• Re: How to make mac OS Big Sur v11.6.4 to never sleep when usingbattery in a 2020 Intel MBP?

    From David Brooks@BDB@invalid.invalid to comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.software,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems on Sat Feb 19 17:39:53 2022
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    On 19/02/2022 13:10, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2022-02-19, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    In comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 18/02/2022 21:50, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2022-02-18, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    Hello.

    How do I tell mac OS Big Sur v11.6.4 to never sleep when using in a 2020 >>>>> Intel MBP? I only want to set this as a test since I'm trying to figure >>>>> out why this MBP crashes when waking up after sleeping once in a while. >>>>> So far on power AC connection, it never crashes with sleep disabled. >>>>> macOS Big Sur v11.6.(3&4) doesn't have an option to do that. I only can >>>>> disable its power nap and display sleep.

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

    There should be an option in System Preferences > Energy Saver called
    "Prevent your Mac from automatically sleeping when the display is off". >>>> Enabling that option will cause the computer to stay awake even when the >>>> display sleeps.

    If you want the display to never sleep, set the "Turn display off after" >>>> setting to "Never". If you do that, it's probably best to make sure you >>>> have a screen saver enabled too.

    Otherwise, as the saying goes, "There's an app for that". I've used
    Amphetamine for years to prevent sleep when certain apps or processes
    are running, and it's a nice tool to have handy for such a thing:

    <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/amphetamine/id937984704?mt=12>

    Interesting. I'd not happened across this before.

    Do you also recommend THIS facility?

    https://github.com/x74353/Amphetamine-Enhancer

    Thanks.

    Ooh. Interesting that Enhancer is from GitHub (not Apple's app store),
    but it requires the original Amphetamine from Apple's App Store. I
    wonder why not offer from Github too?

    That's explained on the same page under the "Why is a Separate App
    Needed?" heading... Try reading it. ; )

    Ha! ;-)

    Also, Redditors told me about caffeinate command in Terminal which works
    too and already included in macOS!

    Unfortunately, caffeinate doesn't work anymore with modern versions of
    macOS.

    I'm using macOS Monterey 12.2.1 and have installed Amphetamine from the
    Apple App Store. It appears to do what I'd thought it should!

    I've even got a nice message from the developer! https://ibb.co/sJzLyYY



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  • From Lewis@g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me to comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.software,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems on Sat Feb 19 18:58:42 2022
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.misc

    In message <RMGdnca19JIzqoz_nZ2dnUU7-aPNnZ2d@earthlink.com> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    In comp.sys.mac.software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2022-02-19, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    In comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2022-02-18, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    Hello.

    How do I tell mac OS Big Sur v11.6.4 to never sleep when using in a 2020
    Intel MBP? I only want to set this as a test since I'm trying to figure
    out why this MBP crashes when waking up after sleeping once in a while.
    So far on power AC connection, it never crashes with sleep disabled. >> >> > macOS Big Sur v11.6.(3&4) doesn't have an option to do that. I only can
    disable its power nap and display sleep.

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

    There should be an option in System Preferences > Energy Saver called
    "Prevent your Mac from automatically sleeping when the display is off". >> >> Enabling that option will cause the computer to stay awake even when the >> >> display sleeps.

    Display sleep is OK, but I was talking about system's sleep. This one I >> > don't want to sleep at all.

    Then you should be good to go.

    But https://i.imgur.com/1LmSzMK.png doesn't show an option to make
    system not sleep. It only has power nap and display off options. Also,
    macOS Big Sur doesn't have Energy Saver. I think it is called Battery.

    Because you CANNOT disable sleep when on battery, just like I already
    told you.

    You can only disable sleep when the laptop is on power.
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  • From Lewis@g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me to comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.software,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems on Sat Feb 19 19:05:06 2022
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.misc

    In message <j7c8ieFh482U2@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    Unfortunately, caffeinate doesn't work anymore with modern versions of
    macOS.

    Really? It's still in macOS 12.3, though I can't say I've ever used it.

    #v+
    $ which caffeinate
    /usr/bin/caffeinate
    $ uname -a
    Darwin Zephyrus.local 21.4.0 Darwin Kernel Version 21.4.0: Mon Feb 7 21:32:19 PST 2022; root:xnu-8020.100.429.131.1~2/RELEASE_ARM64_T8101 arm64
    #v-
    --
    I'm on the path, he thought. I don't have to know where it leads. I
    just have to follow.
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  • From Jolly Roger@jollyroger@pobox.com to comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.software,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems on Sun Feb 20 06:09:30 2022
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.misc

    On 2022-02-19, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    In comp.sys.mac.software Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
    In message <PfidnZ0mEvP1y43_nZ2dnUU7-KednZ2d@earthlink.com> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    In comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 18/02/2022 20:06, Ant wrote:
    Hello.

