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On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 23:42:57 +0000, Tyrone wrote :

This requires NO additional software to be installed on anything. All of this functionality is native to Windows, Linux and Unix (iOS/iPadOS).

Heh heh heh...
I laughed when I saw this, as I thought it was repartee done apropos.

I'm beginning to think Tyrone isn't nospam, as I doubt nospam could come up with any suggestion that actually stood any chance of actually working.

Let's compare the 2 tutorials the way the Apple trolls compare everything.

Tutorial: How to send files between platforms using SMB
Words: 765
Characters: 4,507 (This count includes spaces and punctuation)
Paragraphs: 20

Tutorial: How to send files between platforms using LocalSend
Words: 407
Characters: 2,335 (including spaces and punctuation)
Paragraphs: 27

Using the method all the Apple trolls have used for decades to assess the complexity of a subject, my tutorial, at 407 words, is ~50% less complex.
:)

First, to avoid ANY confusion. This method does all of the copying to/from Windows on the iOS device.

Since I'm always sensible and reasonable, I don't disagree at all with the method that Tyrone is espousing. (What I had disagreed with were the lies.)

You also need an account with a password on Windows. You should already have this anyway. This does NOT have to be Microsoft account. A local account is fine. Name can be Files and password can be anything you want.

The SMB method won't work for me (simply because I don't live in the
slums), but it will work for people who have a password on their account.

Done and done. Easy, nothing to install. Copying from iOS to Windows is just as easy. Copy from On My iPhone/iPad and paste to whatever folder on the Windows drive.

Your tutorial is nice but the users here need to know that images and
videos (in the iOS DCIM directory) are handled differently than most files.

It's just a few more steps to get other formats into "Files", which is documented over here in a Tutorial that is still about 50% less complex by
the measure that Apple trolls have used for decades to assess complexity.
<https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=86405&group=alt.comp.os.windows-10#86405>

Apple troll complexity score:
Words: 414
Characters: 2,470 (including spaces and punctuation)
Paragraphs: 31

Note that this is all standard SMB networking stuff. SMB networking is how Windows/Linux/Unix share files/folders with each other on a network.

Decades ago, I set up CAPS (for the mac), CIFs/SMB (for Windows) and Samba
(for SunOS & Solaris) to get the marketing & engineering teams to share
docs. This was before "the web" existed as a thing in corporate worlds.

The Apple resource fork and data fork aside, I was able to do it so I'm
well aware of SMB networking. I agree it works for a lot of people even
today (although the Apple trolls always claim Apple has to be courageous to remove stuff that works - like the aux jack - simply because it works).

Is Columbia AppleTalk Protocol still a thing?

Also note that you can share any folder(s) individually, instead of sharing the entire drive. You could share only your Windows User folder, for example.
Or you could share a different data drive. I have 4 drives shared here: C, D,
E and F. I have MANY years of photos, PDFs, music and video files, etc. You are in complete control of this.

The sandbox. iOS has that sandbox. Don't forget the iOS sandbox Tyrone.

I do this all the time using iOS 17.7.2 and 18.4. I also have an iPhone 8 Plus
with 16.7.10. Works fine there too. I have also tested Windows 7, 8.1, 11 and Server 2012 R2.

Since I'm always sensibly logical, I agree with you that SMB can work for
many people under many circumstances, and has worked for decades, Tyrone.

Both methods have their advantages and disadvantages (e.g., LocalSend is
used by, I think it was Elijah, for Android-to-Android, while wasbit used
it because his Windows version was old - as I recall).

Me?

I'll use it because I don't have a password on my Windows box (because I
don't live in the slums, that's why); but I recognize most people do.

Thanks for adding value to this newsgroup. Much appreciated.
--
Thank God you didn't suggest that iTunes which Jolly Roger insisted we use.
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Marion wrote:

I'm beginning to think Tyrone isn't nospam, as I doubt nospam could
come up with any suggestion that actually stood any chance of
actually working.

I don't remember nospam ever writing anything more than a paragraph or
two. He certainly wouldn't have written out this tutorial and would
instead have provided a link to an Apple document.
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On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 10:09:56 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :

I'm beginning to think Tyrone isn't nospam, as I doubt nospam could
come up with any suggestion that actually stood any chance of
actually working.

