canada: rogers/telus cutting off 3G on aug 7

Key Dates to Know from Canadian Telecommunications Companies

July 31 2025 [pushed to Aug 7] ù Rogers nationwide 3 G sunset & Videotron/Fizz sunset in Québec/Eastern Canada.
October 31 2025 ù Bell Manitoba 3 G/HSPA sunset for personal users.
December 31 2025 ù Bell Manitoba sunset for business users.
Through 2025‑26 ù Bell re‑allocates 850 MHz Band 5 to LTE across Canada
(partial 3 G loss).
TELUS, SaskTel ù TBA but both carriers publicly signal a 12‑month notice
period and encourage upgrades now.
"

More here: https://crtc.gc.ca/eng/phone/mobile/3g.htm

..where the VoLTE vs LTE is ambiguous. :(

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Key Dates to Know from Canadian Telecommunications Companies

July 31 2025 [pushed to Aug 7] . Rogers nationwide 3 G sunset &

>Videotron/Fizz sunset in Qu.bec/Eastern Canada.
> October 31 2025 . Bell Manitoba 3 G/HSPA sunset for personal users.
> December 31 2025 . Bell Manitoba sunset for business users.
> Through 2025‑26 . Bell re‑allocates 850 MHz Band 5 to LTE
>across Canada
>(partial 3 G loss).
> TELUS, SaskTel . TBA but both carriers publicly signal a 12‑month
>notice
>period and encourage upgrades now.
>"

I wonder if this has something to do with why my account at Lucky
last year (the cheaper one at 3G instead of 4G) was changed without
any additional cost to 4G?..

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Hello Rob Mccart!

** On Saturday 02.08.25 - 18:11, you wrote to me:

Key Dates to Know from Canadian Telecommunications Companies

Bell re‑allocates 850 MHz Band 5 to LTE
across Canada
(partial 3 G loss).

I wonder if this has something to do with why my account
at Lucky last year (the cheaper one at 3G instead of 4G)
was changed without any additional cost to 4G?..

Could be. But, I went to 4G a different way with my lucky
account. At the time, I was 3G, [don't remember the GB data
quota] at $45mo. But I just happend to notice that there was a
4G setting that I was allowed to switch to, and it was only
$40, so that's what I did. I think it even offered more data.

Then, a little while later, there was a $29/mo option, for
25GB. So, I switched to that.

I use a ZTE MF279T that serves phone [thru my regular household
wiring] and data via wifi. The MF279T dates back to around
2012, but it supports the minimum VoLTE/LTE that Lucky
requires.

https://www.ztecanada.com/products/zte-wireless-home-phone-
internet-mf279t

You can sometimes find these things for under $10 at
thriftshops.



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I wonder if this has something to do with why my account
at Lucky last year (the cheaper one at 3G instead of 4G)
was changed without any additional cost to 4G?..

Could be. But, I went to 4G a different way with my lucky

>account. At the time, I was 3G, [don't remember the GB data
>quota] at $45mo. But I just happend to notice that there was a
>4G setting that I was allowed to switch to, and it was only
>$40, so that's what I did. I think it even offered more data.

Then, a little while later, there was a $29/mo option, for

>25GB. So, I switched to that.

Was that a full phone plan, unlimited everything in Canada, and
the Data? I checked out some of their better sounding plans last
year but most of the really good ones were just for new customers.

I did manage to get my unlimited in Canada 4G plan with 16 gig
of data (with loyalty bonuses and such) for $35. That was good
enough for me so I haven't even checked for new plans there since.

I use a ZTE MF279T that serves phone [thru my regular household

>wiring] and data via wifi. The MF279T dates back to around
>2012, but it supports the minimum VoLTE/LTE that Lucky
>requires.

My sister has a system like that. I still actually have a land
line here (wireless hand sets). It only costs me about $29 a
month so I've held onto it. Most people pay over $40 for that
and if mine goes up to that I'd probably drop the land line
and use my Cell for everything like most people do these days.

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On 05 Aug 2025, Rob Mccart said the following...

I did manage to get my unlimited in Canada 4G plan with 16 gig
of data (with loyalty bonuses and such) for $35. That was good
enough for me so I haven't even checked for new plans there since.

I was able to snag a Boxing Day deal with Public Mobile this past December where I get 75GB of 5G Data (5G = Up to 250Mb) that can be used anywhere in Canada, the US & Mexico along with unlimited calling to those three countries as well.

I've been pretty happy with the service since moving over. I just wish my Dad didn't live in an area of Muskoka where he gets two bars of service in the winter & one bar in the summer. A problem with any carrier it seems.

My only real "snag" with Public Mobile is when I got a new debit card in the mail with an updated expiry date. I forgot to put the new details in Public Mobile and they suspended my service (got a text message while I was in a meeting at work) until I corrected the problem. Logged in after the meeting to update the details and I was back in service, about 20 minutes or so.


Jay

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Hello Jay!

** On Tuesday 05.08.25 - 15:09, Jay Harris wrote to Rob Mccart:

I was able to snag a Boxing Day deal with Public Mobile
this past December where I get 75GB of 5G Data (5G = Up to
250Mb) that can be used anywhere in Canada, the US &
Mexico along with unlimited calling to those three
countries as well.

For how much /mo?

I've been pretty happy with the service since moving over.
I just wish my Dad didn't live in an area of Muskoka
where he gets two bars of service in the winter & one bar
in the summer. A problem with any carrier it seems.

What about installing an amplifier: eg. SureCall.

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Hello Rob!

** On Tuesday 05.08.25 - 08:38, you wrote to me:

Then, a little while later, there was a $29/mo option, for

25GB. So, I switched to that.

Was that a full phone plan, unlimited everything in
Canada, and the Data?

Yep.. the full enchilada. Actually, the $29/mo plan was only
intended for new customers, and they had accidentally included
it for existing customers to pick. BUT.. they had the "error"
in place for nearly a month! ..so, I'm not too sure if that was
a mistake. Anyway, I had a friend who I encouraged to take it!
..but he waited into the 4th week of the listing.. but by then,
the 29$/mo plan was removed for existing customers - he said
the agent claimed that the $29/mo plan was only for new
customers and that it was an error to list it for existing
customers. So, go figure.

I gladly registered 3 of my SIM devices to the $29/mo plan,
down from the $40 one!

I checked out some of their better sounding plans last
year but most of the really good ones were just for new
customers.

Yep.. Lucky still seems to disfavour existing (long-time)
customers!

I did manage to get my unlimited in Canada 4G plan with 16
gig of data (with loyalty bonuses and such) for $35. That
was good enough for me so I haven't even checked for new
plans there since.

Lucky recently dropped and USA calling from their base plans.
Now, USA calling is an "extra" minimum $10/mo.

I use a ZTE MF279T that serves phone [thru my regular
household wiring] and data via wifi. ...

My sister has a system like that. I still actually have a land
line here (wireless hand sets). It only costs me about $29 a
month so I've held onto it. Most people pay over $40 for that
and if mine goes up to that I'd probably drop the land line
and use my Cell for everything like most people do these days.

