• Re: How to make mac OS Big Sur v11.6.4 to never sleep when using battery in a 2020 Intel MBP?

    From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.software,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems on Sat Feb 19 12:07:42 2022
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    In comp.sys.mac.software Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
    In message <PfidnZ0mEvP1y43_nZ2dnUU7-KednZ2d@earthlink.com> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    In comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 18/02/2022 20:06, Ant wrote:
    Hello.

    How do I tell mac OS Big Sur v11.6.4 to never sleep when using in a 2020 >> > Intel MBP? I only want to set this as a test since I'm trying to figure >> > out why this MBP crashes when waking up after sleeping once in a while. >> > So far on power AC connection, it never crashes with sleep disabled.
    macOS Big Sur v11.6.(3&4) doesn't have an option to do that. I only can >> > disable its power nap and display sleep.

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

    My best advice is that you simply update to Monterey 12.2.1

    Works like a dream!

    It's a BIG change. Set it in motion just before you go to bed and it
    will be up and running once you awake!

    Is it still buggy?

    When was it "buggy"? During the beta, sure. Otherwise? No, it's been
    rock solid for tens of millions if not hundreds or millions of users.

    I'm currently on 12.3 beta, and it is also rock solid.

    Is it perfect? Of course not, nothing is. Does it crash, corrupt data,
    brick computers, or fail to work? No, it does not do any of these
    things.

    Maybe you should stop listening to idiot trolls?

    I see lots of bugs in public stable versions like in Big Sur, iOS v15, etc.
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.software,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems on Sat Feb 19 12:09:32 2022
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    In comp.sys.mac.software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2022-02-19, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    In comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 18/02/2022 21:50, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2022-02-18, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    Hello.

    How do I tell mac OS Big Sur v11.6.4 to never sleep when using in a 2020
    Intel MBP? I only want to set this as a test since I'm trying to figure >> >> out why this MBP crashes when waking up after sleeping once in a while. >> >> So far on power AC connection, it never crashes with sleep disabled.
    macOS Big Sur v11.6.(3&4) doesn't have an option to do that. I only can >> >> disable its power nap and display sleep.

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

    There should be an option in System Preferences > Energy Saver called
    "Prevent your Mac from automatically sleeping when the display is off". >> > Enabling that option will cause the computer to stay awake even when the >> > display sleeps.

    If you want the display to never sleep, set the "Turn display off after" >> > setting to "Never". If you do that, it's probably best to make sure you >> > have a screen saver enabled too.

    Otherwise, as the saying goes, "There's an app for that". I've used
    Amphetamine for years to prevent sleep when certain apps or processes
    are running, and it's a nice tool to have handy for such a thing:

    <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/amphetamine/id937984704?mt=12>

    Interesting. I'd not happened across this before.

    Do you also recommend THIS facility?

    https://github.com/x74353/Amphetamine-Enhancer

    Thanks.

    Ooh. Interesting that Enhancer is from GitHub (not Apple's app store),
    but it requires the original Amphetamine from Apple's App Store. I
    wonder why not offer from Github too?

    That's explained on the same page under the "Why is a Separate App
    Needed?" heading... Try reading it. ; )

    I saw that, but why doesn't original Amphetamine have a downloadable
    version from GitHub instead of App Store?


    Also, Redditors told me about caffeinate command in Terminal which works too and already included in macOS!

    Unfortunately, caffeinate doesn't work anymore with modern versions of
    macOS.

    Dang it! Why did Apple even include it then?
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.software,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems on Sat Feb 19 12:32:14 2022
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    In comp.sys.mac.software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2022-02-19, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    In comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2022-02-18, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    Hello.

    How do I tell mac OS Big Sur v11.6.4 to never sleep when using in a 2020
    Intel MBP? I only want to set this as a test since I'm trying to figure >> > out why this MBP crashes when waking up after sleeping once in a while. >> > So far on power AC connection, it never crashes with sleep disabled.
    macOS Big Sur v11.6.(3&4) doesn't have an option to do that. I only can >> > disable its power nap and display sleep.

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

    There should be an option in System Preferences > Energy Saver called
    "Prevent your Mac from automatically sleeping when the display is off".
    Enabling that option will cause the computer to stay awake even when the >> display sleeps.

    Display sleep is OK, but I was talking about system's sleep. This one I don't want to sleep at all.

    Then you should be good to go.

