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Tom Elam wrote:

You lost everything because Apple claimed it was for your own good.
And yet, you gained nothing.

Please list something that the average mobile phone user will find
every-day useful on Android that you cannot do in IOS.

Remember, I'm an expert in both platforms; you don't know either.
There are so many things Android does iOS can't, it would take a long time.

SO I'm gonna summarize, since the main thing iOS can't do is anything you
like without logging into an Internet server (e.g., to isntall apps).

Hell, you can't even back up apps on iOS, Tom.
Seriously.

You haven't been able to back up apps on iOS for many years now.
You don't even know that, Tom. Because you know nothing about iOS.

If the app or version you want is not on the Apple App Store, then you
can't back it up because you can only load the IPA from the App Store.

On Android, not only can you easily back up the exact version of every app
you install, it happens *automatically* (by default!) on Android devices.

Yup. Every single app you've ever installed on Android is saved on the
device. Yet Google never bothers to advertise that fantastic feature.

Much like big tobacco & big soda, Apple's marketing is the finest in the
world, so every feature on iOS that's useful is highly advertised, even as
all those features (except for one that anyone can find) are also on
Android.

Most of the features that people love about Apple are due to the fact that
the iOS device is essentially a dumb terminal that logs into Cupertino
servers to do the things that people love about the iOS device.

Guess what?

If Android users log into an Internet server, they can do all those things
too, which is the point.

The one critical feature that Android users can do that cannot successfully
be done on iOS is use the phone fully &* completely WITHOUT logging into Internet servers. My phone has a thousand apps, for example, on 64GB, which nobody (but Apple trolls) disputes on the Android newsgroup, because they
trust me and they've seen the proof.

And not a single one of those apps requires an Internet server to work.

Note: We're not talking about email or VOIP, which do require the Internet
to work. We're talking basics like installing apps from the Play Store.

Hell, I use a system-wide firewall on Android, which is impossible on iOS.
I use GPS spoofing too. Also impossible on iOS.
And I can torrent. Also impossible on iOS.
I can plug my phone into Windows & copy files both ways.
Without crutches like the deprecated iTunes, you can't do that with iOS.

Interestingly Android supports true split-screen multitasking on all modern devices, while iOS only allows it on iPads (via Split View and Slide Over). iPhones do not have native split-screen multitasking, though they offer
limited alternatives like Picture-in-Picture and quick app switching.
<https://www.makeuseof.com/use-app-pair-for-split-screen-on-android/>

Yet, on Android, I use Wi-Fi and Cellular graphical signal strength
debugging all the time, although cellular debugging can only be done per
SIM card (i.e., one carrier at a time) while Wi-Fi is everything nearby.

That's impossible on iOS, even as Snit saw a graph (which happened to be megabits per second) & declared that megabits are decibels in his mind.
*Snit video purportedly detailing iOS showing Wi-Fi dBm over time*
<https://youtu.be/7QaABa6DFIo>

The security of iOS is so bad, it can't run the Tor Browser on it.
<https://onionbrowser.com/faqs>
"What's the difference between browsing with Tor on iOS
and browsing with Tor on my computer? The primary difference is
that Apple requires we use the WebKit browser component they provide.
With Tor Browser on Desktop and Android, the browser is built upon
Mozilla's Firefox / Gecko component, which offers greater control
and more reliability when it comes to implementing proxying
and anti-tracking techniques."

See also the Tor browser FAQ:
<https://support.torproject.org/tormobile/tormobile-3/>
"Can I run Tor Browser on an iOS device? Apple requires all
browsers on iOS to use something called Webkit,
which prevents any iOS browser from having the same privacy
protections as Tor Browser."

Skyica. Muntashirakon. NewPipe. Aurora. FairEmail. NetGuard. Nova.
Even intelligent people can't put any of that functionality on iOS.

Apple iOS won't allow you to change the default App Launcher. Apple iOS
won't allow you to change your App Store. You can't add a termux-like command-line either. Nor can you even back up an IPA on iOS even though
Apple trolls like Jolly Roger swear that they can do that - they can't.

I own iOS. I own Android. I use both every day.
There's no comparison.

At best, iOS is a toy OS.
It's fine for people who don't do anything.

Just like stock Android is fine for people who don't do anything.

The point is iOS can't do half of what Android does, and Apple tells you
that it's because they wanted "security" but there is no security on iOS.

Why not?

HINT: Apple lied about why they locked up iOS.