Yep.. I had a couple landlines to my house, and they were
around $25-$29 before tax too. I was surpised that the minimum
for *new* Bell landline customers was $60-$80! ..so I hung on
the landlines. But the constant reoccurrence of buzz and hum
twice a year (sping and fall - two very wet seasons) started to
drive me crazy. As soon as I learned that a landline phone can
be "ported" to cell (ie. without losing the original number) I
went for it! But now at $29/mo I get unlimited canada-wide
calling, +vmail + callforwarding, callwaiting.. etc, that the
landline did not have.
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On 05 Aug 2025, August Abolins said the following...

For how much /mo?

Ooops, I forgot to mention that. It's for $35 /mo.

I don't come anywhere close to 75GB per month, even when tethering up at my Dad's. With my Public Mobile plan, data is cut off entirely if I reach that limit. I could get a data add-on after that for $15 which gives me 1GB (yes, only one GB).

What about installing an amplifier: eg. SureCall.

My Dad can get home internet but refuses to pay for it, I'm not sure how much a SureCall costs, but he's unlikely to go for it, especially when service at his place "works".


Jay

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On 05 Aug 2025, Rob Mccart said the following...

I was able to snag a Boxing Day deal with Public Mobile this past December where I get 75GB of 5G Data (5G = Up to 250Mb) that can be used anywhere in Canada, the US & Mexico along with unlimited calling to those three countries as well.

I've been pretty happy with the service since moving over. I just wish my Dad didn't live in an area of Muskoka where he gets two bars of service in the winter & one bar in the summer. A problem with any carrier it seems.

My only real "snag" with Public Mobile is when I got a new debit card in the mail with an updated expiry date. I forgot to put the new details in Public Mobile and they suspended my service (got a text message while I was in a meeting at work) until I corrected the problem. Logged in after the meeting to update the details and I was back in service, about 20 minutes or so.

Jay

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Reading about your Dads situation when seasons change had me thinking about the Microwave radio system where I worked.
When the leaves began to appear on the trees , the microwave receiver level had to be increased,
The opposite when the trees shed their leaves in the Fall, the received signal was too high and the level had to be lowered for the data between both ends of the path to work properly.

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I did manage to get my unlimited in Canada 4G plan with 16 gig
of data (with loyalty bonuses and such) for $35. That was good
enough for me so I haven't even checked for new plans there since.

I was able to snag a Boxing Day deal with Public Mobile this past December wh

> I get 75GB of 5G Data (5G = Up to 250Mb) that can be used anywhere in Canada
>he US & Mexico along with unlimited calling to those three countries as well.

That's really good, although you didn't mention price..

My optional upgrade would give me about 80 gig of Data plus unlimited
calling to the USA added to the Canadian calling for just $5 more.

Texting through Lucky is Global which the 'full' Bell services don't
offer (Lucky is a Bell company for prepaid users). If I use up all
the data, it doesn't stop, it just slows down. They then offer to
sell you more data at that point but if you don't need the speed you
can just use it at the slower rate which allows for eMail and very
low end Surfing, but it is free and unlimited at that point.

5G where I am would be like your dad's situation in Muskoka. I'm a ways
north of Parry Sound and things work well enough for what I do but I
don't push things too much. I usually get 3 or 4 bars at 4G but on
occasion it could drop to 1.

We've always had to put up with poor communication here because the
Bell Box is probably 60 years old. When I was using dial-up on the
land line I could only get half the normal speed because the Box
was still set up for party lines. It works like a private line now,
no waiting for a neighbour to get off the phone, but the lines are
still shared or throttled back. I was quite happy when we could
finally get Data through a Cell Phone.

My only real "snag" with Public Mobile is when I got a new debit

>card in the mail with an updated expiry date. I forgot to put
>the new details in Public Mobile

Yes, I've done similar things. I get bonus data, pretty much doubling
it, because I've been with Lucky for so long and am set to auomatically
pay every month, but I've run into credit card issues when getting a
new card, although possibly that has changed to automatically update
that now for regular repeating payments. It's a long time since I had
to change that.. But every few years I change my plan at Lucky and it
appears I will lose all my long time user bonuses, but usually that
gets sorted out by the next month.

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Then, a little while later, there was a $29/mo option, for

>> 25GB. So, I switched to that.

Was that a full phone plan, unlimited everything in
Canada, and the Data?

Yep.. the full enchilada. Actually, the $29/mo plan was only

>intended for new customers, and they had accidentally included
>it for existing customers to pick.

I think I remember seeing that one listed but saw that it was
for new customers only. It seems to me I looked into new plans
offered a while after you did, after you told me about them,
and by then it wasn't offered to existing customers.

Yep.. Lucky still seems to disfavour existing (long-time)

>customers!

Yes, I feel the same way about Satellite TV service, they should
add bonus channels or lower prices to customers who stay with
them for years. If you threaten to quit they often give you a
super deal for several months or a year, but you shouldn't have
to go through that when paying $100 for a fairly basic package.

Lucky bugs me a bit because they never tell you when they bring
out better deals, you have to find them yourself and I rarely
go to their site. If things are working I just pay the bill.

Lucky recently dropped and USA calling from their base plans.

>Now, USA calling is an "extra" minimum $10/mo.

Oh, I hadn't heard that yet either. I currently have no need for
USA calling but it was a cheap bonus to upgrade from my $35 plan
to the $40 plan which gave something like 80 Gig of data plus
unlimited USA.

Yep.. I had a couple landlines to my house, and they were

>around $25-$29 before tax too. I was surpised that the minimum
>for *new* Bell landline customers was $60-$80! ..so I hung on
>the landlines. But the constant reoccurrence of buzz and hum
>twice a year (sping and fall - two very wet seasons) started to
>drive me crazy. As soon as I learned that a landline phone can
>be "ported" to cell (ie. without losing the original number) I
>went for it! But now at $29/mo I get unlimited canada-wide
>calling, +vmail + callforwarding, callwaiting.. etc, that the
>landline did not have.

Yes, it's amazing when you think back. Back in the 90's when I
had to call long distance to access a Global BBS it was always
a rush to do the exchange and get off because I was paying about
45c a minute for the call.

In the past 5 years I've had Bell in twice because of noisy
lines so it's not quite as bad as yours. Back when I was using
dial-up that was a real problem though.

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Hello Rob!

** On Thursday 07.08.25 - 07:47, you wrote to me:

Yep.. the full enchilada. Actually, the $29/mo plan was only

intended for new customers, and they had accidentally included
it for existing customers to pick.

I think I remember seeing that one listed but saw that it was
for new customers only. It seems to me I looked into new plans
offered a while after you did, after you told me about them,
and by then it wasn't offered to existing customers.

Yep.. you probably checked too late. :(

Yep.. Lucky still seems to disfavour existing (long-time)

customers!

Yes, I feel the same way about Satellite TV service, they should
add bonus channels or lower prices to customers who stay with
them for years. If you threaten to quit they often give you a
super deal for several months or a year, but you shouldn't have
to go through that when paying $100 for a fairly basic package.

