• Resurrecting dead floppies with alcohol

    From scole@vintageapplemac@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Sat Sep 14 07:27:42 2024
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    Well, it's been a few months since I posted to the group asking how to
    restore "dead" floppies, and one tip* that was given was to use
    isopropyl alcohol.

    I've not had these old Macs booted since I read that message, been
    hellish busy, but I just fired up my Performa 5320, applied some
    alcohol to my Civilization floppies that had hitherto resolutely
    refused to be read, et voila! The discs all mounted!

    It took a few attempts, actually, maybe 4 or 5 applications of alocohol
    to each disk before each finally mounted. I was able to back-up each
    floppy to hard disk, too.

    A great result! I intend to work through my entire collection of
    big-box floppy games. :)

    I have ditched a lot of disks over the years that refused to mount.
    Damn shame, as if I knew this trick I could probably have salvaged a
    lot of them. PD, newsletter/user groups stuff, magazine cover disks,
    all lost, like tears in rain. :(

    Anyway, massive gratitude to Mr Finnigan for the tip!

    *I cannot reply to the post where the tip was given, as it seems
    Eternal September has suffered a catastrophic failure and lost all
    messages older than a couple of months. I hope Ray Banana gets them
    back!
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  • From Jolly Roger@jollyroger@pobox.com to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Sat Sep 14 16:55:14 2024
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    On 2024-09-14, scole <vintageapplemac@gmail.com> wrote:
    Well, it's been a few months since I posted to the group asking how to restore "dead" floppies, and one tip* that was given was to use
    isopropyl alcohol.

    I've not had these old Macs booted since I read that message, been
    hellish busy, but I just fired up my Performa 5320, applied some
    alcohol to my Civilization floppies that had hitherto resolutely
    refused to be read, et voila! The discs all mounted!

    It took a few attempts, actually, maybe 4 or 5 applications of alocohol
    to each disk before each finally mounted. I was able to back-up each
    floppy to hard disk, too.

    A great result! I intend to work through my entire collection of
    big-box floppy games. :)

    I have ditched a lot of disks over the years that refused to mount.
    Damn shame, as if I knew this trick I could probably have salvaged a
    lot of them. PD, newsletter/user groups stuff, magazine cover disks,
    all lost, like tears in rain. :(

    Anyway, massive gratitude to Mr Finnigan for the tip!

    *I cannot reply to the post where the tip was given, as it seems
    Eternal September has suffered a catastrophic failure and lost all
    messages older than a couple of months. I hope Ray Banana gets them
    back!

    Thanks for reporting back. 🙂👍🏼
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  • From Sebastian P.@info@cornica.org to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Sun Sep 15 08:39:58 2024
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    In article <140920240727420035%vintageapplemac@gmail.com>,
    scole <vintageapplemac@gmail.com> wrote:

    Well, it's been a few months since I posted to the group asking how to restore "dead" floppies, and one tip* that was given was to use
    isopropyl alcohol.

    I've not had these old Macs booted since I read that message, been
    hellish busy, but I just fired up my Performa 5320, applied some
    alcohol to my Civilization floppies that had hitherto resolutely
    refused to be read, et voila! The discs all mounted!

    It took a few attempts, actually, maybe 4 or 5 applications of alocohol
    to each disk before each finally mounted. I was able to back-up each
    floppy to hard disk, too.

    A great result! I intend to work through my entire collection of
    big-box floppy games. :)

    I have ditched a lot of disks over the years that refused to mount.
    Damn shame, as if I knew this trick I could probably have salvaged a
    lot of them. PD, newsletter/user groups stuff, magazine cover disks,
    all lost, like tears in rain. :(

    Anyway, massive gratitude to Mr Finnigan for the tip!

    *I cannot reply to the post where the tip was given, as it seems
    Eternal September has suffered a catastrophic failure and lost all
    messages older than a couple of months. I hope Ray Banana gets them
    back!

