into* any of those three apps, Google will *create* that account - whether or not you want it (with default permissions).

Those default permissions are a bitch because the default is to suck up all your contacts for Gmail for example, which you can only turn off *after*
Google has already sucked them up (during the account-creation process).

At least with my iOS devices, I can use the iOS GMail, Maps & Google Voice
apps *without* creating a Google Account on the Apple iOS device.

That means there's more privacy on iOS when you use those particular apps.

Bear in mind the Apple trolls know none of this because they are too afraid
to ever test anything - as all they do is exactly what Apple tells them to.

I would think the situation is similar for the Mac, is it not?
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