Right, I don't understand this non-favoring towards existing
(long-time) customers.

Lucky bugs me a bit because they never tell you when they bring
out better deals, you have to find them yourself and I rarely
go to their site. If things are working I just pay the bill.

I find the app more responsive and easier to check and see if
there is an alternative plan available. I don't check for
other plans regularly either. But when the $29/mo plan rolled
out that was fluke timing when I decided to casually check for
plan prices in general.

Lucky recently dropped and USA calling from their base plans.

Now, USA calling is an "extra" minimum $10/mo.

Oh, I hadn't heard that yet either. I currently have no need for
USA calling but it was a cheap bonus to upgrade from my $35 plan
to the $40 plan which gave something like 80 Gig of data plus
unlimited USA.

Good to hear that they threw in the USA calling. It's not
available like that anymore. Now, it's a special add-on.

Speaking of USA-calling, I recently looked to sign up a senior
friend to NonameMobile. They advertised (and still do) a $19/
mo that includes USA-calling. So, I purchased the NonameMobile
SIM. But upon registration, the process sent me to PCMobile,
and there was *no* $19/mo plan! And.. and the lowest plan that
did include USA-calling as $29/mo! I felt very disappointed.
It's basically a bait 'n' switch - which is illegal, no?

Yes, it's amazing when you think back. Back in the 90's
when I had to call long distance to access a Global BBS it
was always a rush to do the exchange and get off because I
was paying about 45c a minute for the call.

I had a 3rd-party phone plan that offered unlimited LD minutes
for $20/mo. I polled a hub in Montreal from Ontario that way
to deliver and pick up email + echomail.

In the past 5 years I've had Bell in twice because of noisy
lines so it's not quite as bad as yours. Back when I was using
dial-up that was a real problem though.

For me, the situation simply started getting worse and worse.
I have an underground feed from a pole on the property but then
it continues a fair distance (about 50ft) under the driveway to
the house and demarcation point.
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Hello Rob!

** On Thursday 07.08.25 - 07:47, Rob Mccart wrote to JAY HARRIS:

Texting through Lucky is Global which the 'full' Bell services don't
offer (Lucky is a Bell company for prepaid users).

I recently needed to test an international text to an
australian visitor at my shop. It took a few retries wrt to
the proper numbering scheme (like dropping the 0 in the area
code!) ..but Lucky eventually delivered it! The delay was
several minutes for our messages to exchange.

If I use up all the data, it doesn't stop, it just slows
down. They then offer to sell you more data at that point
but if you don't need the speed you can just use it at the
slower rate which allows for eMail and very low end
Surfing, but it is free and unlimited at that point.

That's the "unlimited" part of Luckymobile that I like too.
Even when throttled, it's still good enough to check email or
poll for echomail.

My only real "snag" with Public Mobile is when I got a new debit

card in the mail with an updated expiry date. I forgot to put
the new details in Public Mobile

Yes, I've done similar things. I get bonus data, pretty
much doubling it, because I've been with Lucky for so long
and am set to auomatically pay every month, but I've run
into credit card issues when getting a new card, although
possibly that has changed to automatically update that now
for regular repeating payments. It's a long time since I
had to change that.. But every few years I change my plan
at Lucky and it appears I will lose all my long time user
bonuses, but usually that gets sorted out by the next
month.

I've got quite good bonus data by now with Lucky too. They have
a bonus for 6mos, and another for 12mos, plus I get the basic
auto-topup bonus and yet another "auto top-up bonus - 512MB
when registered".

The only thing that bugs me is that with the $29 plan, I now
have a surplus of $1 accumulating each month with my minimum
$30 auto-topup! I'm now up to $16 of a "balance". The only way
I can force Lucky to use the balance is if I turn off auto-top
for a month.





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Actually, the $29/mo plan was only intended for new customers

I was just on the web site checking out their plans and there's
nothing there worth changing over to. They have pretty much the
same plan as I do for $1 less for new members only, and for $4
more you can get 70 Gig of data instead of my 16 Gig, but that's
also just for new members.

Actually, I don't think they even offer my plan anymore, nothing
much under $50 that gives everything I have that isn't just for
new customers.

I find the app more responsive and easier to check and see if

>there is an alternative plan available. I don't check for
>other plans regularly either.

I try to avoid adding more software if I can manage without..
Most Apps seem pretty bloated and often renew ridiculously
often. More that's it's a pain.. I have enough data it's not
about that. I often only use about 5 of the 16 Gig I have now.

Good to hear that they threw in the USA calling. It's not

>available like that anymore. Now, it's a special add-on.

Yes, I looked for that as well tonight and, you're right, no
plans offer it as part of the basic.

Speaking of USA-calling, I recently looked to sign up a senior

>friend to NonameMobile. They advertised (and still do) a $19/
>mo that includes USA-calling. So, I purchased the NonameMobile
>SIM. But upon registration, the process sent me to PCMobile,
>and there was *no* $19/mo plan! And.. and the lowest plan that
>did include USA-calling as $29/mo! I felt very disappointed.
>It's basically a bait 'n' switch - which is illegal, no?

Yes, you see those $19 signs in the stores all the time.
It looks like a great deal - I was tempted to switch but hate
changing from something that's working well for me for a couple
of dollars a month - but I never checked into it far enough
to find out what you did.

For me, the situation simply started getting worse and worse.

>I have an underground feed from a pole on the property but then
>it continues a fair distance (about 50ft) under the driveway to
>the house and demarcation point.

I'm surprised I don't have more problems.. The phone line is above
ground and looks to be in terrible condition and I'm probably
close to 2 miles from the Bell Box. To clarify, only the line to
my house is ratty. The main line is in that heavy phone cable that
they run. Seems to me a while back when they worked on mine it had
to do with ground wires at my house. If I recall, there were two of
them and he ended up cutting one of them to fix things.

The last couple of times, over the past 5 years or so, they just
fixed it at the Box 2 miles away and then phoned me to tell me
it was done.

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Texting through Lucky is Global which the 'full' Bell services don't
offer (Lucky is a Bell company for prepaid users).

I recently needed to test an international text to an

>australian visitor at my shop. It took a few retries wrt to
>the proper numbering scheme (like dropping the 0 in the area
>code!) ..but Lucky eventually delivered it! The delay was
>several minutes for our messages to exchange.

That's good to hear it works. I don't think I've ever gotten a
text from outside of Ontario, although I'm not sure where some
of the business texts may be coming from. Still probably in
Canada usually (maybe?), but could be from other Provinces.

No, wait.. I got one from Las Vegas a couple of weeks ago when
I texted someone I didn't realize was out of the country..
It wasn't actively back and forth so I don't know if there
was any delay there or not..

If I use up all the data, it doesn't stop, it just slows
down.

That's the "unlimited" part of Luckymobile that I like too.

>Even when throttled, it's still good enough to check email or
>poll for echomail.