    That's great news! And sorry to hear about the other floppies you threw away - I
    also tended to do that, though mostly with old blanks that initialization. Will
    try the isopropyl alcohol next time. Since they're not making them anymore, I feel really bad about throwing floppies away ... even though I have enough to last until I'm 100 I think :-)

    Could you please take a moment and check which of your floppies have been preserved on macintoshgarden.org already? You might have something not archived
    yet that we run in danger of losing forever otherwise ...
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  • From scole@vintageapplemac@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Sun Sep 29 08:14:59 2024
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    In article <info-F634A2.08395815092024@news.individual.de>, Sebastian
    P. <info@cornica.org> wrote:

    In article <140920240727420035%vintageapplemac@gmail.com>,
    scole <vintageapplemac@gmail.com> wrote:

    Well, it's been a few months since I posted to the group asking how to restore "dead" floppies, and one tip* that was given was to use
    isopropyl alcohol.

    I've not had these old Macs booted since I read that message, been
    hellish busy, but I just fired up my Performa 5320, applied some
    alcohol to my Civilization floppies that had hitherto resolutely
    refused to be read, et voila! The discs all mounted!

    It took a few attempts, actually, maybe 4 or 5 applications of alocohol
    to each disk before each finally mounted. I was able to back-up each
    floppy to hard disk, too.

    A great result! I intend to work through my entire collection of
    big-box floppy games. :)

    I have ditched a lot of disks over the years that refused to mount.
    Damn shame, as if I knew this trick I could probably have salvaged a
    lot of them. PD, newsletter/user groups stuff, magazine cover disks,
    all lost, like tears in rain. :(

    Anyway, massive gratitude to Mr Finnigan for the tip!

    *I cannot reply to the post where the tip was given, as it seems
    Eternal September has suffered a catastrophic failure and lost all
    messages older than a couple of months. I hope Ray Banana gets them
    back!

    That's great news! And sorry to hear about the other floppies you threw away - I
    also tended to do that, though mostly with old blanks that initialization. Will
    try the isopropyl alcohol next time. Since they're not making them anymore, I
    feel really bad about throwing floppies away ... even though I have enough to
    last until I'm 100 I think :-)

    Yeah, it is causing me genuine pain to think about the *hundreds* of
    disks I threw away over the last decade or so... All my years of
    eBaying for vintage Macs had generated piles upon piles of floppies,
    and on a few occaisions I went through stacks of them, keeping/backing
    up the good ones and ditching those that wouldn't mount, assuming they
    were knackered. I could have saved a lot of them, it seems... :(

    Could you please take a moment and check which of your floppies have been preserved on macintoshgarden.org already? You might have something not archived
    yet that we run in danger of losing forever otherwise ...

    I generally upload any software I salvage to my own site,
    vintageapplemac.com, and I know that from time to time folks from the
    Garden find stuff there and back it up. I'm going to try and get in the
    habit of dumping stuff to archive.org but I can't see me also putting
    things into the Garden religously. Feel free to have a trawl on my
    site, anything you see that might not be in the Garden, snag it. I
    uploaded some Electronic Young Telegraph floppies earlier this year, I
    wrote a blog about it; couldn't do anything with the files as am
    missing the main EYT programme floppy. :(
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  • From Mr. Business@mrbusiness@aaathats3as.com to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Sun Mar 30 16:23:10 2025
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    in article 140920240727420035%vintageapplemac@gmail.com, scole at vintageapplemac@gmail.com wrote on 9/14/24 12:27 AM:

    Well, it's been a few months since I posted to the group asking how to restore
    "dead" floppies, and one tip* that was given was to use isopropyl alcohol.

    Sorry to reply so late, but does this involve swabbing the disk with alcohol
    or somehow soaking its dust catcher? I happen to have the opposite problem: almost all of my disks are now unwritable!

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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Mon Mar 31 12:24:18 2025
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    On 2025-03-30 22:23:10 +0000, Mr. Business said:
    in article 140920240727420035%vintageapplemac@gmail.com, scole at vintageapplemac@gmail.com wrote on 9/14/24 12:27 AM:

    Well, it's been a few months since I posted to the group asking how to
    restore "dead" floppies, and one tip* that was given was to use
    isopropyl alcohol.

    Sorry to reply so late, but does this involve swabbing the disk with alcohol or somehow soaking its dust catcher? I happen to have the opposite problem: almost all of my disks are now unwritable!

    More likely that's the drive. Perhaps the drive heads need cleaning
    and/or re-alignment. If it's an external drive then simply it might not
    be getting enough power (especially USB-powered drives - a different
    USB port and/or double USB cable might help).

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