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I currently have my Mac set to automatically show/hide the dock, since
that frees up a few centimeters of screen space for other tasks.

Problem is, there's a handful of applications which I use which involve
a horizontal scroll bar. Unfortunately, when I try to drag the
horizontal scroll bar in these apps, half the time the dock reappears
and I end up inadvertently rearranging items on the dock rather than
scrolling as intended. [My dock is on the bottom of the screen].

Is there a global setting that can be invoked which delays the dock from showing up for a second or two when the mouse hits the bottom of the screen?

[n.b. I am still using Monterey, but I assume any such setting would
probably be available on all Macs].

André
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On 2025-05-28 01:33:29 +0000, André G. Isaak said:

I currently have my Mac set to automatically show/hide the dock, since
that frees up a few centimeters of screen space for other tasks.

Problem is, there's a handful of applications which I use which involve
a horizontal scroll bar. Unfortunately, when I try to drag the
horizontal scroll bar in these apps, half the time the dock reappears
and I end up inadvertently rearranging items on the dock rather than scrolling as intended. [My dock is on the bottom of the screen].

Is there a global setting that can be invoked which delays the dock
from showing up for a second or two when the mouse hits the bottom of
the screen?

[n.b. I am still using Monterey, but I assume any such setting would probably be available on all Macs].

André

I'm not sure if they still work in Monterey, but try these Terminal commands:

defaults write com.apple.Dock autohide-delay -float NUM
killall Dock

and /or

defaults write com.apple.Dock autohide-time-modifier -float NUM
killall Dock

replacing NUM with how many seconds you want the delay to be (e.g.
0.25, 0.5, 1, 1.5, 2, etc.)

One of the 'hidden settings' utility apps like Tinker Tool, Onyx, etc.
may be able to do the same thing.

BUT, it's probably a better idea to simply make the window's vertical
size to be slightly smaller. Making the Dock delay bigger will just
annoy you when you do want the Dock to reappear.

The other option is to move the Dock to be on the left or right of the
screen, instead of at the bottom.



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On 28. May 2025 at 03:33:29 CEST, "André G. Isaak" <agisaak@gm.invalid>
wrote:

[My dock is on the bottom of the screen]

Just set it to the side?
(Mine is on the right side of the screen)
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On 28.05.25 08:00, Your Name wrote:

The other option is to move the Dock to be on the left or right of the screen, instead of at the bottom.

*FACK*. Move the Dock to the left side is the obvious solution. It also
allows to use the up-down scroll bar which is afaik always on the right
side of the application window.
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On 2025-05-28 00:00, Your Name wrote:

On 2025-05-28 01:33:29 +0000, André G. Isaak said:

I currently have my Mac set to automatically show/hide the dock, since
that frees up a few centimeters of screen space for other tasks.

Problem is, there's a handful of applications which I use which
involve a horizontal scroll bar. Unfortunately, when I try to drag the
horizontal scroll bar in these apps, half the time the dock reappears
and I end up inadvertently rearranging items on the dock rather than
scrolling as intended. [My dock is on the bottom of the screen].

Is there a global setting that can be invoked which delays the dock
from showing up for a second or two when the mouse hits the bottom of
the screen?

[n.b. I am still using Monterey, but I assume any such setting would
probably be available on all Macs].

André

I'm not sure if they still work in Monterey, but try these Terminal commands:

  defaults write com.apple.Dock autohide-delay -float NUM
  killall Dock

That doesn't appear to work, so it might be restricted to more recent
versions of the system. I may see if I can get used to having the dock
on the left as others have suggested. So far I'm not that fond of this suggestion since the dock icons are significantly smaller, but maybe
I'll get used to it.

Also, I'm glad to see there are still people on this group talking about
macOS as opposed to iOS, which is really off topic.

André
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On 2025-05-29 00:05:05 +0000, André G. Isaak said:

On 2025-05-28 00:00, Your Name wrote:

On 2025-05-28 01:33:29 +0000, André G. Isaak said:

I currently have my Mac set to automatically show/hide the dock, since
that frees up a few centimeters of screen space for other tasks.

Problem is, there's a handful of applications which I use which involve >>> a horizontal scroll bar. Unfortunately, when I try to drag the
horizontal scroll bar in these apps, half the time the dock reappears
and I end up inadvertently rearranging items on the dock rather than
scrolling as intended. [My dock is on the bottom of the screen].

Is there a global setting that can be invoked which delays the dock
from showing up for a second or two when the mouse hits the bottom of
the screen?

[n.b. I am still using Monterey, but I assume any such setting would
probably be available on all Macs].

André

I'm not sure if they still work in Monterey, but try these Terminal commands:

  defaults write com.apple.Dock autohide-delay -float NUM
  killall Dock

That doesn't appear to work, so it might be restricted to more recent versions of the system. I may see if I can get used to having the dock
on the left as others have suggested. So far I'm not that fond of this suggestion since the dock icons are significantly smaller, but maybe
I'll get used to it.

Also, I'm glad to see there are still people on this group talking
about macOS as opposed to iOS, which is really off topic.

André

There is a third possible Terminal command:

defaults write com.apple.dock autohide -float NUM
killall Dock

You may or may not also need to put "-bool true" in those commands,
just after the setting name.
e.g. defaults write com.apple.dock autohide-delay -bool true -float NUM
defaults write com.apple.dock autohide-time-modifier -bool true -float NUM
defaults write com.apple.dock autohide -bool true -float NUM
killall Dock

Someone on the StackExchange topic says autohide-time-modfier works in Monterey. <https://superuser.com/questions/222715/is-it-possible-to-change-the-delay-before-the-dock-appears-in-os-x-on-mac>


Unfortunately Apple does keep changing such things in each new release
and update. :-(


You should still be able to increase the size of the Dock (and hence
the icons) when it is on the sides ... although, if you have lots of
icons in the dock, then it of course has to be smaller to fit them all
in.

You could always get a display screen that rotates to portrait, then
the sides would be longer then the bottom edge. ;-)


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