Yes, since I went up to 16 Gig I've never run out so far but
I did once or twice when I only had 8 Gig..

I've got quite good bonus data by now with Lucky too. They have

>a bonus for 6mos, and another for 12mos, plus I get the basic
>auto-topup bonus and yet another "auto top-up bonus - 512MB
>when registered".

Yes, technically my plan only came with 10 Gig of data but with
the added bonuses it brings it up to 16 Gig.

The only thing that bugs me is that with the $29 plan, I now

>have a surplus of $1 accumulating each month with my minimum
>$30 auto-topup! I'm now up to $16 of a "balance". The only way
>I can force Lucky to use the balance is if I turn off auto-top
>for a month.

I didn't even know there was a $30 minimum, not a problem with
my $35 plan.. They've given me the odd 'bonus' money at times so
I have a balance of $7 or so which I doubt I will ever use too..

Too bad they don't apply that against your regular bills..

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Hello Rob!

** On Saturday 09.08.25 - 09:10, you wrote to me:

I recently needed to test an international text to an

australian visitor at my shop. ... The delay was
several minutes for our messages to exchange.

That's good to hear it works. I don't think I've ever gotten a
text from outside of Ontario, although I'm not sure where some
of the business texts may be coming from. Still probably in
Canada usually (maybe?), but could be from other Provinces.

And with the ability for the sending party to spoof a number,
an international message can probably appear to be domestic.

It's a shame that the phone companies can't detect and block
spoofed numbers - or won't?

I've got quite good bonus data by now with Lucky too..

Yes, technically my plan only came with 10 Gig of data but with
the added bonuses it brings it up to 16 Gig.

The auto-topup is the biggest chunk of bonus out of my base
20GB though = 5GB. Then the 6mo and 12mo add another 2GB for
a total 27GB

The only thing that bugs me is that with the $29 plan, I now

have a surplus of $1 accumulating each month with my minimum
$30 auto-topup! ...

I didn't even know there was a $30 minimum, not a problem with
my $35 plan.. They've given me the odd 'bonus' money at times so
I have a balance of $7 or so which I doubt I will ever use too..

By minimum I mean "the lowest that will cover the cost of the
selected plan". I think there are $15 and $25 picks, but I
can't use those.

Too bad they don't apply that against your regular bills..

I can't understand why they can't "automatically" draw any
partial amount from the balance when required. Instead, I
would have to disable auto-topup first which would cancel my
5GB "auto-topup" bonus!




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Hello Rob!

** On Saturday 09.08.25 - 09:10, you wrote to me:

I was just on the web site checking out their plans and there's
nothing there worth changing over to. ...

Yep.. plan offerings seem to have remained the same for a while
now.

Actually, I don't think they even offer my plan anymore,
nothing much under $50 that gives everything I have that
isn't just for new customers.

Correct. I have a $15/mo plan (which was originally voice +
500MB data) ..but then they offered an option to switch
entirely to DATA and get double the data, which I did. Now,
the 15$/mo plan and any option to go 100% data is long gone for
new customers.

Good to hear that they threw in the USA calling. It's not

available like that anymore. Now, it's a special add-on.

Yes, I looked for that as well tonight and, you're right, no
plans offer it as part of the basic.

The usa-calling can be handy when some contacts inherit phones
from outside the country. That can be the case especially when
people travel during the summer. I have one contact that
recently moved from usa to canada. They are still operating
with T-Mobile. 1-410-845-XXXX (probably no roaming charges?)
..and that's a call to the states that I can't do.

Speaking of USA-calling, I recently looked to sign up a senior

friend to NonameMobile. They advertised (and still do) a $19/
mo that includes USA-calling. So, I purchased the NonameMobile
SIM. ...

Yes, you see those $19 signs in the stores all the time.
It looks like a great deal - I was tempted to switch but hate
changing from something that's working well for me for a couple
of dollars a month - but I never checked into it far enough
to find out what you did.

A friend of mine is encouring to me call Nonamemobile (I will
reach a PCmobile rep, btw) .. nd cry foul for false advertising
and insisting that they give me the USA-calling as advertised.

For me, the situation simply started getting worse and worse.

I have an underground feed from a pole on the property but ..

I'm surprised I don't have more problems.. The phone line is above
ground and looks to be in terrible condition and I'm probably
close to 2 miles from the Bell Box. To clarify, only the line to
my house is ratty.

It's probably getting a good chance to dry out faster than if
it were underground. I have a friend in the Muskokas who also
had a land line for a while, and Bell simply left the run from
the road to the house just laying on the ground beside the
driveway. Worked well. Rarely a problem. The landline
service is long gone based on some dispute with charges years
ago though.

The main line is in that heavy phone cable that
they run. Seems to me a while back when they worked on mine it had
to do with ground wires at my house. If I recall, there were two of
them and he ended up cutting one of them to fix things.

I think one cable like that has 4 pairs (tip-ring) to work with
as substitutes before they have to replace the whole cable.

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That's good to hear it works. I don't think I've ever gotten a
text from outside of Ontario, although I'm not sure where some
of the business texts may be coming from. Still probably in
Canada usually (maybe?), but could be from other Provinces.

And with the ability for the sending party to spoof a number,

>an international message can probably appear to be domestic.

This is true, and may not matter really if the text is not some
sort of scam.

It's a shame that the phone companies can't detect and block

>spoofed numbers - or won't?

Yes, I suspect they make a lot of money on those thousands of
texts and phone calls and don't block them unless there's a lot
of feedback..

I've got quite good bonus data by now with Lucky too..

Yes, technically my plan only came with 10 Gig of data but with
the added bonuses it brings it up to 16 Gig.

The auto-topup is the biggest chunk of bonus out of my base

>20GB though = 5GB. Then the 6mo and 12mo add another 2GB for
>a total 27GB

I'm pretty sure my auto-topup gave me 5 gig extra as well.
I get 6 and 12 month bonuses but, if I recall, those two
were only 250kb + 750kb = 1 meg..

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The usa-calling can be handy when some contacts inherit phones

>from outside the country. That can be the case especially when
>people travel during the summer. I have one contact that
>recently moved from usa to canada. They are still operating
>with T-Mobile. 1-410-845-XXXX (probably no roaming charges?)
>..and that's a call to the states that I can't do.

Yes, I was thinking it's easy enough to switch to something else
and get a new SIM card but not if they have a good reason to stay
with the plan they had. I've often worndered why phone companies
don't decide if a call is to the USA or not based on where you
are calling to/from rather than your plan, but I suppose it's to
do with cooperation between companies more than actual location.

I'm surprised I don't have more problems.. The phone line is above
ground and looks to be in terrible condition and I'm probably
close to 2 miles from the Bell Box. To clarify, only the line to
my house is ratty.

It's probably getting a good chance to dry out faster than if

>it were underground.

But mine doesn't act up while it's raining either.. B)

Seems to me a while back when they worked on mine it had
to do with ground wires at my house. If I recall, there were two of
them and he ended up cutting one of them to fix things.

