• Any IE/Netscape Friendly Sites?

    From Atesh Hicks@atesh@quackland.com to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Fri May 9 00:10:13 2025
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    Hi all,

    I was just wondering if you know any interesting websites that are
    accessible with a vintage browser?

    The only ones I know of:

    - system7today.com
    - 68k.news
    - frogfind.com

    (Though at the moment 68k/frogfind is down, I think?)

    I am aware of ProtoWeb but I like original creations with up-to-date-ish content compared to resurrections of archived stuff =)
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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Fri May 9 18:12:29 2025
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    On 2025-05-09 04:10:13 +0000, Atesh Hicks said:

    Hi all,

    I was just wondering if you know any interesting websites that are
    accessible with a vintage browser?

    The only ones I know of:

    - system7today.com
    - 68k.news
    - frogfind.com

    (Though at the moment 68k/frogfind is down, I think?)

    I am aware of ProtoWeb but I like original creations with up-to-date-ish content compared to resurrections of archived stuff =)

    I think MacintoshGarden.org should work okay in old web browsers.

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  • From Knezzen@contact@unixfiles.org to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Fri May 9 13:06:15 2025
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    In article <f655849d07be0df713871cc5d728be49ff4783b3@i2pn2.org>,
    "Atesh Hicks" <atesh@quackland.com> wrote:

    Hi all,

    I was just wondering if you know any interesting websites that are
    accessible with a vintage browser?

    The only ones I know of:

    - system7today.com
    - 68k.news
    - frogfind.com

    (Though at the moment 68k/frogfind is down, I think?)

    I am aware of ProtoWeb but I like original creations with up-to-date-ish content compared to resurrections of archived stuff =)

    Those are good ones (I'm a bit partial since I run System 7 Today)

    Some sites that come to mind:
    macos9lives.com
    macintosh.garden (yes, that's the URL for the new public beta)
    cornica.org
    cheats.macintosh.garden

    Have you tried Gopher, btw?
    It's much more suited for older machines compared to the WWW.

    Check out this nice article on Mac OS 9 Lives about it: http://macos9lives.com/mac-os9-and-the-internet

    You can use it with Netscape based browsers, MacLynx and the purpose
    made Gopher clients (like TurboGopher which you can find here: http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/turbogopher)
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  • From Sebastian P.@info@cornica.org to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Fri May 9 17:58:18 2025
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    In article <f655849d07be0df713871cc5d728be49ff4783b3@i2pn2.org>,
    "Atesh Hicks" <atesh@quackland.com> wrote:

    Hi all,

    I was just wondering if you know any interesting websites that are
    accessible with a vintage browser?

    The only ones I know of:

    - system7today.com
    - 68k.news
    - frogfind.com

    (Though at the moment 68k/frogfind is down, I think?)

    I am aware of ProtoWeb but I like original creations with up-to-date-ish content compared to resurrections of archived stuff =)

    wiby.org is a search engine for the uncommercial web aka the web 25 years ago. Make sure to follow the "settings" link first and check the "Filter HTTPS" to get only sites accessible via http as result. Happy exploring :-)

    By the way, do you happen to be the Atesh who used to frequent Mac Domain around
    the mid 2000s? If yes, you've just made my day!
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  • From liz@liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Fri May 9 18:52:51 2025
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    Atesh Hicks <atesh@quackland.com> wrote:

    Hi all,

    I was just wondering if you know any interesting websites that are
    accessible with a vintage browser?

    The only ones I know of:

    - system7today.com
    - 68k.news
    - frogfind.com

    (Though at the moment 68k/frogfind is down, I think?)

    I am aware of ProtoWeb but I like original creations with up-to-date-ish content compared to resurrections of archived stuff =)

    My own website <http://www.poppyrecords.co.uk> works on most browsers
    and was written with Claris Homepage in OS 8.6 Others I have written include:
    http://www.dorandsomcanal.org/
    http://www.tedkendall.com/index.php
    http://www.juliaamos.co.uk/index.php http://www.poppyrecords.co.uk/WOECLPGS/index.php

    (Some of these use PHP to generate diary lists.)