I don't remember nospam ever writing anything more than a paragraph or
two. He certainly wouldn't have written out this tutorial and would
instead have provided a link to an Apple document.

I have to agree with you on that badgolferman, as nospam, being a classic
Apple troll, was never purposefully helpful, as his only intent, as with
all the Apple trolls, was simply to defend Apple's honor, to the death.

Tyrone is defending Apple's honor to the death also, but at least he wrote
up the SMB steps, and, make note, nospam never used modern iOS equipment.

The good news, for everyone, is when we subtract the brazen lies by the
Apple trolls, we have two methods to get the files onto an iOS device.

And that's good.
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On 2025-04-14 03:09, badgolferman wrote:

Marion wrote:

I'm beginning to think Tyrone isn't nospam, as I doubt nospam could
come up with any suggestion that actually stood any chance of
actually working.

I don't remember nospam ever writing anything more than a paragraph or
two. He certainly wouldn't have written out this tutorial and would
instead have provided a link to an Apple document.

I love how you ignored this:

"The SMB method won't work for me (simply because I don't live in the
slums), but it will work for people who have a password on their account."

Or do you agree that everyone who uses passwords on their accounts must
"live in the slums"?
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Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

On 2025-04-14 03:09, badgolferman wrote:

Marion wrote:

I'm beginning to think Tyrone isn't nospam, as I doubt nospam could
come up with any suggestion that actually stood any chance of
actually working.

I don't remember nospam ever writing anything more than a paragraph or
two. He certainly wouldn't have written out this tutorial and would
instead have provided a link to an Apple document.

I love how you ignored this:

"The SMB method won't work for me (simply because I don't live in the
slums), but it will work for people who have a password on their account."

Or do you agree that everyone who uses passwords on their accounts must "live in the slums"?

Maybe the place he lives is a palace compared to the rest of us.

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On 2025-04-14 13:17, badgolferman wrote:

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

On 2025-04-14 03:09, badgolferman wrote:

Marion wrote:

I'm beginning to think Tyrone isn't nospam, as I doubt nospam could
come up with any suggestion that actually stood any chance of
actually working.

I don't remember nospam ever writing anything more than a paragraph or
two. He certainly wouldn't have written out this tutorial and would
instead have provided a link to an Apple document.

I love how you ignored this:

"The SMB method won't work for me (simply because I don't live in the
slums), but it will work for people who have a password on their account." >>
Or do you agree that everyone who uses passwords on their accounts must
"live in the slums"?

Maybe the place he lives is a palace compared to the rest of us.

Huh.

Why not just come right out and call him on his bullshit?
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On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 20:17:32 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :

Maybe the place he lives is a palace compared to the rest of us.

You should know by now that it's a dig at the Apple culture.

At the risk of explaining too much about Apple's strategy for people to comprehend in one bite, Apple's fundamental strategy with iOS is they
designed it as a dumb terminal which *requires* constantly (every single
day!) logging into the Cupertino matrix in order for iOS to do anything
useful.

This is important.

Every moment of every day, for their entire lives, Apple users are logging
into Apple's servers, just to get the most basic of functionality on iOS.

Hell... these Apple owners log into the Apple Cupertino servers pretty much
on every breath they take - they're *that* connected to Apple's matrix.

Since Apple has billions of people constantly logging into its servers,
Apple is fantastically *desperate* to have people put on silly gimmicks to "protect" their system from their wife, kids, and friends of the family.

Why do you think Apple makes a huge (bullshit) deal bout BIOMETRICS!!!!!!!! Apple essentially, tells all their customers that they live in the slums.

Apple teaches every one of their customers that everyone around them is a threat. That their wife is out to get them. Their kids too. And friends.

Hence Apple owners live in constant fear for their lives, every moment.
As if they live in the slums.

As for me, my cars are parked outside and I don't even lock the doors.
My house is unlocked. My gate open. I live in the Santa Cruz Mountains.

I don't live in the slums. So I don't fear everyone around me.

Apple owners fear every single person around them.
Which is why I joke that Apple owners all live in the projects.

The slums.
Otherwise, why are they so afraid of their own wife & kids & friends?