Note I've added "Brock/Snit" to my killfile, even as I had to do it
manually since it's my own newsreader that I wrote which uses gVIM/Telnet.
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On Nov 12, 2025 at 12:52:17 PM MST, "Marion" wrote <10f2ohh$2r0v$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>:

Tom Elam wrote:

You lost everything because Apple claimed it was for your own good.
And yet, you gained nothing.

Please list something that the average mobile phone user will find
every-day useful on Android that you cannot do in IOS.

Remember, I'm an expert in both platforms;

Self proclaims.

you don't know either.

According to you.

You avoid evidence and just say you are an expert. That is pathetic.

There are so many things Android does iOS can't, it would take a long time.

Some are just benefits. Sure. Some are to benefit security on iOS, something you say you care about but clearly know little about (even less than I do).
And of course there are these iOS benefits:

* Longer software support: Apple devices typically get major iOS updates for 5-6 years, while most Android phones get around 3-4 years (though Google and Samsung are catching up).

* Faster and more consistent updates: Updates roll out to all compatible devices at once, not delayed by carriers or manufacturers.

* Tighter ecosystem integration: Seamless handoff between iPhone, iPad, Mac, and Apple Watch -- like Continuity, AirDrop, Handoff, and Universal Clipboard.

* Privacy controls: App Tracking Transparency and on-device Siri/Face ID data processing are stronger than most Android equivalents.

* Optimized performance: Because Apple designs both the hardware (A-series chips) and software, iPhones often feel smoother and stay fast longer.

* Better third-party app optimization: Developers usually optimize for iOS first, meaning apps often look cleaner and run more consistently.

* Longer battery efficiency over time: iPhones generally manage power better, even as they age, due to tighter system-level control.

* Security model: App Store review process and iOS sandboxing make malware far less common. This is something you simply cannot accept. Oh well.

* Resale value: iPhones hold resale value much better than most Android
phones.

* Ease of use and consistency: Fewer hardware variations mean a more uniform, less fragmented experience.

* Integrated services: iMessage, FaceTime, AirPlay, and iCloud all work effortlessly without third-party setups.

Some of these, of course, are double edged swords. There are absolutely benefits to Android, too. But your bias is EXTREME.

SO I'm gonna summarize, since the main thing iOS can't do is anything you like without logging into an Internet server (e.g., to isntall apps).

Hell, you can't even back up apps on iOS, Tom.
Seriously.

You haven't been able to back up apps on iOS for many years now.
You don't even know that, Tom. Because you know nothing about iOS.

Your psychic abilities are amazing... or would be if they were accurate. On iOS, apps come from the App store. If they are removed from the store your "backup" is gone. If they are not you always have them available.

If the app or version you want is not on the Apple App Store, then you
can't back it up because you can only load the IPA from the App Store.

And you think this is specialized knowledge? LOL!

...

HINT: Apple lied about why they locked up iOS.

Note I've added "Brock/Snit" to my killfile, even as I had to do it
manually since it's my own newsreader that I wrote which uses gVIM/Telnet.

Here is what made you run -- direct proof your claims were contrary to facts:

1. https://www.getastra.com/blog/security-audit/malware-statistics/ -- Android devices are 50x more likely to be infected than iOS devices, showing the starkest difference in malware prevalence.

2. https://www.comparitech.com/blog/vpn-privacy/20-current-android-malware-stats/ -- Android malware attacks reached 33.3 million in 2024; iOS attacks remain very rare.

3. https://securelist.com/mobile-threat-report-2024/115494/ -- Android is the main target for mobile malware, with Trojan banker attacks up 196%; iOS sees far fewer infections.

4. https://46745145.fs1.hubspotusercontent-na1.net/hubfs/46745145/MAPS_MTD/REPORT/GEN/Global%20Mobile%20Threat%20Report%202024%20FINAL%20(1).pdf
-- Android's ecosystem is more broadly exposed to attacks than iOS.

5. https://www.kaspersky.com/resource-center/threats/android-vs-iphone-mobile-security
-- Android faces far higher malware volume; both require updates and safe practices.

6. https://www.qualysec.com/ios-vs-android-security/ -- iOS is more secure by default; Android needs careful management to match safety.

7. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/370667917_Comparative_Study_of_Information_Security_in_Mobile_Operating_Systems_Android_and_Apple_iOS
-- iOS has superior information security architecture versus Android.

8. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/312279414_Security_Evaluation_of_IOS_and_Android/fulltext/587b977308ae4445c06422df/Security-Evaluation-of-IOS-and-Android.pdf
-- iOS offers better enterprise security; Android requires careful management.

9. https://www.renemayrhofer.com/courses/android-security/selected-paper/2023/Android_and_iOS_Platform_Security-A_Comparison.pdf
-- iOS shows stronger hardware and system-level security in 2023-2024.

10. https://www.approov.io/hubfs/White%20Paper/WP-Comparison%20of%20Apple%2C%20Android%20and%20Huawei%20Mobile%20App%20Security%20v1.0%20FINAL(2).pdf
-- iOS apps are more secure by default due to App Store restrictions.

11. https://www.getastra.com/blog/mobile/ios-vs-android-security/ -- iOS's controlled ecosystem reduces malware exposure; Android's openness increases
the attack surface.

12. https://www.corrata.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Mobile-Security-Whitepaper-Final-Nov-20112017.pdf
-- iOS is less susceptible to mass malware; Android's openness increases exposure.

13. https://www.lookout.com/threat-intelligence/report/q1-2024-mobile-landscape-threat-report
-- Enterprise spyware targets iOS even though Android dominates overall
malware volume.

14. https://www.lookout.com/threat-intelligence/report/q2-2024-mobile-landscape-threat-report
-- Mobile phishing and malicious web content are rising; iOS is increasingly targeted in enterprise.

15. https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2024/12/26/mobile-devices-attacks/ -- iOS faced higher phishing exposure (18.4%) than Android (11.4%), despite Android's higher malware volume.

16. https://www.cybersecurity-insiders.com/vulnerability-comparison-android-vs-ios-in-the-face-of-cyber-attacks/
-- Android is more exposed to vulnerabilities, but iOS still faces targeted attacks.

17. https://arxiv.org/abs/2108.04754 -- Android devices are significantly more prone to persistent malware infections than iOS.

18. https://arxiv.org/pdf/2105.12613 -- iOS offers stronger protection against unauthorized access; Android needs extra management.

19. https://arxiv.org/pdf/2109.13722 -- Both OSes have privacy/data collection issues; Android apps are more likely to leak sensitive information.

20. https://petsymposium.org/popets/2024/popets-2024-0047.pdf -- iOS privacy labels are slightly more effective than Android in helping users understand data collection.

21. https://www.promon.io/security-news/android-vs-ios-security -- Security depends more on user behavior, patching, and configuration than OS alone.

22. https://www.norton.com/blog/mobile/android-vs-ios-which-is-more-secure -- iOS generally offers stronger default security; user behavior is the main risk on both platforms.

23. https://www.verizon.com/business/resources/Tc13/reports/2024-mobile-security-index.pdf
-- Android is riskier in enterprise without strong management; mobile devices remain key breach vectors.

24. https://lp.zimperium.com/hubfs/Reports/2025%20Global%20Mobile%20Threat%20Report.pdf
-- Sideloaded apps and older Android devices greatly increase enterprise risk; iOS risk comes mostly from targeted attacks.
--
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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On 2025-11-12 11:52, Marion wrote:

Tom Elam wrote:

You lost everything because Apple claimed it was for your own good.
And yet, you gained nothing.

Please list something that the average mobile phone user will find
every-day useful on Android that you cannot do in IOS.

Remember, I'm an expert in both platforms; you don't know either.
There are so many things Android does iOS can't, it would take a long time.

Remember you CLAIM to be an expert...

...but your obvious ignorance on certain matters refutes your claim.

SO I'm gonna summarize, since the main thing iOS can't do is anything you like without logging into an Internet server (e.g., to isntall apps).

But it CAN install apps, agreed?

Hell, you can't even back up apps on iOS, Tom.
Seriously.

Because you don't NEED to.

You haven't been able to back up apps on iOS for many years now.
You don't even know that, Tom. Because you know nothing about iOS.

Because you don't NEED to.

If the app or version you want is not on the Apple App Store, then you
can't back it up because you can only load the IPA from the App Store.

And does that actually happen in a manner that affects "average mobile
phone users"?

On Android, not only can you easily back up the exact version of every app you install, it happens *automatically* (by default!) on Android devices.

Making your backups take longer and use more space...

Yup. Every single app you've ever installed on Android is saved on the device. Yet Google never bothers to advertise that fantastic feature.

Because maybe they're smart enough to know it doesn't matter to "average mobile phone users", hmmm?