I think one cable like that has 4 pairs (tip-ring) to work with

>as substitutes before they have to replace the whole cable.

It appeared that there were 2 ground lines hooked up at the same
time and for some reason one of them was causing line noise.

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Funny, just when we've been talking about the plans from Lucky,
today I got one of those 'We have an offer from a partner' texts
and they offered me a Bell Mobile account at a really good price.

(For others, Lucky is a Bell Mobile company started by them
mainly to offer pre-paid plans.)

I'd hate to change my phone plan, and probably won't, but it's
the most tempting offer I've seen in probably 3 years...

It's a 5G plan (not that my phone or location could support 5G)
and they give you 40 Gig of Data with the usual unlimited Canada
wide calling and texting PLUS USA Calling, all for $30 a month..

There's a $10 discount in there if you set up automatic Payments
and they expect you to supply your own phone of course.

I wonder if Bell locks in a plan like that forever or if they
can change the price on it later?

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Hello Rob Mccart!

** On Thursday 14.08.25 - 08:35, Rob Mccart wrote to AUGUST ABOLINS:

Funny, just when we've been talking about the plans from Lucky,
today I got one of those 'We have an offer from a partner' texts
and they offered me a Bell Mobile account at a really good price.

I get get at least two of those every month.

I'd hate to change my phone plan, and probably won't, but it's
the most tempting offer I've seen in probably 3 years...

It's a 5G plan (not that my phone or location could support 5G)
and they give you 40 Gig of Data with the usual unlimited Canada
wide calling and texting PLUS USA Calling, all for $30 a month..

The 5G is the big draw, but obviously you will only get what
the nearby towers (and our phone) can support. They just want
you to switch out of the perfectly fine self-managed phone
account that you currently enjoy. Mind you, as a Bell 5G
account holder, you may get top priority for data-service at
peak usage periods.

$30/mo that includes USA calling + 40GB sounds pretty good
indeed. I currently pay $29/mo and only max at 27GB with all
the bonuses, and there is *no* USA calling.

But Nonamemobile (masquerading as PCMobile) comes close with
their $29/mo plan that includes USA calling too.

There's a $10 discount in there if you set up automatic Payments
and they expect you to supply your own phone of course.

I wonder if Bell locks in a plan like that forever or if they
can change the price on it later?

I doubt that it would lock in like Lucky does it. Check the
small print for "we reserve the right to increase monthly
charges" ..or something like that.

BTW... your SLMR..

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* SLMR Rob * Don't drink and drive, smoke dope and fly home

...cuts the subject line short:

Subject: luckymobile offers and la
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Funny, just when we've been talking about the plans from Lucky,
today I got one of those 'We have an offer from a partner' texts
and they offered me a Bell Mobile account at a really good price.

I get get at least two of those every month.

I used to get more of them, and lately they usually were not a
fantastic deal but this one is the best I've seen.

The 5G is the big draw, but obviously you will only get what

>the nearby towers (and our phone) can support.

Yes, my phone is 6+ years old so doesn't support 5G and being
out here in the middle of nowhere, I doubt any of the towers
near here have 5G built into them, but I could be wrong. Maybe
Bell Mobility has upgraded more frequentlt than the Bell Land
Lines have.

That said, living in 'cottage country' means a lot of trees
everywhere and hilly country and 5G doesn't work very well
with any kind of obstacles in the way, plus you are often
quite a few miles from a tower and I don't think 5G works
from nearly as far from a tower as 4G does..

I wonder if Bell locks in a plan like that forever or if they
can change the price on it later?

I doubt that it would lock in like Lucky does it. Check the

>small print for "we reserve the right to increase monthly
>charges" ..or something like that.

I know that relatives of mine with Rogers Phone plans have Rogers
begging and bribing them to change their plans because they no
longer want to offer the plan they've had for years, but only
recently has anyone I know well been using Bell, other than Lucky
so I wasn't sure. I suppose I could call them and ask but probably
shouldn't waste the time if I'm not going to switch over.

A quick search online says that a lot of people have complained
that supposedly fixed Bell rates were changed on them, but it was
suggested it doesn't happen very often. That said, with a good
deal like this one it would probably be prone to price increases
once they get you sucked in..

BTW... your SLMR.. ...cuts the subject line short:

I've noticed that the odd time. I wasn't sure if it just showed
that way on my end or if it totally loses the cut part..

The joys of using 30 year old programs on your computer.. B)
(I have to run this in Dos Box..)

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Hello Rob!

** On Saturday 16.08.25 - 15:26, you wrote to me:

I used to get more of them, and lately they usually were not a
fantastic deal but this one is the best I've seen.

I got this one a couple days ago..

433222

"Lucky: Here's an exclusive offer from our friends at Bell who
have monthly plans on Canada's fastest 5G+ network. Get 40 GB
at 5G+ speeds, unlimited Canada-wide talk/text & U.S. calling
from Canada for $30/mo. with your own phone (price includes
$10/mo. Autopay credit). Call 1 866 820-5230 with code 7JFRHAM
or visit a Bell store by September 7. ( luckym.ca/msgprefs ) ( bell.ca/messagesettings )"

2025-08-14 11:58:38

I don't like the way Bell uses "credit" to make it look like
you're "saving" $omething. The $10/mo credit means that they
bill you at at $40, you get taxed on that, and then they deduct
$10. And.. they probably reserve the right to remove the
credit at any time, thus avoiding blame for "changing the plan"
when the core plan is $40. It is sick marketing strategy.

The 5G is the big draw, but obviously you will only get
what the nearby towers (and our phone) can support.

Yes, my phone is 6+ years old so doesn't support 5G and being
out here in the middle of nowhere, I doubt any of the towers
near here have 5G built into them, but I could be wrong. Maybe
Bell Mobility has upgraded more frequentlt than the Bell Land
Lines have.

My main phone is a Blackberry Q10, circa 2012! :D Works fine
on the Lucky LTE network.

..with a good deal like this one it would probably be
prone to price increases once they get you sucked in..

I would bet that they *do* increase the prices. That is Bell's
way. :(

BTW... your SLMR.. ...cuts the subject line short:

The joys of using 30 year old programs on your computer.. B)
(I have to run this in Dos Box..)

You might like to look into OpenXP. It would make your
connection operate as a point, and you benefit from having all
messages stored into a database for easy search and lookup
later. I built https://openxp.kolico.ca to help promote it.
See the screenshots there.
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I got this one a couple days ago..
"Lucky: Here's an exclusive offer from our friends at Bell who

>have monthly plans on Canada's fastest 5G+ network. Get 40 GB
>at 5G+ speeds, unlimited Canada-wide talk/text & U.S. calling
>from Canada for $30/mo. with your own phone (price includes
>$10/mo. Autopay credit). Call 1 866 820-5230 with code 7JFRHAM
>or visit a Bell store by September 7. ( luckym.ca/msgprefs ) (
>bell.ca/messagesettings )"

Yes, that's the same offer I got. I figured you would probably
get the same one..

