• Ben Bacarisse 2022 objection finally fully addressed --- Version 4.0

    From olcott@NoOne@NoWhere.com to comp.theory,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++ on Wed Dec 10 16:53:01 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.theory

    On 10/14/2022 7:44 PM, Ben Bacarisse wrote:

    I don't think that is the shell game.
    PO really /has/ an H (it's trivial to
    do for this one case) that correctly
    determines that P(P) *would* never stop
    running *unless* aborted.

    He knows and accepts that P(P) actually does stop.
    The wrong answer is justified by what would
    happen if H (and hence a different P) where not
    what they actually are.


    When the halting problem requires a halt decider
    to report on the behavior of a Turing machine this
    is always a category error.

    The corrected halting problem requires a Turing
    machine decider to report in the behavior that
    its finite string input specifies.

    This analysis is in the C programming language so
    that it is 100% concrete without any key details
    being abstracted away.

    int DD()
    {
    int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);
    if (Halt_Status)
    HERE: goto HERE;
    return Halt_Status;
    }

    (a) HHH(DD) does report on the behavior that its
    input finite string specifies as measured by DD
    simulated by HHH according to the semantics of
    the C programming language.

    (b) Reporting on anything else is outside of the
    scope of Turing Machine Computable functions.
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