• Re: My week with Linux: I'm dumping Windows for Ubuntu to see how it goes

    From Victor@victorheyne@notreal.org to comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Wed May 21 01:39:55 2025
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    On Wed, 21 May 2025 04:50:29 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote:

    On Tue, 20 May 2025 19:50:59 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote :

    Samsung, for example (and Google) are on record (due to UK regulations
    requiring a written promise of support) for 7 years of full support while >>> Apple has a measly five years of full support.

    That must be a recent thing because Android phones, in particular,
    seldom had more than two years of support before they were abandoned.
    This was the case with smartphones when I decided to get my iPhone 13
    anyway. Apple offered five which looks poor compared to seven, but much
    better than two.

    Most people think Apple's support is the best, and yet, it's the worst.
    Why is that?

    The answer is simple.
    Marketing.

    But how many people are aware that astoundingly huge swathes of iOS
    released code couldn't possibly *ever* have been subjected to QA tests?
    <https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2019/08/a-very-deep-dive-into-ios-exploit.html>

    Given it was proven Apple has never tested their released code, it's no wonder mere teens constantly find huge holes in Apple's products.

    Why do you think iOS has the most zero-day holes of any mobile OS?
    Instead of spending money on testing - Apple spends it on marketing.

    And people line up outside the Apple store as a direct result of that.

    Anyone who is intelligent has always known that Apple has always had the absolute worst hotfix support of all common consumer operating systems.

    Which is why, for example, iOS is vastly more exploited than is Android.
    <https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog>

    Take the case of hotfix processes, where Apple only in iOS 16 finally added the concept of a hotfix. Before that, there was no such entity.
    <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201224>
    <https://support.apple.com/en-ph/guide/security/sec87fc038c2/web>

    Or, take the case of number of simultaneous releases supported by Apple.
    <https://screenrant.com/apple-product-security-update-lifespan/>
    <https://hothardware.com/news/apple-admits-only-fully-patches-security-flaws-in-latest-os-releases>
    <https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/>

    As for the number of years of promised full support, iOS is the worst.
    *Apple finally confirms how long it will support iPhones and it's less than Samsung and Google*
    <https://www.androidauthority.com/iphone-software-support-commitment-3449135/>

    Apple has always had the worst hotfix support in the industry.
    But stupid people only believe the marketing. They don't know any facts.

    Do you think Apple is gonna tell them the facts?

    Worse, iOS has never had a "hotfix" process until the RSRs of iOS 16.
    Can you believe that? No hotfixes? No wonder it's the most exploited OS! >>>
    Surprisingly, it turns out Apple was forced to admit last year that they >>> have *never* in their entire history *ever* fully supported more than one >>> release at a time.

    And yet everyone else fully supports multiple releases simultaneously.
    When you know the facts, you realize why iOS is the most exploited.

    The marketing doesn't ever mention the facts.
    But all most people know are the marketing.

    So they "think" the support is the best - when it's actually the worst.

    That is definitely something to consider when it will be time to replace
    this phone. For now, it works well even three years after I got it.

    It was only recently that the UK forced all the mobile phone manufacturers to state, in writing, how long they will promise full support.

    *Apple Commits to at Least Five Years of iPhone Security Updates*
    "Apple has revealed its commitment to a minimum of five years of
    iPhone security software updates from the date a device is
    launched, thanks to a new legal requirement in the United Kingdom"
    <https://www.macrumors.com/2024/06/06/apple-iphone-security-updates-five-year-minimum/>

    Just as Apple has the *worst* batteries in the industry, and just as Apple has the *worst* RAM in the industry, it turns out that Apple has the worst hotfix support in terms of many metrics - one of which is length of time.