I don't like the way Bell uses "credit" to make it look like

>you're "saving" $omething. The $10/mo credit means that they
>bill you at at $40, you get taxed on that, and then they deduct
>$10. And.. they probably reserve the right to remove the
>credit at any time, thus avoiding blame for "changing the plan"
>when the core plan is $40. It is sick marketing strategy.

I hadn't thought of that (the Credit setup). The rest of it was
what had me wondering about the whole idea..

The 5G is the big draw, but obviously you will only get

> AA>> what the nearby towers (and our phone) can support.

Yes, my phone is 6+ years old so doesn't support 5G

My main phone is a Blackberry Q10, circa 2012! :D Works fine

>on the Lucky LTE network.

Wow.. and I thought I was bad.. B)
I assume you've changed the battery a few times?
I'm still using the original battery and, although it claims
100% charge, I think it really only lasts 75% or so as long
as when it was new, but isn't bad enough to try to find a
replacemnt battery if they are still available. I saw one
on Amazon a while back for just $18, but buyers wrote back
saying the new battery didn't last as long and the old one
they were replacing because it was worn out so I didn't look
into that any further at the time.

BTW... your SLMR.. ...cuts the subject line short:

The joys of using 30 year old programs on your computer.. B)
(I have to run this in Dos Box..)

You might like to look into OpenXP. It would make your

>connection operate as a point, and you benefit from having all
>messages stored into a database for easy search and lookup
>later. I built https://openxp.kolico.ca to help promote it.
>See the screenshots there.

I briefly had a look at that. I access this board by having
QWK files eMailed to me.. Is that how you use OpenXP ?
I didn't see any reference to QWK in the PDF Manual, and
the help file won't open in Windows 7, although possibly
I can DL the software to fix that.

My main issue that brought this on was an inability to copy
and paste into SLMR with the setup I have. Is OpenXP Windows
software, as opposed to DOS and does it support that ?

Looking at the screen shots it doesn't look a whole lot
easier to deal with than SLMR otherwise..

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Hello Rob!

** On Monday 18.08.25 - 09:04, you wrote to me:

I don't like the way Bell uses "credit" to make it look like

you're "saving" $omething. The $10/mo credit means that they
bill you at at $40, you get taxed on that, and then they deduct
$10. And.. they probably reserve the right to remove the
credit at any time, thus avoiding blame for "changing the plan"
when the core plan is $40. It is sick marketing strategy.

I hadn't thought of that (the Credit setup). The rest of it was
what had me wondering about the whole idea..

I think we are better off staying with Luckymobile. They don't
do to the "credits = saving" scheme. We simply get what we
signed up for.

My main phone is a Blackberry Q10, circa 2012! :D Works fine

on the Lucky LTE network.

Wow.. and I thought I was bad.. B)
I assume you've changed the battery a few times?

Actually, I had / have 3 batteries for it. The problem was
that the previous owner damaged the USB charge port when she
"stored" the USB cable connected to the Blackberry, wrapped the
rest of the cable around the phone, and then shoved the whole
thing into her purse!

To get around that issue, it was a simple matter to get a
couple of extra batteries and a charger. I got a bit lucky at
first and got a couple of genuine batts and a genuine charger
for only $35. I simply charge the batteries externally, and
drop them in the phone when needed.

The owner didn't like managing the battery charging that way
(she wasn't closing the back cover properly!) ..and gave the
phone to me.

That was over 10 yrs ago now. Since then, one battery started
swelling - so I discontinued that one, and then another simply
seemed to cause random reboots! - so, I retired that one too. I
recently got two more genuine Blackberry batteries for $7 ea +
free shipping. They are solid performers and report 95% full
charge by the time I drop them into the phone. The previous
ones only reported around 80%.

The Q10 can operate on one battery for several days if only on
cellular (and data is off). When data is enabled, the
batteries only last 6 - 8 hrs at the most.

I'm still using the original battery and, although it claims
100% charge, I think it really only lasts 75% or so as long
as when it was new, but isn't bad enough to try to find a
replacemnt battery if they are still available. I saw one
on Amazon a while back for just $18, but buyers wrote back
saying the new battery didn't last as long and the old one
they were replacing because it was worn out so I didn't look
into that any further at the time.

This is the OEM battery that I purchased:

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/205186404313

..maybe that seller has the model for your phone.

You might like to look into OpenXP. It would make your

connection operate as a point..

I briefly had a look at that. I access this board by having
QWK files eMailed to me.. Is that how you use OpenXP ?

This message is already pretty long on the battery topic. I'll
resume the OpenXP topic in another message.


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>have monthly plans on Canada's fastest 5G+ network. Get 40 GB
>at 5G+ speeds, unlimited Canada-wide talk/text & U.S. calling
>from Canada for $30/mo. with your own phone (price includes
>$10/mo. Autopay credit). Call 1 866 820-5230 with code 7JFRHAM
>or visit a Bell store by September 7. ( luckym.ca/msgprefs ) (
>bell.ca/messagesettings )"

Yes, that's the same offer I got. I figured you would probably
get the same one..

>you're "saving" $omething. The $10/mo credit means that they
>bill you at at $40, you get taxed on that, and then they deduct
>$10. And.. they probably reserve the right to remove the
>credit at any time, thus avoiding blame for "changing the plan"
>when the core plan is $40. It is sick marketing strategy.

I hadn't thought of that (the Credit setup). The rest of it was
what had me wondering about the whole idea..

> AA>> what the nearby towers (and our phone) can support.

>on the Lucky LTE network.

Wow.. and I thought I was bad.. B)
I assume you've changed the battery a few times?
I'm still using the original battery and, although it claims
100% charge, I think it really only lasts 75% or so as long
as when it was new, but isn't bad enough to try to find a
replacemnt battery if they are still available. I saw one
on Amazon a while back for just $18, but buyers wrote back
saying the new battery didn't last as long and the old one
they were replacing because it was worn out so I didn't look
into that any further at the time.

>connection operate as a point, and you benefit from having all
>messages stored into a database for easy search and lookup
>later. I built https://openxp.kolico.ca to help promote it.
>See the screenshots there.

I briefly had a look at that. I access this board by having
QWK files eMailed to me.. Is that how you use OpenXP ?
I didn't see any reference to QWK in the PDF Manual, and
the help file won't open in Windows 7, although possibly
I can DL the software to fix that.

My main issue that brought this on was an inability to copy
and paste into SLMR with the setup I have. Is OpenXP Windows
software, as opposed to DOS and does it support that ?

Looking at the screen shots it doesn't look a whole lot
easier to deal with than SLMR otherwise..

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AT&T DSL began giving me troubles - called Service - Serviceman suggested me to cancel DSL and get Fiber internet- tried Fiber, didn't work here either - cancelled Fiber.
Some time later another person I know was using Cricket so I visited a store and began using their phone/internet service

I was surprised when I did a Speed Test and the website showed my I.P. Address was with AT&T.
At least I was paying less for phone/internet than I had been on the L/L account

I started using SLMR but switched to MultiMail DOS when I noticed long messages got cut off after IIRC 153 lines, PLUS long Taglines got cut off too when saved to the TAGLINE.MR file.