    But https://i.imgur.com/1LmSzMK.png doesn't show an option to make
    system not sleep. It only has power nap and display off options. Also,
    macOS Big Sur doesn't have Energy Saver. I think it is called Battery.
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  • From Lewis@g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me to comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.software,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems on Sat Feb 19 18:56:37 2022
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    In message <Q6qdnTY3dIJzrIz_nZ2dnUU7-TOdnZ2d@earthlink.com> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    In comp.sys.mac.software Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
    In message <PfidnZ0mEvP1y43_nZ2dnUU7-KednZ2d@earthlink.com> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    In comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 18/02/2022 20:06, Ant wrote:
    Hello.

    How do I tell mac OS Big Sur v11.6.4 to never sleep when using in a 2020
    Intel MBP? I only want to set this as a test since I'm trying to figure >> >> > out why this MBP crashes when waking up after sleeping once in a while. >> >> > So far on power AC connection, it never crashes with sleep disabled.
    macOS Big Sur v11.6.(3&4) doesn't have an option to do that. I only can >> >> > disable its power nap and display sleep.

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

    My best advice is that you simply update to Monterey 12.2.1

    Works like a dream!

    It's a BIG change. Set it in motion just before you go to bed and it
    will be up and running once you awake!

    Is it still buggy?

    When was it "buggy"? During the beta, sure. Otherwise? No, it's been
    rock solid for tens of millions if not hundreds or millions of users.

    I'm currently on 12.3 beta, and it is also rock solid.

    Is it perfect? Of course not, nothing is. Does it crash, corrupt data,
    brick computers, or fail to work? No, it does not do any of these
    things.

    Maybe you should stop listening to idiot trolls?

    I see lots of bugs in public stable versions like in Big Sur, iOS v15, etc.

    Well then you should not use any software, because obviously you
    consider it all "buggy"
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.software,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems on Sat Feb 19 14:35:15 2022
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    In comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
    In message <j7c8ieFh482U2@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    Unfortunately, caffeinate doesn't work anymore with modern versions of macOS.

    Really? It's still in macOS 12.3, though I can't say I've ever used it.

    #v+
    $ which caffeinate
    /usr/bin/caffeinate
    $ uname -a
    Darwin Zephyrus.local 21.4.0 Darwin Kernel Version 21.4.0: Mon Feb 7 21:32:19 PST 2022; root:xnu-8020.100.429.131.1~2/RELEASE_ARM64_T8101 arm64
    #v-

    I tried it, but it doesn't seem to work.
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  • From Jolly Roger@jollyroger@pobox.com to comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.software,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems on Sun Feb 20 06:11:20 2022
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    On 2022-02-19, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    In comp.sys.mac.software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2022-02-19, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    In comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 18/02/2022 21:50, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2022-02-18, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    Hello.

    How do I tell mac OS Big Sur v11.6.4 to never sleep when using in a 2020
    Intel MBP? I only want to set this as a test since I'm trying to figure
    out why this MBP crashes when waking up after sleeping once in a while.
    So far on power AC connection, it never crashes with sleep disabled. >> >> >> macOS Big Sur v11.6.(3&4) doesn't have an option to do that. I only can
    disable its power nap and display sleep.

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

    There should be an option in System Preferences > Energy Saver called >> >> > "Prevent your Mac from automatically sleeping when the display is off". >> >> > Enabling that option will cause the computer to stay awake even when the
    display sleeps.

    If you want the display to never sleep, set the "Turn display off after"
    setting to "Never". If you do that, it's probably best to make sure you >> >> > have a screen saver enabled too.

    Otherwise, as the saying goes, "There's an app for that". I've used
    Amphetamine for years to prevent sleep when certain apps or processes >> >> > are running, and it's a nice tool to have handy for such a thing:

    <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/amphetamine/id937984704?mt=12>

    Interesting. I'd not happened across this before.

    Do you also recommend THIS facility?

    https://github.com/x74353/Amphetamine-Enhancer

    Thanks.

    Ooh. Interesting that Enhancer is from GitHub (not Apple's app store),
    but it requires the original Amphetamine from Apple's App Store. I
    wonder why not offer from Github too?

    That's explained on the same page under the "Why is a Separate App
    Needed?" heading... Try reading it. ; )

    I saw that, but why doesn't original Amphetamine have a downloadable
    version from GitHub instead of App Store?

    Because the developer wants it to be available on the App Store. Is
    there an actual problem here, or are you just trying to manufacture one
    out of thin air?>

    Also, Redditors told me about caffeinate command in Terminal which works >> > too and already included in macOS!