    How do I tell mac OS Big Sur v11.6.4 to never sleep when using
    in a 2020 Intel MBP? I only want to set this as a test since I'm
    trying to figure out why this MBP crashes when waking up after
    sleeping once in a while. So far on power AC connection, it
    never crashes with sleep disabled. macOS Big Sur v11.6.(3&4)
    doesn't have an option to do that. I only can disable its power
    nap and display sleep.

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

    My best advice is that you simply update to Monterey 12.2.1

    Works like a dream!

    It's a BIG change. Set it in motion just before you go to bed and
    it will be up and running once you awake!

    Is it still buggy?

    When was it "buggy"? During the beta, sure. Otherwise? No, it's been
    rock solid for tens of millions if not hundreds or millions of users.

    I'm currently on 12.3 beta, and it is also rock solid.

    Is it perfect? Of course not, nothing is. Does it crash, corrupt
    data, brick computers, or fail to work? No, it does not do any of
    these things.

    Maybe you should stop listening to idiot trolls?

    I see lots of bugs in public stable versions like in Big Sur, iOS v15,
    etc.

    By this flawed logic, you shouldn't use stable versions either.

    The mere existence of bugs does not equate to "something to be avoided
    at all costs". You seem to be incapable of making this distinction. No
    software on this planet is bug-free. Get that through your thick head.
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  • From Jolly Roger@jollyroger@pobox.com to comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.software,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems on Sun Feb 20 06:13:37 2022
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.misc

    On 2022-02-19, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    In comp.sys.mac.software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2022-02-19, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    In comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2022-02-18, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    Hello.

    How do I tell mac OS Big Sur v11.6.4 to never sleep when using
    in a 2020 Intel MBP? I only want to set this as a test since I'm
    trying to figure out why this MBP crashes when waking up after
    sleeping once in a while. So far on power AC connection, it
    never crashes with sleep disabled. macOS Big Sur v11.6.(3&4)
    doesn't have an option to do that. I only can disable its power
    nap and display sleep.

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

    There should be an option in System Preferences > Energy Saver
    called "Prevent your Mac from automatically sleeping when the
    display is off". Enabling that option will cause the computer to
    stay awake even when the display sleeps.

    Display sleep is OK, but I was talking about system's sleep. This
    one I don't want to sleep at all.

    Then you should be good to go.

    But https://i.imgur.com/1LmSzMK.png doesn't show an option to make
    system not sleep.

    Because, as Lewis already told you, you cannot disable sleep when
    battery power, since battery power is naturally limited. Do you not
    understand that battery power is not limitless?
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    JR
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  • From Lewis@g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me to comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.software,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems on Sun Feb 20 07:21:10 2022
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.misc

    In message <fcCdnSrpDY8eyYz_nZ2dnUU7-S2dnZ2d@earthlink.com> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    In comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
    In message <j7c8ieFh482U2@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    Unfortunately, caffeinate doesn't work anymore with modern versions of
    macOS.

    Really? It's still in macOS 12.3, though I can't say I've ever used it.

    #v+
    $ which caffeinate
    /usr/bin/caffeinate
    $ uname -a
    Darwin Zephyrus.local 21.4.0 Darwin Kernel Version 21.4.0: Mon Feb 7 21:32:19 PST 2022; root:xnu-8020.100.429.131.1~2/RELEASE_ARM64_T8101 arm64
    #v-

    I tried it, but it doesn't seem to work.

    Exactly HOW did you try it?

    Did you read the man page?
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    people what they need to get.'
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  • From Jolly Roger@jollyroger@pobox.com to comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.software,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems on Mon Feb 21 16:29:09 2022
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.misc

    On 2022-02-20, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    In comp.sys.mac.software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2022-02-19, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    In comp.sys.mac.software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2022-02-19, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

    Ooh. Interesting that Enhancer is from GitHub (not Apple's app
    store), but it requires the original Amphetamine from Apple's App
    Store. I wonder why not offer from Github too?

    That's explained on the same page under the "Why is a Separate App
    Needed?" heading... Try reading it. ; )

    I saw that, but why doesn't original Amphetamine have a downloadable
    version from GitHub instead of App Store?

    Because the developer wants it to be available on the App Store. Is
    there an actual problem here, or are you just trying to manufacture
    one out of thin air?>

    Yes, because I'm old school and still prefer to download outside of
    stores.

    Yes, you have an irrational aversion to "new" things people have used
    for years, like App Stores, iCloud, and so on - even at your own
    expense. The world is changing, Dino Ant. Keep up or go back into the
    ground. The world will continue to spin either way. ; )
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    JR
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