I had noticed the long length messages and long Taglines were in post by users who used MultiMail, so I d/l MultiMail DOS , tried it out and stuck with it.

I am 'thinking' when I used SLMR it had a option to Paste the Clipboard into a message.
SLMR used EDIT as a message editor and I learned that I could Open another session of EDIT , Write or Paste something from Notepad I copied from, and paste it in the second copy of EDIT, do what I wanted to modify and add to it, then highlight and Copy what I wished to Paste in the SLMR EDIT window and Save that contents so SLMR could put it in a .REP file.

I do the same with MultiMail DOS and also on occasion when needed with MultiMail Windows
I don't know if I wrote more than 153 lines so I will quit my Advertisment.
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I think we are better off staying with Luckymobile. They don't

>do to the "credits = saving" scheme. We simply get what we
>signed up for.

Yes, that's why I've hesitated to switch for the past 8+ years.
When noticably better deals start coming out they usually offer
a new plan that is close to as good and often cheaper than you
are currently paying.

I assume you've changed the battery a few times?

Actually, I had / have 3 batteries for it. The problem was

>that the previous owner damaged the USB charge port when she
>"stored" the USB cable connected to the Blackberry, wrapped the
>rest of the cable around the phone, and then shoved the whole
>thing into her purse!

To get around that issue, it was a simple matter to get a

>couple of extra batteries and a charger. I got a bit lucky at
>first and got a couple of genuine batts and a genuine charger
>for only $35. I simply charge the batteries externally, and
>drop them in the phone when needed.

I see.. I guess it's a good work-around, and the price was right
for the batteries.

The Q10 can operate on one battery for several days if only on

>cellular (and data is off). When data is enabled, the
>batteries only last 6 - 8 hrs at the most.

Supposedly my phone will sit on standby with nothing turned off
for over 200 hours on a full charge, but if the phone is in use
it will kill the battery in about 8 hours. (figures when new)
I think data usage kills the battery faster than talking on
the phone. I've never had a good opportunity to check most of
those claims but the way I use my phone I generally get 3 days,
sometimes 4 days, out of a charge. My phone is usually on for
about 12 hours a day, but only in use (data) for about 2 hours
and the rest of the time it's in Airplane mode to save battery
and to keep the phone quickly available if I need it and save
turning it on and off more than once a day. That also seems to
virtually eliminate Spam calls since my phone is so rarely able
to accept a call.

This is the OEM battery that I purchased:

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/205186404313

..maybe that seller has the model for your phone.

Hmm.. doesn't look good. I checked there plus at 3 other battery
sites and didn't find one for my phone, although it may be
listed in a different way than by the exact model number so
I'd have to check more carefully if I were seriously looking.
I know a couple of years ago I could find batteries from several
suppliers on Amazon, but not now.. (LG K9)

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>do to the "credits = saving" scheme. We simply get what we
>signed up for.

Yes, that's why I've hesitated to switch for the past 8+ years.
When noticably better deals start coming out they usually offer
a new plan that is close to as good and often cheaper than you
are currently paying.

>that the previous owner damaged the USB charge port when she
>"stored" the USB cable connected to the Blackberry, wrapped the
>rest of the cable around the phone, and then shoved the whole
>thing into her purse!

>couple of extra batteries and a charger. I got a bit lucky at
>first and got a couple of genuine batts and a genuine charger
>for only $35. I simply charge the batteries externally, and
>drop them in the phone when needed.

I see.. I guess it's a good work-around, and the price was right
for the batteries.

>cellular (and data is off). When data is enabled, the
>batteries only last 6 - 8 hrs at the most.

Supposedly my phone will sit on standby with nothing turned off
for over 200 hours on a full charge, but if the phone is in use
it will kill the battery in about 8 hours. (figures when new)
I think data usage kills the battery faster than talking on
the phone. I've never had a good opportunity to check most of
those claims but the way I use my phone I generally get 3 days,
sometimes 4 days, out of a charge. My phone is usually on for
about 12 hours a day, but only in use (data) for about 2 hours
and the rest of the time it's in Airplane mode to save battery
and to keep the phone quickly available if I need it and save
turning it on and off more than once a day. That also seems to
virtually eliminate Spam calls since my phone is so rarely able
to accept a call.

Hmm.. doesn't look good. I checked there plus at 3 other battery
sites and didn't find one for my phone, although it may be
listed in a different way than by the exact model number so
I'd have to check more carefully if I were seriously looking.
I know a couple of years ago I could find batteries from several
suppliers on Amazon, but not now.. (LG K9)

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* SLMR Rob * If space is a vacuum, who changes the bags?

The Motorola phone I have used for 20 Months I charge every night.
Some days ( a few) I had it on and saw a Battery is getting low Alert.

I mostly use Data on it. But phone calls also since I dropped the L/L service when I got this phone.

When I need to get a Battery for it my thoughts are to see if a wholesale Electronics store in my area would have a better price than the cellphone company I have service with OR even Motorola Co.

I can buy at the Electronics parts store as I have a Amateur Radio License as one of my Hobbies
Ed
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Hello Rob!

** On Wednesday 20.08.25 - 08:18, you wrote to me:

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/205186404313

..maybe that seller has the model for your phone.

Hmm.. doesn't look good. I checked there plus at 3 other
battery sites and didn't find one for my phone, although
it may be listed in a different way than by the exact
model number so I'd have to check more carefully if I were
seriously looking. I know a couple of years ago I could
find batteries from several suppliers on Amazon, but not
now.. (LG K9)

What make model do you need to match?

Maybe someone else reading this will track down a potential
source?

--
../|ug

--- OpenXP 5.0.64
* Origin: Stare into this point intently ->.<- (1:153/757.21)

My main issue that brought this on was an inability to copy

>> and paste into SLMR with the setup I have. Is OpenXP Windows
>> software, as opposed to DOS and does it support that ?

I started using SLMR but switched to MultiMail DOS when I noticed long messag

>got cut off after IIRC 153 lines, PLUS long Taglines got cut off too when sav
>to the TAGLINE.MR file.

What I find recently is an attempt to save a Tagline pops up the
blank line and I have to type it in myself. I was pretty sure it
didn't used to do that..

In another conference one fellow (OGG) found a message I'd posted
was totally messed up, lines out of order and some left off, but
my message was nothing near 153 lines, more like 50 or so..

I am 'thinking' when I used SLMR it had a option to Paste the Clipboard into

>message.
>SLMR used EDIT as a message editor and I learned that I could Open another
>session of EDIT , Write or Paste something from Notepad I copied from, and
>paste it in the second copy of EDIT, do what I wanted to modify and add to it
>then highlight and Copy what I wished to Paste in the SLMR EDIT window and Sa
>that contents so SLMR could put it in a .REP file.

I use QuickEdit with my SLMR.. I hadn't though of trying a second
copy opened to see what I can do. I know hitting Print Block didn't
really do anything.