    Unfortunately, caffeinate doesn't work anymore with modern versions of
    macOS.

    Dang it! Why did Apple even include it then?

    *shrug* Who cares?
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  • From Lewis@g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me to comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.software,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems on Sun Feb 20 10:07:11 2022
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    In message <slrnt13qv6.2no3.g.kreme@zephyrus.local> Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
    In message <fcCdnSrpDY8eyYz_nZ2dnUU7-S2dnZ2d@earthlink.com> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    In comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
    In message <j7c8ieFh482U2@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    Unfortunately, caffeinate doesn't work anymore with modern versions of >>> > macOS.

    Really? It's still in macOS 12.3, though I can't say I've ever used it.

    #v+
    $ which caffeinate
    /usr/bin/caffeinate
    $ uname -a
    Darwin Zephyrus.local 21.4.0 Darwin Kernel Version 21.4.0: Mon Feb 7 21:32:19 PST 2022; root:xnu-8020.100.429.131.1~2/RELEASE_ARM64_T8101 arm64
    #v-

    I tried it, but it doesn't seem to work.

    Exactly HOW did you try it?

    Did you read the man page?

    I started up a vim session and then got the PID of it. Then I did

    caffeinate -w <PID>

    I left the laptop alone for 20m (double the 10m setting) and when I came
    back it had not gone to sleep.
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.software,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems on Sun Feb 20 17:00:05 2022
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    In comp.sys.mac.software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2022-02-19, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    In comp.sys.mac.software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2022-02-19, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    In comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> >> On 18/02/2022 21:50, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2022-02-18, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    Hello.

    How do I tell mac OS Big Sur v11.6.4 to never sleep when using in a 2020
    Intel MBP? I only want to set this as a test since I'm trying to figure
    out why this MBP crashes when waking up after sleeping once in a while.
    So far on power AC connection, it never crashes with sleep disabled. >> >> >> macOS Big Sur v11.6.(3&4) doesn't have an option to do that. I only can
    disable its power nap and display sleep.

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

    There should be an option in System Preferences > Energy Saver called >> >> > "Prevent your Mac from automatically sleeping when the display is off".
    Enabling that option will cause the computer to stay awake even when the
    display sleeps.

    If you want the display to never sleep, set the "Turn display off after"
    setting to "Never". If you do that, it's probably best to make sure you
    have a screen saver enabled too.

    Otherwise, as the saying goes, "There's an app for that". I've used >> >> > Amphetamine for years to prevent sleep when certain apps or processes >> >> > are running, and it's a nice tool to have handy for such a thing:

    <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/amphetamine/id937984704?mt=12>

    Interesting. I'd not happened across this before.

    Do you also recommend THIS facility?

    https://github.com/x74353/Amphetamine-Enhancer

    Thanks.

    Ooh. Interesting that Enhancer is from GitHub (not Apple's app store), >> > but it requires the original Amphetamine from Apple's App Store. I
    wonder why not offer from Github too?

    That's explained on the same page under the "Why is a Separate App
    Needed?" heading... Try reading it. ; )

    I saw that, but why doesn't original Amphetamine have a downloadable version from GitHub instead of App Store?

    Because the developer wants it to be available on the App Store. Is
    there an actual problem here, or are you just trying to manufacture one
    out of thin air?>

    Yes, because I'm old school and still prefer to download outside of stores.
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.software,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems on Sun Feb 20 17:08:38 2022
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    In comp.sys.mac.software Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
    In message <fcCdnSrpDY8eyYz_nZ2dnUU7-S2dnZ2d@earthlink.com> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    In comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
    In message <j7c8ieFh482U2@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    Unfortunately, caffeinate doesn't work anymore with modern versions of >> > macOS.

    Really? It's still in macOS 12.3, though I can't say I've ever used it.

    #v+
    $ which caffeinate
    /usr/bin/caffeinate
    $ uname -a
    Darwin Zephyrus.local 21.4.0 Darwin Kernel Version 21.4.0: Mon Feb 7 21:32:19 PST 2022; root:xnu-8020.100.429.131.1~2/RELEASE_ARM64_T8101 arm64
    #v-

    I tried it, but it doesn't seem to work.

    Exactly HOW did you try it?

    Did you read the man page?

    I ran caffeinate (without any parameters) in Terminal as shown in its man: "DESCRIPTION
    caffeinate creates assertions to alter system sleep behavior. If no
    assertion flags are specified, caffeinate creates an assertion to prevent
    idle sleep..."

    Basically, I don't want MBP to sleep.
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