All Apple owners live in the slums. That's what Apple teaches them.
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to be feared as a dire thread - you MUST protect iOS from even your wife!
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Using <news:vtk13q$17t3$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>, Marion wrote:

Maybe the place he lives is a palace compared to the rest of us.

You should know by now that it's a dig at the Apple culture.

Is there any other operating system which requires a login to do basic
things like populating the device with typical apps that people use.

Or is it just Apple?

Because if any other operating system requires that login for the device to
do basic things like install apps, then that other OS maker thinks its
owners live in those slums too.

Or is it just Apple whose owners are told that they all live in the slums?
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On 2025-04-14 15:10, Marion wrote:

On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 20:17:32 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :

Maybe the place he lives is a palace compared to the rest of us.

You should know by now that it's a dig at the Apple culture.

At the risk of explaining too much about Apple's strategy for people to comprehend in one bite, Apple's fundamental strategy with iOS is they designed it as a dumb terminal which *requires* constantly (every single day!) logging into the Cupertino matrix in order for iOS to do anything useful.

Utterly false.

This is important.

Every moment of every day, for their entire lives, Apple users are logging into Apple's servers, just to get the most basic of functionality on iOS.

False.

Hell... these Apple owners log into the Apple Cupertino servers pretty much on every breath they take - they're *that* connected to Apple's matrix.

False.

Since Apple has billions of people constantly logging into its servers,
Apple is fantastically *desperate* to have people put on silly gimmicks to "protect" their system from their wife, kids, and friends of the family.

Why do you think Apple makes a huge (bullshit) deal bout BIOMETRICS!!!!!!!! Apple essentially, tells all their customers that they live in the slums.

How is Apple doing that?

Apple teaches every one of their customers that everyone around them is a threat. That their wife is out to get them. Their kids too. And friends.

False.

Not everyone, but a phone without a passcode can be stolen and if there
is any private information on it at all, that information is at risk.

Hence Apple owners live in constant fear for their lives, every moment.
As if they live in the slums.

As for me, my cars are parked outside and I don't even lock the doors.
My house is unlocked. My gate open. I live in the Santa Cruz Mountains.

I don't live in the slums. So I don't fear everyone around me.

Apple owners fear every single person around them.
Which is why I joke that Apple owners all live in the projects.

The slums.
Otherwise, why are they so afraid of their own wife & kids & friends?

All Apple owners live in the slums. That's what Apple teaches them.

You're a horrible person.

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Alan wrote:

On 2025-04-14 15:10, Marion wrote:

On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 20:17:32 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :

Maybe the place he lives is a palace compared to the rest of us.

You should know by now that it's a dig at the Apple culture.

At the risk of explaining too much about Apple's strategy for people to
comprehend in one bite, Apple's fundamental strategy with iOS is they
designed it as a dumb terminal which *requires* constantly (every single
day!) logging into the Cupertino matrix in order for iOS to do anything
useful.

Utterly false.

This is important.

Every moment of every day, for their entire lives, Apple users are
logging
into Apple's servers, just to get the most basic of functionality on iOS.

False.

Hell... these Apple owners log into the Apple Cupertino servers pretty
much
on every breath they take - they're *that* connected to Apple's matrix.

False.

Since Apple has billions of people constantly logging into its servers,
Apple is fantastically *desperate* to have people put on silly
gimmicks to
"protect" their system from their wife, kids, and friends of the family.

Why do you think Apple makes a huge (bullshit) deal bout
BIOMETRICS!!!!!!!!
Apple essentially, tells all their customers that they live in the slums.

How is Apple doing that?

Apple teaches every one of their customers that everyone around them is a
threat. That their wife is out to get them. Their kids too. And friends.

False.

Not everyone, but a phone without a passcode can be stolen and if there
is any private information on it at all, that information is at risk.

Hence Apple owners live in constant fear for their lives, every moment.
As if they live in the slums.

As for me, my cars are parked outside and I don't even lock the doors.
My house is unlocked. My gate open. I live in the Santa Cruz Mountains.

I don't live in the slums. So I don't fear everyone around me.

Apple owners fear every single person around them.
Which is why I joke that Apple owners all live in the projects.

The slums.
Otherwise, why are they so afraid of their own wife & kids & friends?

All Apple owners live in the slums. That's what Apple teaches them.

You're a horrible person.

Preach it Brother !!


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