Much like big tobacco & big soda, Apple's marketing is the finest in the world, so every feature on iOS that's useful is highly advertised, even as all those features (except for one that anyone can find) are also on
Android.

So you're saying that Apple is far smarter than Android/Google.

Got it.

Most of the features that people love about Apple are due to the fact that the iOS device is essentially a dumb terminal that logs into Cupertino servers to do the things that people love about the iOS device.

This remains completely false, and proves you are not the "expert" you
claim to be.

Guess what?

If Android users log into an Internet server, they can do all those things too, which is the point.

The one critical feature that Android users can do that cannot successfully be done on iOS is use the phone fully &* completely WITHOUT logging into Internet servers. My phone has a thousand apps, for example, on 64GB, which nobody (but Apple trolls) disputes on the Android newsgroup, because they trust me and they've seen the proof.

And not a single one of those apps requires an Internet server to work.

Nor do the vast majority of iOS apps.

Note: We're not talking about email or VOIP, which do require the Internet
to work. We're talking basics like installing apps from the Play Store.

"Installing" an app isn't USING an app.

Hell, I use a system-wide firewall on Android, which is impossible on iOS.

Because it already has one.

I use GPS spoofing too. Also impossible on iOS.
And I can torrent. Also impossible on iOS.
I can plug my phone into Windows & copy files both ways.
Without crutches like the deprecated iTunes, you can't do that with iOS.

And your back to that canard, despite it being shown to you in laborious detail that SMB file sharing makes that possible on iOS.

Interestingly Android supports true split-screen multitasking on all modern devices, while iOS only allows it on iPads (via Split View and Slide Over). iPhones do not have native split-screen multitasking, though they offer limited alternatives like Picture-in-Picture and quick app switching.
<https://www.makeuseof.com/use-app-pair-for-split-screen-on-android/>

So a choice and not a technical limitation.

Yet, on Android, I use Wi-Fi and Cellular graphical signal strength
debugging all the time, although cellular debugging can only be done per
SIM card (i.e., one carrier at a time) while Wi-Fi is everything nearby.

Not something that "average mobile phone users" really EVER do.

That's impossible on iOS, even as Snit saw a graph (which happened to be megabits per second) & declared that megabits are decibels in his mind.
*Snit video purportedly detailing iOS showing Wi-Fi dBm over time*
<https://youtu.be/7QaABa6DFIo>

The security of iOS is so bad, it can't run the Tor Browser on it.

The inability of iOS to run an app says nothing about the security of
the PLATFORM.

An actual "expert" would understand that.

<https://onionbrowser.com/faqs>
"What's the difference between browsing with Tor on iOS
and browsing with Tor on my computer? The primary difference is
that Apple requires we use the WebKit browser component they provide.
With Tor Browser on Desktop and Android, the browser is built upon
Mozilla's Firefox / Gecko component, which offers greater control
and more reliability when it comes to implementing proxying
and anti-tracking techniques."
See also the Tor browser FAQ:>

<https://support.torproject.org/tormobile/tormobile-3/>

"Can I run Tor Browser on an iOS device? Apple requires all
browsers on iOS to use something called Webkit,
which prevents any iOS browser from having the same privacy
protections as Tor Browser."

So you use "Onion Browser" from the same people.

Skyica. Muntashirakon. NewPipe. Aurora. FairEmail. NetGuard. Nova.
Even intelligent people can't put any of that functionality on iOS.

Skyica: an app for finding Android apps won't run on iOS.

This is what you lead off with?

Muntashirakon: same point.

NewPipe: an app for pirating content.

Aurora: another app store.. ...FOR ANDROID.

FairEmail: finally! An actual app a person would use (for something
other than piracy).

For iOS: ProtonMail.

Apple iOS won't allow you to change the default App Launcher. Apple iOS
won't allow you to change your App Store. You can't add a termux-like command-line either. Nor can you even back up an IPA on iOS even though Apple trolls like Jolly Roger swear that they can do that - they can't.

You already mentioned that.

I own iOS. I own Android. I use both every day.
There's no comparison.

At best, iOS is a toy OS.
It's fine for people who don't do anything.

Just like stock Android is fine for people who don't do anything.

The point is iOS can't do half of what Android does, and Apple tells you
that it's because they wanted "security" but there is no security on iOS.

Why not?

HINT: Apple lied about why they locked up iOS.

Note I've added "Brock/Snit" to my killfile, even as I had to do it
manually since it's my own newsreader that I wrote which uses gVIM/Telnet.

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