    I use to run several other websites but one-by-one they have been taken
    off me and "Improved" so they no longer work on older browsers (or any
    browsers at all, in one case.).
    --
    ~ Liz Tuddenham ~
    (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
    www.poppyrecords.co.uk
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  • From vintageapplemac@vintageapplemac@gmail.com (scole) to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Sat May 10 06:24:33 2025
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    In article <contact-412148.13061509052025@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Knezzen <contact@unixfiles.org> wrote:

    In article <f655849d07be0df713871cc5d728be49ff4783b3@i2pn2.org>,
    "Atesh Hicks" <atesh@quackland.com> wrote:
    <snip>

    Have you tried Gopher, btw?
    It's much more suited for older machines compared to the WWW.

    Check out this nice article on Mac OS 9 Lives about it: http://macos9lives.com/mac-os9-and-the-internet

    Thanks for the links, especially that "and the internet" one, I have just
    gone and got some new bookmarks from it! :)

    I have used Gopher on Macintosh before, about a decade ago, but I think I
    will put that top of my list for things to do on this computer.

    Here, using the wiby search engine, I just found http://www.inthe90s.com/index.shtml and that is exactly my jam! Web 1.0!
    Love it!
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  • From Sebastian P.@info@cornica.org to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Sat May 10 16:12:21 2025
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    In article <1rc2xcg.1lcgwet1gyk5dsN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid>,
    liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:

    My own website <http://www.poppyrecords.co.uk> works on most browsers
    and was written with Claris Homepage in OS 8.6 Others I have written include:
    http://www.dorandsomcanal.org/
    http://www.tedkendall.com/index.php
    http://www.juliaamos.co.uk/index.php http://www.poppyrecords.co.uk/WOECLPGS/index.php

    (Some of these use PHP to generate diary lists.)

    I use to run several other websites but one-by-one they have been taken
    off me and "Improved" so they no longer work on older browsers (or any browsers at all, in one case.).

    Liz, those are very nice websites! Information-dense yet visually appealling and
    displaying fine in almost every browser no matter the age. A true achievement in
    compatibility!

    I couldn't help but submit their URLs for indexing on wiby.org after I discovered they aren't listed there yet. Perhaps a few more visitors will come out of that. Your von Manstein's trial record is amazing btw. Never thought such
    a thing existed as a record!
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  • From liz@liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Fri May 16 08:11:04 2025
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    Sebastian P. <info@cornica.org> wrote:

    In article <1rc2xcg.1lcgwet1gyk5dsN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid>,
    liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:

    My own website <http://www.poppyrecords.co.uk> works on most browsers
    and was written with Claris Homepage in OS 8.6 Others I have written include:
    http://www.dorandsomcanal.org/
    http://www.tedkendall.com/index.php
    http://www.juliaamos.co.uk/index.php http://www.poppyrecords.co.uk/WOECLPGS/index.php

    (Some of these use PHP to generate diary lists.)

    I use to run several other websites but one-by-one they have been taken
    off me and "Improved" so they no longer work on older browsers (or any browsers at all, in one case.).

    Liz, those are very nice websites! Information-dense yet visually
    appealling and displaying fine in almost every browser no matter the age.
    A true achievement in compatibility!

    One basic rule is: "Don't Use Javascript".

    If you start including Javascript and trying to micro-manage the layout,
    you are bound to come across browsers that can't read that particular
    flavour. Almost all of the functions of an information-only website
    can be done in plain HTML with some PHP on the server ...and there are
    ways around those that can't.

    For writing PHP I find BBEdit 4.1 does everything I need (in about 30 Mb
    of memory) with Fetch 3.0.3 for uploading it.


    I couldn't help but submit their URLs for indexing on wiby.org after I discovered they aren't listed there yet. Perhaps a few more visitors will come out of that. Your von Manstein's trial record is amazing btw. Never thought such a thing existed as a record!

    It's a long story (more than I can say on a public webpage).
    --
    ~ Liz Tuddenham ~
    (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
    www.poppyrecords.co.uk
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