One thing I may have to try out is I can split screen in QuickEdit
and possibly there's a way to save the extra screen outside of SLMR
(But I have my doubts)..

I think things running in DOS Box are too far removed from Windows
to transfer anything over. That said, it was mostly copy and pasting
text INTO a message that I was looking to do most often, although
the odd time I do copy something out of a message, and if it's any
length at all, with SLMR Open, I go to the SLMR Folder in Windows
and into the Work/Messages.dat file and I load that into my basic
Windows editor (Win32pad) and search for the text I wanted to copy
and then clean it up..

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* SLMR Rob * This job sucks, but I've got a lot of Karma to burn off
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Hello Rob!

** On Monday 18.08.25 - 09:04, you wrote to me:

You might like to look into OpenXP. It would make your

connection operate as a point, and you benefit from having all
messages stored into a database for easy search and lookup
later. I built https://openxp.kolico.ca to help promote it.
See the screenshots there.

I briefly had a look at that. I access this board by having
QWK files eMailed to me.. Is that how you use OpenXP ?
I didn't see any reference to QWK in the PDF Manual, and
the help file won't open in Windows 7, although possibly
I can DL the software to fix that.

OpenXp is a complete FTN/NNTP/email system. Wrt to FTN, you
simply configure it to "talk" with a sysop's system (the boss
node) like it was another Fido machine connecting to it to
exchange messages.

You can even "crash" netmail to another TLD (z:nnn/nnn) node.
It can even make file-requests. For that to work, a nodelist
is required.


You do have to be a bit familiar with what a bossnode is, and
you and that sysop must establish the correct connection
credentials and packet configuration for the echomail.

My main issue that brought this on was an inability to copy
and paste into SLMR with the setup I have. Is OpenXP Windows
software, as opposed to DOS and does it support that ?

OpenXP requires a Windows-based machine, yes. But the program
itself operates like a console app - text based - as you could
see in the screenshots.

Looking at the screen shots it doesn't look a whole lot
easier to deal with than SLMR otherwise..

I was reluctant to use OpenXP at first too! But I was coached
by a wonderful user/supporter of the program and ultimately
realized that OpenXP is truly quite feature-rich for messaging.

There might be a bit of learning curve.. so yes, it's not
necessarily "easier" at first. The internal editor uses Word-
Star editing shortcuts, for example - but don't need to know
them all - a few basic shortcuts are all you need for deleting
lines, line-wrapping, copying to and from the clipboard, etc.

But the program has an internal context-sensitive HELP (F1)
when help is needed at any menu/page.

I use OpenXP with several different bossnodes and several
different networks: Fidonet, FSXnet, Micronet, Dovenet, and
even with End-Of-The-Line BBS in NNTP mode.

I simply wasn't happy limiting myself to QWK. With QWK, you're
basically stuck reading and replying to one QWK file at a time.
With OpenXP, the messages get stored database style, and can be
accessed at any time. You can easily mark messages for reply
later, mark messages to keep, export to another file/clipboard,
and http:// links are recognized directly for easy copy/paste
into a browser.


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../|ug

--- OpenXP 5.0.64
* Origin: Age Doesn't Matter Unless You're a Cheese (1:396/45.29)

August!

Hmm.. doesn't look good. I checked there plus at 3 other
battery sites and didn't find one for my phone, although
it may be listed in a different way than by the exact
model number so I'd have to check more carefully if I were
seriously looking. I know a couple of years ago I could
find batteries from several suppliers on Amazon, but not
now.. (LG K9)

What make model do you need to match?

Maybe someone else reading this will track down a potential

>source?

Since my battery is still working fairly well there's no rush
to find a replacement and, as I mentioned, I see a lot of
reviews saying replacment batteries were terrible.

But my phone is an LG K9 and is about 7 model years old which
is why they may not have batteries for it anymore unless
someone has a bunch of old ones left over, which may also
not be a good situation.

A battery I saw which I thought was good for it a couple
of years back had a model number BL-45F1F from LG itself.

Actually, using that number, I found a couple listed on Amazon.
The cheaper ones were sold out and they didn't know if they'd
get them back, but at least one for about $38 said they had it
in stock. I don't see my phone model listed under it other than
maybe as 'other compatable LG Models', so I'll probably have
to open up my phone to see if I can find a model number there
to verify.. But, again, I'm not actively looking for one yet.

---
* SLMR Rob * Cows in orbit: the herd shot around the world
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Supposedly my phone will sit on standby with nothing turned off

>> for over 200 hours on a full charge, but if the phone is in use
>> it will kill the battery in about 8 hours. (figures when new)
>> I think data usage kills the battery faster than talking on
>> the phone. I've never had a good opportunity to check most of
>> those claims but the way I use my phone I generally get 3 days,
>> sometimes 4 days, out of a charge.

The Motorola phone I have used for 20 Months I charge every night.

>Some days ( a few) I had it on and saw a Battery is getting low Alert.

My phone is fairly basic and not too powerful, likely why they claim
such long battery life for it. It is a Quad-Core 1.3 GHz so it's
not horrible but there have been a lot of phones over the last few
years so powerful that they will kill a battey in less than 8 hours
even when not much in use.

I mostly use Data on it. But phone calls also since I dropped the L/L service

>when I got this phone.

Yes, I still have a L/L which I use for most regular phone calls.
My cell is mostly for data or when I leave the house for a length
of time to have available for emergencies.. And for the rare Long
Distance call since I don't have a LD Plan on my L/L..

When I need to get a Battery for it my thoughts are to see if a wholesale

>Electronics store in my area would have a better price than the cellphone
>company I have service with OR even Motorola Co.

Yes, it's a bit of a crap shoot. Usually you are safer buying one
from the original manufacturer, but they do usually cost more.
I worry about it since I've seen a lot of 'reviews' on places
like Amazon where people complained bitterly about how bad their
new battery is compared to the original.

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* SLMR Rob * 99 percent of lawyers give the rest a bad name
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August!

>source?

Since my battery is still working fairly well there's no rush
to find a replacement and, as I mentioned, I see a lot of
reviews saying replacment batteries were terrible.

But my phone is an LG K9 and is about 7 model years old which
is why they may not have batteries for it anymore unless
someone has a bunch of old ones left over, which may also
not be a good situation.

A battery I saw which I thought was good for it a couple
of years back had a model number BL-45F1F from LG itself.

Actually, using that number, I found a couple listed on Amazon.
The cheaper ones were sold out and they didn't know if they'd
get them back, but at least one for about $38 said they had it
in stock. I don't see my phone model listed under it other than
maybe as 'other compatable LG Models', so I'll probably have
to open up my phone to see if I can find a model number there
to verify.. But, again, I'm not actively looking for one yet.

---
* SLMR Rob * Cows in orbit: the herd shot around the world

Pardon the long quote.
When I read that Cows in orbit Tagline it brought a smile to my face.

I turned the Desktop on and searched MM Tagline file to see if I had that one entered in the file already.

One Tagline had "300 cattle in orbit, the first herd shot around the world" . Ed
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