    *Apple will provide a minimum of five years of iPhone security updates*
    <https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/6/24172843/apple-iphone-minimum-five-years-security-updates>

    *Apple Reveals Its iPhone Gets at Least 5 Years of Security Updates*
    <https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/apple-reveals-its-iphone-gets-at-least-five-years-of-security-updates/>

    *Apple commits to 5 years of security updates for the iPhone, but that's not the whole story*
    <https://mashable.com/article/apple-iphone-security-updates-5-years>

    *Apple says your new iPhone will get at least five years of security updates*
    <https://www.imore.com/iphone/apple-says-your-new-iphone-will-get-at-least-five-years-of-security-updates-but-history-suggests-itll-be-significantly-longer>

    *Apple commits to minimum of five years of iPhone security software updates from the date a device is launched
    <https://appleworld.today/apple-commits-to-minimum-of-five-years-of-iphone-security-software-updates-from-the-date-a-device-is-launched/>

    Google (Pixel) and Samsung (Galaxy S series) are on record for 7 years.
    *Samsung phones backed with seven years of full support*
    <https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/samsung-extends-android-and-security-updates-to-7-years/>

    *Google Pixel backed with seven years of full support*
    <https://www.tomsguide.com/opinion/google-pixel-8-software-updates>

    Note that most people are so incredibly stupid that they don't know this. They "think" Apple fully supports phones longer - when that's simply not true.

    Note that Google & Samsung support MULTIPLE SIMULTANEOUS RELEASES
    in those seven years (just as Microsoft does). But not Apple.

    Most of the Apple trolls will tell you they got a patch for an old
    phone, but that's like Microsoft issuing a patch for Windows XP.

    It happens. But it's not even close to "full hotfix support".
    What's no longer shocking to me is that most Apple owners are
    so incredibly ignorant they don't know the difference between
    a. An occasional patch (which all the operating system vendors do)
    b. versus a patch to every known bug in the operating system

    Apple marketing caters to incredibly ignorant people who are so
    desperate to ditch their old device that they wait outside in
    long lines just for the privilege of trading it in every few years.

    Notice how I said that. Each person has their old phone, which
    could be a year or two old - which they can't wait to get rid of.

    They only believe what they're told to believe.
    And they never question it.

    What we've learned during the rollout of the COVID vaccine is that being
    skeptical and asking questions is "anti-science."

    Well, I happen to be well educated in microbiology so I'm well
    aware of 'what' the risks are and whether or not the thing they
    called a 'vaccine' fit the definition of their own terms or not.

    On that point, did you see news released yesterday or today?

    *F.D.A. Poised to Restrict Access to Covid Vaccines*
    <https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/20/health/fda-covid-vaccines.html>
    "Agency leaders said there was evidence to justify approval
    only for older people and those with medical conditions.
    Many others may not be able to get the shots."

    While I got the shots (since I'm an octogenarian), I knew full
    well that it was decidedly NOT a vaccine - even as they call it that.

    I studied the coronaviruses way back in the sixties and seventies.
    They haven't changed since then. There are only 7 known to infect man.

    May be all that is true. But Apple makes more money than any of them!
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  • From sms@scharf.steven@geemail.com to comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Fri May 30 18:32:33 2025
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    <snip>

    “Linux is only free if your time has no value.” ─ Author Unknown

    Seriously, try using WINE to run Windows-only applications. When it does
    work at all, it's painfully slow.

    You can buy a copy of Windows 11 Pro for under $5.
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  • From -hh@recscuba_google@huntzinger.com to comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Sat May 31 16:50:35 2025
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    On 5/30/25 21:32, sms wrote:
    Linux is only free if your time has no value

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  • From -hh@recscuba_google@huntzinger.com to comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Sat May 31 16:51:34 2025
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    On 5/30/25 21:32, sms wrote:
    <snip>

    “Linux is only free if your time has no value.” ─ Author Unknown

    Might have been Jamie Zawinski, from May 1995, in response to
    Gabriel N. Schaffer:
    : >
    : > (except Linux, but that's FREE).
    :
    : This is such a cruel myth. Linux is only free if your time has no value.

    (found on COLA)


    -hh
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  • From Tyrone@none@none.none to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Sun Jun 1 14:02:56 2025
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    On May 30, 2025 at 9:32:33 PM EDT, "sms" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

    <snip>

    “Linux is only free if your time has no value.” ─ Author Unknown

    Seriously, try using WINE to run Windows-only applications. When it does
    work at all, it's painfully slow.

    You can buy a copy of Windows 11 Pro for under $5.

    I bought Windows 11 Pro 2 years ago for $18. I run it (on the rare occasions that I want to) in a VM on this M2 MacBook Pro. That the price is still dropping tells you all you need to know about demand for Windows.
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